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mircea_popescu: ahaha what. it OCCURRED TO HIM ?
mircea_popescu: "I was looking at a Java applet which demonstrates the use of evaporative cooling to form a Bose-Einstein condensate, when it occurred to me that another force entirely might operate to increase fanaticism. "
asciilifeform: and 'post on fb' to these benighted folk is same as voting in the obummer election, etc. - just 'something all civilized do' or whatnot.
mircea_popescu: i knew gmaxwell wasn't intelligent enough to come up with that stupid shit on his own.
mircea_popescu: so that what, the idiot fbheads can click the correct emotional response icon to help the evil ai segment them ?
asciilifeform: their cult has been 'evaporatively cooling' (y's own term!111) for ages.
mircea_popescu: about the dangers of evil ai ?
mircea_popescu: nono but the circumstances. he posted on fb ?
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2016 14:48:21; mircea_popescu: http://www.xenosystems.net/chaos-patch-99/ << this guy is fucking epic lol. "go is gone. Yudkowsky sounds the alarm." and links a fb posting.
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mircea_popescu: or to quote a purple prose producer of recent fame in my household, "Her silky smooth butt-crack was flawless, the only interruption along the length of it, was her pink, rosy butt-hole. Underneath her crack, were her fluffy, velvety beef curtains, just looking so, so scrumptious."
mircea_popescu: http://www.xenosystems.net/chaos-patch-99/ << this guy is fucking epic lol. "go is gone. Yudkowsky sounds the alarm." and links a fb posting. ☟︎
punkman: clearsigned patches get mangles line endings and things
mircea_popescu: just, if you want to add a patch, should be able to dump it as dpaste also. ☟︎
punkman: making deeds with all the emails?
mircea_popescu: and thinking about it on the way from bed to machine, because this idea woke me up : it seems deedbot and the ml management really should be merged. any conceivable reason patches can't be submitted via deedbot's mechanism ? not necessarily to remove the email feeding, but as an add-on ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ideally the result of a click should be a page including at least a) an enumerations of all the keys required to get there ; b) a script that will press to that particular height.
mircea_popescu: hey trinque jurov phf : would it be possible to take that very nice graph phf showed, turn it into a proper svg and have the nodes clickable ?
jurov: so far no idea how to convert that into anything saner, or ffi-interface that stuff
jurov: eulora altclient is not exactly about "reverse engineering", but that the network protocol layer uses C++ primitives with liberally mixed preprocessor and templates
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2016 09:36:51; diana_coman: well, there is no hard requirement as such to have the client written in cpp; but it's true that it's quite a huge effort to make an alternative, sane client (for one thing, I'd love a text-only client for instance)
shinohai would adore this >>> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390957 ☝︎
BingoBoingo: hand, he voted for change advanced by the Obama team’s marketing "hopium" which resulted in him running in circles backwards in socio-economic terms."
BingoBoingo: https://www.rt.com/op-edge/330710-politics-america-hate-intolerance/ >> "In these times, the ‘little guy’ cannot afford to pay rent on the trailer home, not to mention a bottle of brew. The ‘little guy’ now possesses a large amount of anger about the political system that doesn't work for him, which shouldn’t be surprising since he repeatedly voted against his own interests during the republican tenure. Or, on the other
jurov: that aside, there are completely different set of requirements, like, easy debugging. if lisp, then rather something with slime and good library bundled. ☟︎
jurov: ben_vulpes: eulora code is several levels more crooked than satoshi's, i tried to ffi python and left that for later in disgust. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: diana_coman: no hard requirement, sure, i just imagine that replacing the crystalspace client's going to be no small pile of reverse engineering. i say this knowing nothing about the cs server/client software relationship.
diana_coman: well, there is no hard requirement as such to have the client written in cpp; but it's true that it's quite a huge effort to make an alternative, sane client (for one thing, I'd love a text-only client for instance) ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2016 09:33:50; ben_vulpes: asciilifeform plans to use it to inspect memory of running bitcoinds in real time
ben_vulpes: ( http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390952 << among other things, ofc) ☝︎
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform plans to use it to inspect memory of running bitcoinds in real time ☟︎
ben_vulpes: diana_coman: i doubt you'll move the client away from cpp, but tinyscheme is a potential route to embedding scheme /in/ the existing client.
diana_coman: thanks ben_vulpes , I'll have a look; it's been ages since I last wrote anything in Scheme as such, but if there's a chance of moving the client away from cpp it's certainly worth having a look at ☟︎
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell diana_coman ^^
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell jurov and eulorans et al you might want to look into this tinyscheme thing
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell mod6 i believe i have a bug for you: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/8d9ad794-4b47-407e-9db4-a9a8cb2c70b4/
assbot: [BTC-dev] Tinyscheme Genesis, Cleanup, and Fixes, CORRECTED; -and- Shiva Pedigree Bridge. ... ( http://bit.ly/1SfJl8P )
ben_vulpes: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-January/000201.html << i swear i saw some mentione of this earlier but cannot find it now. for those playing along at home, the sig name for these patches that will please v.pl is <patchname>.vpatch.<signatory's_wot_handle>.asc
assbot: a tour of bitcoind booting to its first thread ... ( http://bit.ly/1ONsjId )
ben_vulpes: punkman: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2015/06/21_a-tour-of-bitcoind-booting-to-its-first-thread.html << in there
ben_vulpes: ah wait no that wasn't ak47.sh
ben_vulpes: punkman: you could always contribute to b,tmsr's deficit by standing the jenkins instance up yourself.
ben_vulpes: scripting the whole process in the context of "continuous integration servers" is nifty, but finding the noob caltrops is also important.
ben_vulpes: dunno man i don't actually think it's of much value. having actual humans in the actual wot build things is much more important.
punkman: I'd help rig it up if the foundation so wishes ☟︎
punkman: just the compiling part and maybe the existing unit tests would be good enough
ben_vulpes: a full sync of each bitcoind produced by each patch sent to the ml
ben_vulpes: another entry in the long list of things i've written that never made it into the truck
assbot: Hacking on the Satoshi Codebase: Some Pointers ... ( http://bit.ly/200Hrru )
ben_vulpes: a well polished bash turd
ben_vulpes: v.lisp has just been languishing on the island of poorly written and embarassing software
ben_vulpes: i shut the jenkins down because full syncs of each patch was prohibitively resource and time intensive and parallelized poorly
punkman: ben_vulpes: what happened to your buildatron?
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 18:41:43; jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1389596 << what would this be good for? you are welcome to sign + post the binaries to ml yourself
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1390093 would provide hands-off testing to see whether your new patch compiles to different archs, with different libc, etc. think jenkins ☝︎
ben_vulpes: probably any non-vpatch file'd do the trick.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell mod6 stick a random file with .html suffix in the patches dir to reproduce the stale gnupg dir big
ben_vulpes: this is probably a purposes and causes thing, huh. avoid working towards the purpose of usable software for other people, and proceed from the cause of "hell is other people's code"... ☟︎
ben_vulpes: is everyone who hacks on this thing to write and use their own vtronic cockpit controls? or is the production of /a/ vtron usable in other contexts a goal? ☟︎
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell mod6 alternatively, consider using mktemp -d
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell mod6 i got v.pl into a weird place where it didn't clean up its gnupg tempdir. perhaps consider using an "exit_gracefully" function where you're currently simply "die"-ing.
punkman: why I kept saying that I don't like release patches that touch *everything* ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 20:20:44; ascii_butugychag: the reason why i once suggested breaking up all patches into atomic patchons is that right now we have a stricter than necessary dependency flow
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-01-2016#1389213 << gotta figure out a way to minimize the re-grinding imho ☝︎
punkman: I did start with v.py, but mangled most things
assbot: [BTC-dev] Some test patches and my V implementation ... ( http://bit.ly/1NZjGPg )
ben_vulpes: well one is prefixed with the stupid unix hidden-file/dir period convention
ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, while we're ripping the rug out from under mod6, is there a good reason to continue with the inconsistent directory structure of `./.seals' and `./patches'?
punkman: on second read I hope it just means mod6 would be busy doing other things
ben_vulpes: punkman: "he's a good man, and thorough"
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 18:40:13; mod6: so -- i might need several weeks at min to test out v99995 of V
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1390090 several weeks of testing just for V? good god my dear fellow ☝︎
ben_vulpes goes digging through the gui for "never ever fucking toss my scrollback option" ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 18:38:04; mod6: is it worthwhile to rip out my graphing stuff out of V?
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1390083 < might be good as a separate utility. cuts down on v.pl dependencies too. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: but this fucking term just lost my motherfucking scrollback, because people reinventing wheels for os x have no historical context
pete_dushenski: oh hm. i dunno then. sorry
ben_vulpes: punkman: by my read 'rebase' as mircea_popescu uses it means 'dump into the v tree' ☟︎
ben_vulpes: has anyone else noticed the following when using build-bitcoind-9999*K.sh?
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2016 01:25:55; mircea_popescu: ideally, you go read the whole fucking thing, rebase and sign as your own.
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390334 what does rebase mean here? it's a term of art in version control ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 19:45:55; danielpbarron: get nubbins` or someone to make some nice artwork on it and i'll buy
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1390202 gonna need an audio track to go with that ☝︎
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assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 18:26:28; jurov: <punkman> asciilifeform: there are more "server ARM" things coming out... << you really want like, 64 shitty cores on the workstation instead of 4x x86?
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1390063 sure, if I can get low-power machine with ECC, I probably wouldn't mind the slower cores for most uses. These looked kinda neat http://www.tilera.com/products/?ezchip=585&spage=618 ☝︎
ben_vulpes: yo mod6 what does it mean in perl to do my $var = "string" . \n "otherstring" is the period a linebreak escape in perl, and the variable implicitly a concatenation of the two strings?
punkman: although I guess these Asus boards are still being made at the factory
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2016 05:13:17; mircea_popescu: incidentally, this would be a pretty interesting sideline/possible job for someone dedicated. sell pre-made, fully liberated board+chip kits. for to go intos ervers etc.
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390737 < I've been considering that for a while, but I'm not really into junkyard-wars ☝︎
punkman: btw the ASUS KCMA-D8 port was offered for $15k, wonder who paid it https://www.mail-archive.com/coreboot@coreboot.org/msg45741.html
ben_vulpes: http://www.northofreality.com/secrets/ << bit of a shame that aramcheck's not in the wot and on patreon, i like his weirdfic. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: lol, yeah these thinks are kinda transient
mircea_popescu does the leyla black with new girls to this very day.
mircea_popescu: not really her retarded totemcash/loadedcash/twistys idiotic stuff. but she did some ok outdoor work back in the day.
BingoBoingo: ^ totally
mircea_popescu: the consensus among kim kardashian, zsa zsa gabor, hussein bahamas and that guy from cheers is that a kilogram of feathers really should be lighter than a kilogram of derp entrails.
mircea_popescu: dude who the fuck are kevin spacey and jimbo wales already.
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