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gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: I mean, Germans are "generally stupid" too, but when compared to e.g. disabled people.
gabriel_laddel: outside of the communism thing, I'm unaware of them being generally stupid, failing to create and maintain civilization etc.
gabriel_laddel: can you picture a worse thing for applying to nsa ? << Is there something 'wrong' with Russians?
gabriel_laddel: There is a bunch more of this nonsense available on their website. "African Americans in Cryptologic history" in spite of there not being a single(!) black mathematician.
gabriel_laddel: "Our vision is to create a workplace environment that reflects diversity and inclusion in its broadest context and that ensures every employee has the opportunity to reach his or her full potential and is treated with respect and fairness." -- GEN Keith Alexander - Director NSA/Chief CSS
gabriel_laddel: I flipped through an ACM mag that was lying around the house and see an employment advertisement for the NSA on the back - "The NSA is an equal opportunity employer", and it names some specializations they're interested in, including "quantum computing" and "discrete mathematics". I visit the websitef, because lolwtf and find this:
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: the point I originally made is that they're not funding people to convert .pdfs etc. becuase thats not the kind of people they are. I shouldn't have sent 19:04, it adds nothing to the conversation.
gabriel_laddel: 19:01 << you don't have to /say/ that. "We think this is a serious overreach of federal power, and ..."
gabriel_laddel: Anyways, this is what I have in mind when I say "new format" - and no, I don't think the 'adults' would be happy about a program that converts arbitary PDFs into this sort of program, as evidenced by no bezzle barons funding Aaron Swartz's legal defense.
gabriel_laddel: all the data used to perform the computations should have a "warning - unlinked <location of data, who is responsible for it>" unless a human resolved it to the correct source and bundled it along with the paper
gabriel_laddel: ammatically accessible "new content" should be anything I wish - 3D etc.
gabriel_laddel: I should have better defined what I mean by "useful format": all the citations must be clickable, and when you click on them, they open up the linked paper, or tell you where it is located (i.e., behind a paywall). I don't want plaintext output, but rather a better format with the exact same formatting as the original pdf that allows me to click, drag-and-drop and add new content. The authors etc should all be progr
gabriel_laddel: 14:16:34 BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: the 'adults' are not going to be happy about you writing a program that converts all books in libgen.info + all papers you can get of school networks into a useful format via a combination of OCR and heuristic hackery << Plain OCR is normally sufficient for books without advanced mathematics as long as you are willing to liberate the pages from the spine. Test it with a sheetfed
gabriel_laddel: why, all of the sudden are they a immediate threat to a hypothetical?
gabriel_laddel: Perhaps I'm missing something, but isn't much of the discussion in this channel based on the assumption that usg is going to fall apart?
gabriel_laddel: ^ ascii, I've mentioned this idea to 3 people - all reject it on grounds of "it can't be that easy, my school had all sorts people working on these problems and they never thought of it"
gabriel_laddel: He presented someone else's program as his own. They didn't check, being fuckwits, but eventually found out.
gabriel_laddel: the 'adults' are not going to be happy about you writing a program that converts all books in libgen.info + all papers you can get of school networks into a useful format via a combination of OCR and heuristic hackery
gabriel_laddel: it seems to me the model is to find smart, angry people, fund them and then when things go to shit, stand behind them and keep them out of trouble.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: they don't want them to e.g., make a napster
gabriel_laddel: well, in truth the Thiel fellowship doesn't even give it all away at once
gabriel_laddel: 2 years to play with Mathematics sounds wonderfully useful to me.
gabriel_laddel: the neat people in the Thiel fellowship are the mathematics kids, who are sort of the odd ones out
gabriel_laddel: "If we show up at the border with That We're going straight to prison!"
gabriel_laddel: I, with the devil's own smile, invite them to take pictures
gabriel_laddel: but yes, there are a lot of indians, which I didn't previously notice
gabriel_laddel: "let me tell you a story about a mouse I caught in a field..."
gabriel_laddel: monkey @ lisp term ?! << outside of that, have you ever seen any program written as "fluidly"? Which comes back to the original discussion of "what is intelligence"
gabriel_laddel: if iq tests worked we'd have usable software. << see symbolics inc
gabriel_laddel: people try codifying common sense to make it more palatable - doesn't work
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: so wait, would visiting e.g., Schwartz qualify for "stepping into the sewer"
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: this is, as far as I can tell, roughly the equivalent of reading your blog.