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punkman: asciilifeform: what do you mean 'knowing' that you 'spent.'
punkman: took me a sec to realize that was in F
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asciilifeform: and enough with the machine 'knowing' that you 'spent.'
asciilifeform: enough with the 'intelligence'.
punkman: a wallet spec might be nice to have
mircea_popescu: tx fee for the spam blocks.
asciilifeform: how's that
mircea_popescu: looking at the block spam atm, "money" is ~5000 satoshi
asciilifeform: not only this,
asciilifeform: plus there is fee
asciilifeform: it is only 'to yourself' if your test is successful !
mircea_popescu: sending coins to yourself is called mixing not spending.
asciilifeform: so how to test?.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i contemplated 'fixing wallet' ages ago, but doing so was complicated by the fact that i REALLY, ~REALLY~ do not like spending coin.
asciilifeform: i would malleate own tx to low-s atm but i don't have a handy proggy written for this
mircea_popescu: well he can't spend it again till he convinces his wallet that tx should go away
asciilifeform: but i'd be curious to see what mircea_popescu has in mind
kakobrekla: he is speaking like he will lose the btc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i've already unsheathed the knives
mircea_popescu: speaking of which asciilifeform ... good time to make a wallet fixer now :)
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla he'll have to reconstruct the wallet
asciilifeform: 1) it was a good chunk of my net worth 2) it was a surrender to shitgnomery which i still don't properly understand
mircea_popescu: there's really better things to chew the scenery about.
asciilifeform: send perfectly valid tx, now i have to figure out a way to double-spend own tx, failed to make a bet in time, and may very well end up in limbo
asciilifeform: i have my wrath bit set, re: the high-S thing
shinohai: I should throw up a donation page like that saying I'll mine classic blocks - 35 BTC!!!
mircea_popescu: but you get the 25+change back.
kakobrekla: 30 bt per day according to node counter donations
mircea_popescu: the plural invalidates the point, derps. what fucking dictatorS ? how's that shit supposed to work ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's a very simple calculation really : 1 block out of 24 * 60 / 10 = 1/144 of total hash
kakobrekla: i dont but according to ze enemy; Current cost per TH: 0.0039 BTC per day
asciilifeform: does anyone have a link handy to where in the logz mircea_popescu calculated what it would cost to run a guaranteed-block-in-x-days mine ?
asciilifeform: sorry about the noise, but tradition dictates that this oughta be done 'in forum.'
asciilifeform: i think that's all for now.
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mircea_popescu: kakobrekla> i have been running mine for 2 years are are as good as new as far as i can tell << good bearings, less wear, last longer.
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asciilifeform: !rate mod6 5 met alive; expert gardener of therealbitcoin.org; implementer of the first fully-functional battlefield-grade vtron.
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assbot: Successfully updated the rating for kakobrekla from 4 to 5 with note: not only expert infrastructural welder, but unearthed a 15dB pc fan somehow.
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asciilifeform: but even so, mega-kudos to kakobrekla for the discovery.
asciilifeform: and i still have a few mechanical drives, that have not yet been replaced with flash
asciilifeform: i can sorta hear the inductors tho
kakobrekla: cant turn them off.
kakobrekla: anyway, you can only take it so far. at some point you will hear birds from outside and so on.
kakobrekla: its not impossible to make inverter go fanless
asciilifeform: whatever the fuck in; clean sinusoid out.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: this one can't be run fanless, it is the kind that has the inverter going at ~all times~
kakobrekla: i also had the problem of ups being the loudest, but it fanless, i think its the transformer that is noisy
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: i finally broke down and did the whole new-case, filters, etc. thing.
kakobrekla: i have been running mine for 2 years are are as good as new as far as i can tell
asciilifeform: there's gotta be a catch though. do they died after 6 mo. ? or what.
kakobrekla: they are arent they.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell kakobrekla 'silent wings' fan are very very spiffy. and now the loudest thing in the room, giant doubleconverter ups, is deafening in comparison. gonna have to re-fan it now...
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mod6: ... there's this remote island where you can mine stuff like shiny rocks and rotten fruit.
mod6: i'll give it a few days and then will roll up a full bundle. i've got an automated test for this case now too.
asciilifeform back in business with 2x the cpu&ram
mod6: just for the 'cheers' & everything else :]
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shinohai: Just a few days ago he equated Bitcoin to web browsers - fitting since they are the IE of BTC
mircea_popescu: "i am in bitcoin, i just don't know anything about it. like those people from new york that dunno what the chrysler building is!"
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mircea_popescu: <mod6> ben_vulpes: it basically shouldn't ever happen, but it could and since; no means yes, yes means anal. << lol io like how he thinks.
mircea_popescu: this is possibly the weirdest thing i ever saw.
mircea_popescu: so in "weird of the crowd" news, eulora player just bought an auctioned package from s.mg for 140, split it up, and barely managed to recoup HALF the cost.
mod6: then in a few days i'll consider publishing the bundle again. thanks for your support/patience/help, etc.
mod6: ok, so instead what I'll do here is add an automated test to check for this, so i don't regress later. and then most likely will put out a 3rd beta patch for people to test/review.
shinohai: That's good since that $400 box only produces pennies a week.
jurov: apparently opening and closing of the tab still requires macrotransactions
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> why do people^H^H^H^H^H^Hbarbarians insist on this moronic 2-column publishing style << Journals demand it for printing
mod6: so one of my cpu threads goes to 100% and memory usage starts to climb.
mod6: ive got problems at the shit-shoveling factory that are giving me headaches :/
mod6: yeah, in this regard, my V basically does know what to look for in a given vpatch file -- the thing it wasn't doing is checking that the hashes match eachother -- which can cause a downstream infinate loop when traversing the map.
ben_vulpes: don't take me too seriously this morning mod6 i got dressed and went to the office before realizing it was still sunday
ben_vulpes: the structure, not the contents. 'fork bomb' was a joke, mod6.
mod6: how would it know ahead of time, short of having a hash for the vpatch itself?
mod6: what do you mean by "v impl. knows what vpatches are to look like"
mod6: well, no forking going on. im guessing it'll die when it runs out of ram, but haven't checked that yet.
mod6: to test it, i had to hand-diddle one of the vpatches. easy enough to do. if someone is doing something very strange or bad or whatever on their system it could lead to an infinate loop.
ben_vulpes: ideally a v impl. knows what vpatches are to look like and barfs on anything that doesn't look like that instead of trying to catch all of the edge cases
ben_vulpes: i am reminded of the "enumerating badness" thread
mod6: the fix for this amounts to adding one condition statement when building the map of hashes.
ben_vulpes: i would like to see the vdiff that craps that down
mod6: this happens if the antecedent hash matches the descendant hash.
mod6: but found an edge case that causes an infinte loop.
mod6: so was thinking about pushing out that v99995 today.