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dub: anyway, as far a business decision goes its madness to even contemplate
dub: there would be no official client, there isnt really now, theres a reference client
smickles: "official" sounds meaningless in context of a dev-split
BTC-Mining: That would be a problem if they push it as the official client... who controls bitcoin.org?
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining we get a sort-of fork.
BTC-Mining: If that "51%+" has incompatible rules... then we get a split no?
mircea_popescu: if miner group A uses hashing algo a and miner group B uses hashing algo b
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining that's a different 51% attack you're thinking of.
dub: BTC-Mining: there is functionally nothing to be gained from actually using a 51%
mircea_popescu: it's a liability.
BTC-Mining: The risk lessens of this with each confirmation as the computational advantage the attacker needs grows to a mathematically improbable level and six confirmations is widely accepted as being the amount where the transaction is secure from this attack.
BTC-Mining: A miner or cartel who controls more than fifty percent of the hashing capacity of the bitcoin mining network has the potential to fraudulently double-spend recent transactions. With majority of hashing power the attacker has the technical ability to mine blocks which do not include a previous spend transactions from the miner but instead include a double spend of the coin. With majority
dub: riskign it all by mining a few 10k btc is not smart
dub: point is threat is enough, asic costs a lot to develop
mircea_popescu: it's not even a mining cabal, it's a stupidity cabal.
mircea_popescu: i hope the asic-gpu thing comes to a civil war.
mircea_popescu: in a sense the current dev + gpu miner pools are creating that problem as it is
dub: surefire way to do that is create a 51% problem
dub: its a captive market
mircea_popescu: it's a done deal.
mircea_popescu: smickles this is actually a very interesting problem. the companies have no real incentive to ship
smickles: the first person with the first asic on that first diff period will make a lot of btc, relatively
smickles: can't you calc it with a linnear gain in diff?
Diablo-D3: It was a manufactured war.
Diablo-D3: WW2 was a result of social planning.
Diablo-D3: all its going to do is put a lot of people in prison.
dub: this, everyone is equal idea and can succeed if they want to is quite obviously a sick joke
mircea_popescu: a choice emerges.
mircea_popescu: the weak are weak for a perfectly good reason
Diablo-D3: when they threaten people for not joining and also act as the bosses of the workers they protect, theres a problem
dub: they are a counter point to offset the coproration with a competing corporation
Diablo-D3: it collapsed a few of the smaller rich people empires and forced the rest to comply
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: it was a gamble, but they worked
mircea_popescu: dun dun dun. i think this may actually be a net gain for him
dub: isnt america a union?
Diablo-D3: its not just a union
Diablo-D3: <Romney> Fuck. You know, fuck is such a wonderful word. It describes, pain, pleasure, surprise, and what I do to the American people each and every day.
Lucidize: I have to apologise to you for being rude one day, a while back
mircea_popescu: a yea he got banned for unclear reasons
Lucidize: Don't worry, I'm not a guy lol :P
Lucidize: wowser, you're a cute guy.
Lucidize: I'm gonna have a read
mircea_popescu: as a nice bonus, the person doing that isn't usually black.
Diablo-D3: seriously, they're like, on a higher plane of existence, man
mircea_popescu: dub it can be grown inside but its a pain
kakobrekla: dub it wont do. its a very special plant.
dub: google says its a restaurant
mircea_popescu: this is a big deal on reddit
kakobrekla: the one we discussed a few minutes ago on pm
jurov: so, B.MPCD.A exists no more now?
mircea_popescu: <assbot> [MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] [PAID] 350000 @ 0.00002 = 7 BTC
kakobrekla: 00:38.04 ( @assbot ) [MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] [PAID] 350000 @ 0.00002 = 7 BTC
jurov: for mpcd.a
mircea_popescu: B.MPCD.A paid a total dividend of 350.00000000 BTC to 350`000 outstanding shares
assbot: [MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] [PAID] 350000 @ 0.0001 = 35 BTC
dub: wat is a MH/s worth today
assbot: [MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] [PAID] 350000 @ 0.00002 = 7 BTC
mircea_popescu: i think they had a ssh-ish thing at some point
mircea_popescu: "Yes, 2.0 was pretty much the beginning of all this, though I'd prefer the perspective they had when it was implemented as a command-line client."
EskimoBob: try that help. It send you to a completely useless page
gribble: Error: "bc.stats" is not a valid command.
knotwork: just set up a strategy that knows not to actually submit any orders from any of your other servers to the stock market, just submit them to your archives
knotwork: its more for doing things like getting live quote streams from Yahoo Finance and placing orders on the NYSE or a Forex place etc
knotwork: probably to get it to talk to OT or to MPEx we would need to make a filter that translates FIX protocol orders/commands into OT or MPEx protocol
knotwork: I only a few minutes ago got it to talk at all, to my web browser
knotwork: it looks like you can do anything but its using FIX protocol to communicate so maybe when you place and order you are not supposed to you will just get a rejected back
knotwork: Marketcetera Tradebase is a web-based reporting application for all of your trading activity.
smickles: thestringpuller: there is occasionally a gap b/t when mircea's bot cancels its orders and replaces them at a new price
thestringpuller: y did a bunch just get bought?
PsychoticBoy: maybe its a good idea to add mpex to the hidden wiki
PsychoticBoy: sure thing is, this whole GLBSE, DMC, usagi and you name them I know more and you do too saga is kinda funny in a way
dub: in 2015 eveyone will be panicing about worthless 1st gen asics because BFL will have a nanotube asic out in november
mircea_popescu: making yotahashes a reality
mircea_popescu: im looking forward to 2015 or so, when asics have become well established, there's a few classic chip designs
thestringpuller: PscyhoticBoy how many coins does your mining rig get you a day?
dub: send me a finger
PsychoticBoy: I give him a handshake PERSONALLY and he gives btc, deal
PsychoticBoy: I live 200 km from him, maybe a visit?
PsychoticBoy: then nefario is a bigger fraud then estimated
kakobrekla: https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/397309_548804025146742_258329982_n.jpg
mircea_popescu: hm, that's a point. mk, lemme set something up.
smickles: mircea_popescu: you don't have a laptop that has nothing valuable on it?
mircea_popescu: smickles it's a joke, prolly insider
smickles: juzus fuck. How many banking websites am I going to encounter which want me to enter a password on a page like 'http://dumbshits-r-us.bank.com'
jurov: magnification help a bit, but only a bit
mircea_popescu: well a forum isn't really the venue for depth is it ?
dub: mircea_popescu: sure there is some wit to a few of his posts but he likes himself too much and really doesnt have a lot of depth
dub: gage I get a distinct paranoid schizophrenic hillbilly signal from
dub: loupgaroux is just a cronic masturbator, contradicts himself constantly
mircea_popescu: pigeons iirc threw a fit too. why do you all hate gage!
mircea_popescu: there's a wall ?
mircea_popescu: yeah, it was a list of people.
mircea_popescu: some claimed but some didn't. a well :p
mircea_popescu: i made some offer to forum ppls to get 10k share blocks a while back
mircea_popescu: a well. ballz are overrated :D
pigeons: chronos had a son
thestringpuller: my aunt was a mean girl
thestringpuller: no one likes a mean girl :$
mircea_popescu: i need a soup nazi
mircea_popescu: iirc when a girl pointed that site to me i got lost in there for 30 hours