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mircea_popescu: such as i dunno wtf these schmucks did before becoming "scientists", but i imagine revolutionizing keyboards and inventing better paper clips
mircea_popescu: well, the science is setled alright : there is no science in "climate blabla, back to more productive uses.
ben_vulpes: christ that's entertaining
BingoBoingo: d" face the inevitable and logical consequence of that stance."
BingoBoingo: Just deserts from the mines "With an ax rather than a scalpel, Australia's federal science agency last week chopped off its climate research arm in a decision that has stunned scientists and left employees dispirited. Why? Because the science is settled, there is no need for more basic research, the government says. No doubt many will experience a case of schadenfreude as they see those who have long claimed "the science is settle
mircea_popescu: tug&plug, it's a legitimate thing.
ben_vulpes: grounded in the river elbe
ben_vulpes: "baby i need a tug!"
ben_vulpes: i am now renaming my cock to CSCL Indian Ocean ☟︎
asciilifeform: and thought stuck cock
ben_vulpes: mega container ship grounded in the elbe for FIVE DAYS
mircea_popescu: my foreskin generally retracts on the first pass, just how wide IS this woman ?
mircea_popescu: wait this hk boat / elbe thing was a sexual innuendo item ?
ben_vulpes: you name the sucks?
mircea_popescu: name the thugs ?
ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, it took 12 (!) tugs to get the HK boat ungrounded from the elbe
BingoBoingo: Also to chase away wild Obeasts who happen to glomp in
mircea_popescu: penis is for penetration, that's good enough for me!
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i chastise, yes, but i don't believe in destroying the woman. canes, not clubs.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: re: codebabez you should totally come visit sometime
asciilifeform: without db locks patch at the least
asciilifeform: and in fact it is wrong, because guess what, that turd WON'T SYNC
asciilifeform: surely that was not the last release ?
jurov: the last trb release is a WRONG thing nao?
asciilifeform: borrowing a page from mircea_popescu's 'this is WRONG now find a non-WRONG thing to do' book.
jurov: "nor is it clear that it is a useful thing to do" but lxr must show it!!1 lmao.
asciilifeform: but this - no
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-02-2016#1400478 << i will admit that i am not certain i have ever met in the flesh, other than chetty, a woman who wrote software ☝︎
phf: extended version usually deployed by short and fat female cops in american tv shows. "sir, SIR, sir. sir!"
BingoBoingo: But seriously these things are useful for beating down most things. Better made for that than some hammers I've seen
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: There's a full range of them
asciilifeform: i thought we were thinking specifically of the 6 'd'
BingoBoingo: Also thinner C cell model for people concerned about weapon retention
BingoBoingo: <phf> i thought police carries those oversized maglites for the purpose of using them as batons in a pinch << yes. For this 4, 5, or 6 D cell models
asciilifeform: and wtf, i don't read with these, would happily buy even red led
phf: i thought police carries those oversized maglites for the purpose of using them as batons in a pinch
asciilifeform: 1/5th the brightness of the diode
asciilifeform: i have both kinds, from same maker, the krypton incandescent one is a club now
BingoBoingo: But flashlight are the only thing US does, so now cottage industry around making them into other things
mircea_popescu: it took me a while to buy one that wasn't uv-led powered.
asciilifeform: 'tis what they had at the shop.
asciilifeform: now that i think about it, i even own one of those cast iron monsters
mircea_popescu: they can't make a plane or maintain the roads, but by god have you seen how superior their flashlights are over the orcs' ?
mircea_popescu: actually to risk going on a limb : the us is an ex-industrial pwoerhouse, made pseudo-rich by uninspired finalcial arrangements. the degeneracy that necessarily came from that picked a tiny topic and is making the glory of past days play out all over it. that topic is flashlights.
mircea_popescu: it boggles the mind, what the fuck people are doing with flashlights over there these days.
mircea_popescu: because there's a humongo market of ... flashlights, of all things, in the us. and trying to invent value for it so the assburger'd males keep buying them
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: "storage cups" that go into tubular aluminum flashlight body... Come with replacement end cap featuring drilled hole.
asciilifeform: srsly, trees as 1liners, l0l
asciilifeform: holy shit is mircea_popescu's example hard to read
mircea_popescu: the task is : to compute a) and b) for N2`, N3`` and all N4s.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: wtf are those
asciilifeform: but did not make its way into the prototype
BingoBoingo: In other news... Do these "storage cups" look a lot like baffles to anyone else? https://archive.is/rn2nx
asciilifeform: i will also note that all of this was part of my original concept for vtron
mircea_popescu: i could hash out a more complex example if it may help, since this NOTATIONAL FORMALISM (see that alf!!!) actually solves the problem of saying graphs. something i wasn't going to do before not because you can't display them, but because im too lazy to draw em.
asciilifeform: it lets folks actually press a release, for example, without requiring 'papal infallibility' for the release signers; and, likewise importantly, it lets developer press 'i want a thing will all of my shit but not the discarded erroneous crud'
mircea_popescu: this is the counterposed thing. in this case, i would wish for N6 to know that a) abc and b) c ; whereas for N4 that a) abc and b) a OR b and finally for N2 that a) abc and b) a Or B or C
mircea_popescu: what i said then phf was, i must be able to tell a) which people in total contributed and b) on what sets of people does the present press depend.
phf: it's not, i need to reread relevant threads, and this one
mircea_popescu: this gets to the core of what i was asking of phf to do with those lists.
mircea_popescu: like that it works.
asciilifeform: what's the problem ?
mircea_popescu: of what ? no, it's not a tie, is c running off with the count
asciilifeform: tie - is to be broken by the operator. always.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: trivial case of tie
mircea_popescu: alt node in same position in tree
mircea_popescu: this may turn out to be a fucking problem.
mircea_popescu: in this situation, "longest chain signed by ab) is 4, longest chain signed by c is 6. what is longest chain signed by abc ? 6 too ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform consider this problem for a moment if you will : have people a, b and c ; have nodes as follows : G(a,b,c) -> N1 (a, b, c) -> N2 (a, b, c) -> N3 (a, b) / N3' (c) -> N4 (a,b) / N4' (c) -> N5 (c) -> N6 (c).
asciilifeform: if not barfs, then broken vtron.
assbot: Logged on 09-02-2016 15:16:19; ben_vulpes: press a patch without hashes in the headers
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-02-2016#1400452 << this is invalid format and ought to barf ☝︎
mircea_popescu: aite, i see. really should drop the latest it's confucksing
asciilifeform: let's use the term.
mircea_popescu: do you mean longest then ?
BingoBoingo: V like everything else only exists in the present
asciilifeform: it isn't about time!
mircea_popescu: there is no time sorting whatever.
asciilifeform: i would say that it is meaningful to 'press latest known unorphaned chain signed by x'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform note that longest per se is meaningless.
asciilifeform: nor is it clear that it is a useful thing to do
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there is 'longest chain' but none of the current vtrons know how to find it
mircea_popescu: he doesn't know what he's talking about!!1
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jurov: alf said there is!!!!11
jurov: and to press the "last pressable" I do what command?
mircea_popescu: but this is not really a cogent consideration. as far as levels are concerned, this "current" one would be just qas much l1 as all the other direct-G descendants.
asciilifeform: current being the last pressable, strictly
mircea_popescu: how would it be among "Current" leaves. we don't have a notion of time.
jurov: If they can come to unanimous agreement, which one is the longest, praps.
assbot: Logged on 09-02-2016 15:43:16; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-02-2016#1400348 << this goes to the ancient turd, still has, e.g., irc in it!!111111
jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-02-2016#1400592 foundation is welcome to link to any chosen 'v' head present there. ☝︎
asciilifeform: this is not permissible in a strict tree, definitionally
asciilifeform: e.g., i can submit a patch which depends only on genesis, and it will be among the current leaves
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: specifically in that it does not have uniform levels
mircea_popescu: i also confess to mentally having an imaginary pre-G as a master node for all the various G's such as shiva's bitcoins v's etc.
asciilifeform: but note, this is not strictly speaking a tree
mircea_popescu: even if trees are necessarily dag's rite ?
asciilifeform: only if the tree were specially drawn this way
mircea_popescu confesses to still thinking of v tron in terms of tree not exactly dag.