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BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Just got back from getting my hair cut by
the fossil who owns
the joint. Probably my best haircut ever. Intense experience as
the fellow with a resting parkisons
tremor made copious use of
the straight razor.
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, imho,
the old guys getting a steak and
their kids and grandkids getting
thrown out into
the street is minimal justice in south america. in fact, i'd much prefer
they were handled by albigensian crusade 2, kicked ~out of
town~ not merely in
the street ; and literally nude.
mp_en_viaje: how
they're gonna pay for it is anyone's guess ;
though maybe i get
there in
time. IF
THE LOGS ARENT
TOO
THICK!!!
mp_en_viaje: so now
there's a
table of sluts in
the restaurant donning naught but
their robes.
mp_en_viaje: aand in other participatory democracy news, i just spent an hour or so in
the jacuzzi / saunas etcetera. upon leaving, i confiscated
the girls' bathing suits
BingoBoingo: What dreams do
the 75+ set have
that a loan enables rather
than destroys? Probably a couple extra kilos of Asado de
tira before
they pass and
the bank
takes
the house out from under
the kids and grandkids who've not lived anywhere else.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje:
The saddest part is
that "un Prestamo de
tus sueños" is exactly what
they are marketing it as.
dorion_road: mp_en_viaje, diana_coman
thanks, apologies for miwording.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-12 12:33:53 BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: In
the very lulzy leaving a mess on
the way out files:
The "Banco Republica" has lines around
their main branch composed of local old retired and pensioned derps applying for "un Prestamo de
tus sueños"
mp_en_viaje: call it "how
to contribute effectually,
the guide" or something, "qualification"'s not
the word
there.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-12 09:36:53 dorion_road: linking in extensive examples of established republican practices ; point out how
there is no central code repository and version control system or even website, etc.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: In
the very lulzy leaving a mess on
the way out files:
The "Banco Republica" has lines around
their main branch composed of local old retired and pensioned derps applying for "un Prestamo de
tus sueños"
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-12 09:36:02 dorion_road:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-12#1955110 << I'm
thinking
to keep it simple along
the lines of : 1) register a key, 2) install a V, 3) maintain a blog where you : a) maintain a code shelf , b) publlish your work plans , c) publish articles for context on your vpatches, 4) maintain an irc connection
to converse with people (point out '6 months' reading
the log is recommended for
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-12 04:02:12 mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo_, in other lulz, if 1)
trump gets impeached and
then 2)
trump gets elected does he
then 3) get
to run again, because impeached
term dun count ? :D
BingoBoingo:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-12#1955099 << Well
the 22nd amendment
to
the Consitution does give a 10 year
total limit
to presidenting, but... Insane common law jurisdiction where everything is made up as
they go while further burdened by
the weight of all English history
to boot. Not out of
the realm of possibility impeachment could be
taken as nullifying his first
term.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-12 05:49:54 mp_en_viaje: contrariwise, items 2 and 3 on
that same list are quite needed ; 2 needn't be even usable as such, its importance is in getting
that
tree going, even if not one line of a genesis survives it in
the final press nevertheless
the
tree wouldn't have existed without ; 3 is definitely
the sort of key element we've been sorely neglecting
to date.
dorion_road: mp_en_viaje
thanks for
the don't get in people way likbez.
dorion_road: mp_en_viaje does
that ^ make sense
to spell out in an article ?
dorion_road: linking in extensive examples of established republican practices ; point out how
there is no central code repository and version control system or even website, etc.
dorion_road: do what interests you, what you
think is important, do it well,
talk with people.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-12 05:20:58 mp_en_viaje: it stops being cute when you start driving yourself nuts with it. how in god's own reddish hells are you supposed
to say, aforehand, what
the qualifications for contributing are ? in
the next
two days, you're gonna produce
that ? how ?
dorion_road:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-12#1955110 << I'm
thinking
to keep it simple along
the lines of : 1) register a key, 2) install a V, 3) maintain a blog where you : a) maintain a code shelf , b) publlish your work plans , c) publish articles for context on your vpatches, 4) maintain an irc connection
to converse with people (point out '6 months' reading
the log is recommended for
mp_en_viaje: now go forth an' stop burying
the ledes, ye hear.
mp_en_viaje: contrariwise, items 2 and 3 on
that same list are quite needed ; 2 needn't be even usable as such, its importance is in getting
that
tree going, even if not one line of a genesis survives it in
the final press nevertheless
the
tree wouldn't have existed without ; 3 is definitely
the sort of key element we've been sorely neglecting
to date.
mp_en_viaje: so, good news, you don't have
to answer whether aliens may join or not, forget about it.
mp_en_viaje: various
things are relegated
to a large warehouse of "nfi, we'll figure it out later" because
they appear unmistakably humongous, and we're not so well satisfied
they actually have
to be done. so
they wait --
this is what
time does, if nothing else : it'll always resolve
the "did it have
to be done ?" quandary.
mp_en_viaje: there's some humongo
tasks around here because nobody gives so much of a shit how big it is, if it has
to be done. but IF. if. if it HAS
TO BE done,
then yes. not otherwise,
the converse doesn't work, just because something's a humongous pile of comparable humongocity doesn't make it a republican
task --
the criteria's
the has
to be done.
mp_en_viaje: the first imperative of management is "don't get in people's way". like
the doctor's "firstly, don't harm", exactly. fail everything else but hold
that up, you'll be a fine manager ; fuck
that up nothing else you do can bring you above water.
mp_en_viaje: nobody even fucking knows how an os is made in
the first place for
the simple self-obvious reason nobody fucking made one yet. it's not farming. it's not anything like farming. i don't even know what
the fuck it's like, maybe we live
to figure it out, but so far we just have some good classes of what it can't be like is all.
mp_en_viaje: maybe
the dude asks you a question.
then you answer it.
that's what you do. you don't go chasing about
the street with pre-answers
to questions nobody's asked yet ; if
the guy asks whether he's qualified he probably isn't, which is not
the end of
the world, you're not qualified either. what
the fuck qualification exam did i pass, per accidens & pro
tempore's not a collegiate degree.
this isn't homogenochina we're
trying
to reproduce here,
mp_en_viaje: do you
tell him
to get a job ? do less drugs ? find some real shoes ? sure, why not. does
that amount
to "oh and also you're not qualified
to help" ? why
the fuck should you care enough
to get yourself in people's way ? let
them be, it's
their life. he'll write it or not, defend it or not, it'll get accepted or not, used or not, which part of
this is your problem ?
mp_en_viaje: if a beach bum walks into an internet cafe in indochina, ramen bowl in one hand and a found copy of eat, pray, love in
the other, makes himself a key on keybase and offers
to write a better garbage collector for you, you... what do you do ?
mp_en_viaje: if, and look what a large if
that is, you ever find yourself in
the situation where
there's
two entities
trying
to solve
the same problem and you absolutely must pick one,
then you pick one.
THEN. not fucking now, so far you're stuck with a
trillion cubic miles of sky and like half a delta wing,
they won't even ~meet~ unless you specifically direct
them at each other.
mp_en_viaje: let it be, you don't care. you needn't care. you should not care. carelessness is a legitimate management
technique, because wovon [man nicht sprechen kann] is a legitimate philosophical stance.
mp_en_viaje: does being an alien disqualify one from contributing ? "but mp, what are
the odds an alien shows up" dude, how
the fuck do i know ? how
the fuck do you know ? why
take
the wrong sort of position on
uncappable outcome ? are we protecting something here ? what is it ?
mp_en_viaje: it stops being cute when you start driving yourself nuts with it. how in god's own reddish hells are you supposed
to say, aforehand, what
the qualifications for contributing are ? in
the next
two days, you're gonna produce
that ? how ?
mp_en_viaje: but it's massively overwhelming, you don't know what
the fuck it even is or is supposed
to be in plenty of angles ; so you yelp an'
try
to find some footing, and some purchase. which is cute.
mp_en_viaje: apparently it's "your dedication's endearing" day in
the republic. anyways, my man mode d : i get it, you're a serious and dedicated fellow, and you mean
to do right by
this sudden and immense pile fallen one day upon your head. good!
mp_en_viaje: e what
to link here ; if only I were
to somehow know months ago when I decided not
to
that months later in a discussion of women I'd have liked
to have
the reference. Yet I couldn't have known such a
thing. Neither can you. Ever. And so instead of spending
those
twenty mintues
there I spent five writing
this note and fifteen fishing
through
the internets
trying
to identify which fucking bad film it was in
the first place."
mp_en_viaje: "I never bothered
to review Love Liza because it's a shitty movie ; nevertheless shitty as it was it'd have provided an anchor for
today's reference.
The reason I write down
this note is precisely
to underscore as
thickly as humanly possible
this most important point :
that you are in no position
to judge what's not worth doing. Because
the future is uncertain. It would have been worth doing, all 20 minutes it'd have
taken me, so as
to hav
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo_, in other lulz, if 1)
trump gets impeached and
then 2)
trump gets elected does he
then 3) get
to run again, because impeached
term dun count ? :D
mp_en_viaje: in general
though,
that's
the overarching point, gotta separate usage and confidence as a required ingredient of maturation.
mp_en_viaje: this is
the whole substance of
that whole "old age and
treachery"
thing :
that idealism (or platonism, or spherical chickenism, or w/e you call it) dun work irl. even if it appears
to work in
the mind.
mp_en_viaje: use it like it's
the enemy, if you will, because it is ;
this doesn't reduce
to "don't use it".
mp_en_viaje: so how about instead of
trying
to shoehorn sql into supporting your idealism, you just "<a href=
http://trilema.com/2016/poor-women/>bang python like a cheap whore</a>. use it, but ~don't expect~ it knows what
to do with ifs ; give it
tasks, but short and narrow, measurable and ~do not confide in it~. let it write against apache, not import its flask, let her do
the dishes not invite her mother over
to stay.
mp_en_viaje: this ~purely imaginary~ purity is
the very problem ; maintaining it while ditching python's specifically keeping
the devil while burning
the
totem. ~the very expectation~
that
the world works a certain way, "cleanly" in
this manner,
the hallucination
that it's always okay
to find fleas in cottage cheese and knots in
the reeds is why all
this is problematic
to begin with.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-11 13:08:26 mp_en_viaje: i dunno i support any particular action on
the foregoing basis. but i also ain't gonna pass it in silence no mo.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-11 23:24:41 lobbes: In other plans, I'm aiming
to
take a more
treacherous approach
to coding
the
auto-bidding for auctionbot. I figure I can handle
the majority sans-python, and instead simply leverage
the postgres db it sits on (i.e. listen for insert into bid
table, execute some postgres functions, spit results into outbox
table, done). I'll mak
mp_en_viaje: this is a naive point of view, of
the same nature as "all politicians are dubious so i don't vote" or "i've yet
to meet a pure hearted maiden
thus i have no
truck with girls".
mp_en_viaje: i understand
the ambiguity's innerving, and i understand
the nude dedication behind "well, if it's bad, don't use it
then".
lobbes: In other plans, I'm aiming
to
take a more
treacherous approach
to coding
the
auto-bidding for auctionbot. I figure I can handle
the majority sans-python, and instead simply leverage
the postgres db it sits on (i.e. listen for insert into bid
table, execute some postgres functions, spit results into outbox
table, done). I'll make an article of what I come
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-11 22:09:54 dorion_road: With
tmsr os, how much work
to support
the
implicit clients isn't clear yet. I'm also not 100% clear on spyked, bvt and lobbes situation apart from gathering
they've been consistently productive while working salary mines.
BingoBoingo: To my knowledge
the label "cow" only differs in its greater specifity of labeled
thing
mp_en_viaje: nfi. it seems
to me "yazidi" is practically how you say "bovine local population of no particular utility"
BingoBoingo: I'm guessing 'Portland Yazidis' will be a sorta budget substitute for
the real
thing?
BingoBoingo: Events seem
to be unfolding
that way. Persia got bold again
mp_en_viaje: i guess im putting some bitcoin aside for when
they start selling portland "yazidi" girls in a few years ?
BingoBoingo: In very Uruguay
things, an Asado related incident has lead
to a relatively large wildfire in Rocha which is leading
to closure of some of
the few roads up
that way. What a way
to start
tourist season.
dorion_road: Right now we're delivering
the service primarily face
to face, which
mircea_popescu advised against. More
thinking about
the pivot needs
to be done, but with more sales,
there will be more opportunity
to make an offer
to people
that's competitive with salary mines.
dorion_road: In
the short
term, jfw and I are going
to integrate it into our service, which, at
this point, aims at guiding
the
right people in
learning how
to lower
their risk in
dorion_road: I defintely have
to
think more about
the
long term monetization, but I see big potential.
dorion_road: With
tmsr os, how much work
to support
the
implicit clients isn't clear yet. I'm also not 100% clear on spyked, bvt and lobbes situation apart from gathering
they've been consistently productive while working salary mines.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-11 04:37:25
trinque: so dorion_road, is
the idea
that
there's a
tmsr stack upon which what, systems are built for
these folks holding piles of database money?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-11 04:14:42
trinque: I've been in
that business. It's hard, wish
them well.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-11 04:14:22 mp_en_viaje: it's not much as it stands, but i do believe
they've
targetted exceptionally well, and might perhaps be able
to execute also. maybe even surive
to iterate. in any case i intend
to help
them, within reason.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-10 18:39:12
trinque: dorion_road: ftr I have no problem with
trying out your
thing and offering critique either. I do have a problem with armies
that don't eat, so I'd love
to hear how you plan
to sustain
the effort necessary
to maintain an OS.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-11 03:56:53
trinque: but gentoo's a piece of shit. if it's not apparent why, I'll definitely have
to say why.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-11 03:53:10
trinque: what is it you
think I'm signaling
to diana_coman's bunch?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-11 03:44:44 mp_en_viaje: nor can i eschew signalling
this point
to dorion for
the merry gang, specifically because he has little fucking idea about
the underlying
truths in
the
thick "engineering" sauce.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-10 18:29:38
trinque: mp_en_viaje: I put it
to you
that without money inflow... what republic? I'd
thought we'd arrived in
the same place on
that one, at
the
time.
ossabot: Logged on 2017-12-02 17:16:42 mircea_popescu: but otherwise -- everything's sough. you got
tits ? make money. you can code ? make money. you can draw ? make money. you "got relations" / can pr/whatever
the fuck you got ? MAKE MONEY!
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-10 22:27:34
trinque: I'm going
to write something on why eating a product of socialists is stupid, and if we must eat shit, eating
the least shit is
the move.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-10 22:34:51
trinque: dorion_road: ftr I have no problem with
trying out your
thing and offering critique either. I do have a problem with armies
that don't eat, so I'd love
to hear how you plan
to sustain
the effort necessary
to maintain an OS.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-10 22:39:24
trinque: you will see
this article sooner
than
the 15th,
too.
mp_en_viaje: i dunno, maybe
the peroration i have in mind happened orally in
the harem or who knows.
mp_en_viaje: well,
these are all great and each more or less good enough, so...
mp_en_viaje: yueah but
this was a belabouredly explicit explanation of how all serious
threats are positive feedback loops. iirc was in a medical context
BingoBoingo: Not explicitly but Aunt Dumb does get beat by
the sex good, condoms cheat Aunt dumb outta babies from sex, more sex happens loop
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, um, it's not even mentioned
there ?!