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asciilifeform: !#s from:asciilifeform tcp
asciilifeform: ( and there's megatonnes of shit iceberg beneath the tip, look some time at an actual implementation... )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the braindamage of tcp, iirc, is elaborated in buncha old threads
asciilifeform: ( i.e. without the plaintext control messages, where any thirdparty derp can close your connection, infer contents via burst lengths, etc ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: i picture the end product as something like tcp but without the retardations.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i have a suspicion that saturation bursts trigger anti-ddos hackolade in some places
asciilifeform: and about on par with asciilifeform's experience
asciilifeform: interesting
asciilifeform: ( upstack -- one of the wins from synchronous variant is that you never saturate the link )
asciilifeform: i suspect this'll be very frag-sensitive
asciilifeform: ( right now you get away with occasional frag, but possibly strictly because preceded/followed by unfragged, etc )
asciilifeform: 1 will more clearly show effect of frag, imho
asciilifeform: diana_coman: afaik, the remaining fundamental variants are 1) single-sized volleys, for various sizes 2) this, and the earlier variant, at max possible saturation
asciilifeform: sure
asciilifeform: there is not afaik a carrier pigeon link in use somewhere.
asciilifeform: afaik if it doesn't show up in a sec or so, it's gone
asciilifeform: diana_coman: can you set it display the ones that ~didn't~ make it
asciilifeform looks at the data from earlier
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'd like to see a test where there is only 1 size, across various sizes, if possible ☟︎
asciilifeform: it makes for a slower than elsewise , but rearrangement-insensitive link
asciilifeform: possibly it it obvious algo. but wanted to put for the l0gz.
asciilifeform: ( naturally this is only applicable to synchronous, i.e. A->B, B->A, A->B, .... , comms )
asciilifeform: btw i'd like to share an old asciilifeform algo; not sure if directly applicable to diana_coman's proggy, but may come in handy: for synchronous packetron. to determine when to resend a packet, you wait time T; T is initially a pessimistic value, e.g. 800 msec; but once you start getting responses, you set it at all times to the ~minimal~ response delay observed thus far. and if reply wait exceeds T, you resend & restart the clock.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: lemme know btw if you'd like to send me the sender and do a packet survival run to/from asciilifeformistan ☟︎
asciilifeform bbl
asciilifeform: aite, i'ma not distract then
asciilifeform: but yes
asciilifeform: possibly 508
asciilifeform: diana_coman: have you tried in reverse path ?
asciilifeform: i strongly suspect that heavy (i.e. always-fragged) packets are not ultimately a bw win
asciilifeform: esp if all fragged ( e.g. test with size of 2048 strictly )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i suspect that the % of surviving fragged packets will drop as you saturate the link ( with e.g. GB thrown at line speed )
asciilifeform: ( lulzily i got sensors, uarts, etc on 10m nics all the while... on modern day switchen this worx without interfering )
asciilifeform: could go on, but imho oughta suffice, gb nic 'from my cold dead hands'(tm)
asciilifeform: of course also got boxen pumping MB+/s to net, day an' night, and i ~like~ that they dun saturate the lan while so doing
asciilifeform: ( is this actually not so in anybody's household ? )
asciilifeform: my boxen speak 9000x moar to each other , bitwise, than to net
asciilifeform: ( and backups, and isos, etc etc )
asciilifeform: narrowly missed answring http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-25#1853975 : i move 100GB+ barrels of vm liquishit over gb nics ~weekly, on lan, would suck on 100m. ☝︎
asciilifeform will bbl, over something that aint a speakandspell lol
asciilifeform: l reactor ops )
asciilifeform: ( like all other critica
asciilifeform: trinque: key swaps oughta be handcranked and reasonably rare.
asciilifeform: trinque: imho oughta stay manual
asciilifeform: i'ma bbl, then, meat queue overfloweth .
asciilifeform: damn.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude has quit (Remote host closed the connection) << loox like he ran out of gas for the modem...
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: laugh if you like , asciilifeform's 1st thought was 'bundesnachrichtendienst ?!!'
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: old gentoo
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-10-10#1295983 ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( i dun think it took me > half hr to bake pgp key )
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: you have roughly half hr, cuz i gotta get up soon
asciilifeform: trinque: errybody went to kindergarten, once.
asciilifeform: folx manage to stow all sortsa rubbish, for decades
asciilifeform: it is not so difficult to not lose a coupla kB
asciilifeform: ( don't lose the key )
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: make key, you will be able to swap it later by asking politely of trinque ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( and sometimes answer. )
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: once rated, you'll be able to speak on own time, and other folx will read in log when they wake.
asciilifeform: ^ will def. want to read, i suspect.
asciilifeform: !#s tor
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: mircea_popescu , and he historically built 'cheap and angry' . quite likely will migrate off fleanode in not long.
asciilifeform: drop the pub in p.bvulpes.com and !!register url
asciilifeform: i also lazy
asciilifeform: good; i'ma rate you
asciilifeform: i recommend to reg key, won't repeat again.
asciilifeform: that's you right nao
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: y'know how in old arabian tales, fella gets audience with sultan ? gets little bit to speak his bit
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: no, means that you cannot buy it presently.
asciilifeform: socket sits either the current one from western inc. or period '80s unit.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: i've an unbuilt 'btc wallet on 6502' item, for instance.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2014-11-15#922644 << see also !111 ☝︎
asciilifeform: bahahaha
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: and they'll be optically visible, through window, no less.
asciilifeform: i want my 4000 transistor cpu and i'ma get it.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: just as well.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: verily, i tried with own hands to source a m68k for modern manufacture, and failed utterly
asciilifeform: really there is no fucking reason there needs to be more than 8 cpu instructions.
asciilifeform: wartime standard.
asciilifeform: ( as a cheap iron from chinesium, currently -- king )
asciilifeform: i fucking hate arm, as an arch
asciilifeform: in fact, quite likely i'ma bake it as soon as mircea_popescu blows the trumpet and decrees that it's time.
asciilifeform: from 0
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: i've been looking into ( and if you read logs, will know this... ) baking a mips machine.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu rarely voices n00bs any moar these days.
asciilifeform: do it with pdp11 if you like, but highly recommend to do it asap.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: you'll really want to reg with deedbot if yer interested in further doings.
asciilifeform: !!up verisimilitude
asciilifeform: 'not for people'
asciilifeform: i ( and iirc mircea_popescu also once ) tried to buy 'elbrus' also, 0dice
asciilifeform: over the years i tried to locate one, somewhere, for some money, 0 dice
asciilifeform: extinct, sadly, item, that thing
asciilifeform: !#s rms laptop
asciilifeform: ^
asciilifeform: !#s loongson
asciilifeform: for roughly same purpose ( once in blue moon can pull it out and pretend the year is 1988 )
asciilifeform: i got one of'em decadent western hp48 also, yes
asciilifeform: so, you won't be running emacs on it, no.
asciilifeform: the time to have the mk61 was when you were 5, i suspect