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thestringpuller: yes. but eventually knowledge to build nuke will vanish. just like sending monkeys to moon.
thestringpuller: ascii_butugychag: re: nuke designer. I remember reading a wired article saying that practical nuclear engineering (bombs) is a dying field since no one can technically test nuclear detonations. Most of the students who were learning from manhattan project-age engineers were learning via word of mouth.
ascii_butugychag: sorta how i'm being paid, through a pyramid of derpatronic intermediaries, 'not to tmsr' for 8h/d
ascii_butugychag: usg is doing a decent job of paying most qualified folks ~not~ to crypto.
ascii_butugychag: sorta funny how us is rather like an inverse su in this respect
ascii_butugychag: so stuck with the meat circus.
ascii_butugychag: or the one who came by my old office disguised as 'friendly neighbour, retired blahblahblah' ☟︎
ascii_butugychag: or the derp who called me on the disconnected phone? ☟︎
ascii_butugychag: a wild cryptographer is as tolerable to usg as a wild nuke designer.
mircea_popescu: and, this is the important part, ~AND~ those dumbasses would be hanged by their foreskins.
ascii_butugychag: and for all i know - that is where he lives now!11
mircea_popescu: it is insulting. if i was djb and lived in su i would fucking phone stalin over this stupidity.
ascii_butugychag: he was being pushed into the corral.
mircea_popescu: if the snake was as competent as is required for a living animal, it would certainly not harry djb with inept shit of that level.
mircea_popescu: and yet there it is.
mircea_popescu: now show me zhitomirsky's drunk driven tickets ?
mircea_popescu: consider just a tiny item like : https://cr.yp.to/export/dishonesty.html
mircea_popescu: note that the tsar's snake similarly was seen as the shit skin only, and look where that took the tsar!
ascii_butugychag: but realize, there is ~also~ the snake
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu is seeing the skin of the snake
mircea_popescu: what's that pay ?
ascii_butugychag: for a degreed mathematician, or even talented amateur, the life choices are generally a) web dev b) usg. ☟︎
ascii_butugychag: it is one of the few fields where usg pays Moar and provides better working conditions than actual industry
ascii_butugychag: but cryptographers, on the other hand...
ascii_butugychag: it has to compete for those with what remains of private industry
ascii_butugychag: the thing about airplanes is that usg does not have so many captive welders, metallurgists, etc.
mircea_popescu: what's more "well specified, mechanical" than A FUCKING AIRPLANE
mircea_popescu: even then - prefers to buy coke and whores instead.
mircea_popescu: usg can build anything it wants, and it'll never want to build anything useful. much better, more interesting shiny baubles scattered all over the field.
mircea_popescu: the true curse of idiots is that they think they know what they want. and they do get it, most usually.
mircea_popescu: except no idea where to point the spears.
mircea_popescu: nope. they can only build items that look enough like the image of a plane as hashed through their culture.
mircea_popescu: understand this "can" correctly : can cargo cult tribe build any item out of straw and mud that they wish ?
ascii_butugychag happens to know that this is, unfortunately, not so
mircea_popescu: what time limit. we're fucked until it's found.
ascii_butugychag: also i will add that preferring 'weird' operations, vs. simple arithmetic, costs us more than it costs the enemy.
PeterL: did you set a time limit for it?
ascii_butugychag: i'd add 'probabilistic' to the requirements, but this might be just aesthetic
mircea_popescu: incidentally, are you happy with the call for papers as is ?
mircea_popescu: this is also true.
ascii_butugychag: sorta why i wanted to start with something we ~do~ know...
mircea_popescu: there's a sad dearth of research in this field. we don't even klnow which of pi*e and pi+e are transcendental. etc.
mircea_popescu: not that i know how ;/
mircea_popescu: hopefully that relation holds in "well defined" alt-spaces.
mircea_popescu: except the only paired transcendentals i know of are pi and e.
mircea_popescu: something like this.
ascii_butugychag: 'fuck you, my public key is m * the next mersenne prime' ☟︎
mircea_popescu: which is why i'd like to see much more computationally intensive cipher and encryption.
mircea_popescu: if it costs enough to speak, these problems are solved by the very speech
ascii_butugychag: alternatively you put'em in the blockchain
mircea_popescu: this means he needs to talk to you before talking to you.
mircea_popescu: yeah but this is messier.
ascii_butugychag: and the idea is, i think, old
ascii_butugychag: i did this in one application.
ascii_butugychag: sender would have to crack the turd.
ascii_butugychag: btw you could achieve this right now, by handing out (disposable) crypted turds containing public key (also single-use) that you would then insist on receiving on.
mircea_popescu: give people a perfectly valid reason to only take crypto : "i don't want to be spammed"
mircea_popescu: make the postage stamp as part of the encryption, as it were.
mircea_popescu: matter of cost, not of time.
mircea_popescu: if someone has to expend 1 petahash every time they send me encrypted anything, that's grand.
mircea_popescu: it only hinders the people who want to talk about it, is all.
mircea_popescu: contrary to piously fraudulent consensus in the field, expensiveness is a quality of cryptographic items.
mircea_popescu: the main advantage, perhaps counterin tuitively, to the PE? scheme is that it's so veryt computationally expensive.
ascii_butugychag: e.g., travelling salesman
ascii_butugychag: this is sort of why i'd like to take the opposite approach, rather than take a 'this looks confusing!111' item like transcendental digits, take a proven-nphard problem and 'cryptoify' it somehow
mircea_popescu: kinda why we go deep into the shag.
ascii_butugychag: the danger of using transcendentals for crypto is that it opens you up to clever analogue (!) attacks
ascii_butugychag just read mircea_popescu's thing
mircea_popescu: maxint in there is quite literally, maxint. currently pi is computed up to about 2*10^13 or so digits. signed 64 bit max is ~10^19
mircea_popescu: the ? is obviously reserved for the name of whoever produces the damned º.
mircea_popescu: notably, this scheme does not necessarily produce the correct plaintext every time. CRC will probably have to be included in the message in any case ; massaging of convenient º/º' pairs will be required to get error rates statistically under an acceptable threshold.
mircea_popescu: the properties which º' must exhibit may make the entire scheme unfeasible, but i can't seem to prove º' may not exist.
mircea_popescu: the properties which º must obviously exhibit make it only partly similar to plain multiplication - perhaps group theory may produce a good candidate, i have not currently a very clear picture of what this item should actually be, but seems like some sort of modulo-multiplicator.
mircea_popescu: to decipher you calculate the maxint+key to maxint+key+block digits of e with a plouffe-like algo (not here included) which you º' with the ciphered message yielding the original plaintext.
mircea_popescu: you need a proper "destructive multiplication" item, which i'll discuss later, noted here º. you proceed to calculate the maxint+key to maxint+key+block digits of pi via repeated applications of the original plouffe algo, and you º the result with the plaintext message which yields the ciphered message.
mircea_popescu: So in re the tmsr call for papers. the Plouffe-Euler-? block cipher would work as follows :
phf: (like he has this running ubuntu on macbook air guide http://cr.yp.to/hardware/air.html)
assbot: cr.yp.to: 2014.06.02: The Saber cluster ... ( http://bit.ly/20cnD4C )
phf: mircea_popescu: i've been using his guide in the early 2000s, but then i think he caved and switched to laptops, because he stopped updating it. he has a recent build recommendation https://blog.cr.yp.to/20140602-saber.html from his "saber cluster"
mircea_popescu: also open to ammendations / fixes if anyone sees anything amiss.
mod6: A great idea, overall. Thanks for posting that and putting up the reward.
mircea_popescu: https://cr.yp.to/hardware/advice.html << turns out djb has a standard workstation.
mod6: nice i threw it out there in the twat space
mircea_popescu: from https://cr.yp.to/bib/online.html : "instead of signing a copyright transfer agreement. If you ever encounter a publisher that doesn't accept this, let me know, and I'll be happy to blacklist that publisher here. I'm now blacklisting IEEE and ACM."
mircea_popescu: this is not altogether a bad theory.
BingoBoingo starting to believe the materialism if anything might have made Marxism safer than what Idealism wrought in the Harvard educated.
PeterL: I used to really be into following sports and politics, at some point I realized my fervor had equally little effect on either, I am trying to cut back and ignore them
PeterL: "see how that carrot tastes? elect me again or those EVIL guys are gonna take it away"
PeterL: they get token bit here and there
ascii_butugychag: the hilarious part about american politicircus is that none of the groups pandered-to actually ever ~get~ so much as a bite of the carrot
BingoBoingo: Alright the one thing worth taking away from the "Phenomenology of Spirit" is that USSA is evil in a more profound way than USSR was most of the time.
ascii_butugychag: 'liberal' in usa means 'panders to these 17 types of losers who exist in loose coalition'
ascii_butugychag: it is far more african than that
PeterL: I think liberal used to mean something different, but the term has been coopted by idiots
PeterL: make the rich pay! gimme gimme gimme"
mircea_popescu: what's liberal mean in the us anymore, retarded ? communist ?
PeterL: to liberal to fit in with the democrats
BingoBoingo: Clitler is probably going to have to try again in 2020
PeterL: my wife is pretty sure Sanders is going to save us , I don't get it
ascii_butugychag: he was put on the stage for same reason as, in last cycle, mike gravel