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asciilifeform: btw idea belongs to chelomey
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: How do you judge the cost of making a Deepwater port and fulfilling Teller's dream at the same time? You clease the coastal hipster holes.
pete_dushenski: sort of a lot of expense for the sake of aesthetics
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: How do you know the hipster holes won't be cleansed for aesthetics?
ben_vulpes: best of best is to live in incuntsequential hipster holes
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Where's your qntra submission on this subject?
mircea_popescu: suffice it to be said that if you're looking for a place to live in case of open hostilities with china (not that there's any likelyhood of that), texas way better than chicago or new york.
mircea_popescu: none of this is, of course, ever to be reported in the pravda.
mircea_popescu: the current "we will pay lizardhitler cronies" guy is going to try and renegotiate that thing to add a clause that the base is "not to be used militarily". as if it has any other fucking purpose than ready bombardment of us/canada.
ben_vulpes: well that was a miserable idea
mircea_popescu: in other vaguely lulzy news : previous (socialist) argentine government "signed" a treaty with china, allowing them a fancy new "satellite" base in the far south, right next to the pole.
assbot: GitHub - pasky/speedread: A simple terminal-based open source Spritz-alike (per-word RSVP aligned on optimal reading points) ... ( http://bit.ly/1LqtKf4 )
assbot: Logged on 15-02-2016 23:39:11; asciilifeform: nasa is great to learn from if you have 1) infinite budget 2) tolerance for occasional catastrophe
kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-02-2016#1406651 < i am not sure 2. is avoidable in the current state of affairs ☝︎
BingoBoingo: 30 irv's prolly fine. 30 mega kerosene openings at the bottom seems like invitation to problem.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The 30 or so rockets in first stage was likely ill advised.
asciilifeform: (or rather, prototypes thereof)
asciilifeform: recall also that these were primarily 'super' mirv rockets.
BingoBoingo: Even if that way is CIA mole
BingoBoingo: They exploded for good reason. Entropy tends to find a way.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: phun phakt: the su 'manned moon' prototype rockets exploded - all 4 of'em - for no particularly good reason.
BingoBoingo: Old NASA has Apollo 1 as its sole mega catastrophe (Apollo 13 counts instead as elegant save). New NASA lost two space shuttles.
asciilifeform: nasa is great to learn from if you have 1) infinite budget 2) tolerance for occasional catastrophe ☟︎
punkman: more from "my code went to space"-experts http://www.verticalsysadmin.com/making_robust_software/
BingoBoingo: Not too uncommon. At Carbondale one graduate class I took on (John) Dewey was filled with Chinese students sent by the Party to get Pragmatized.
asciilifeform: hence the adult audience visible in the foreground
asciilifeform: interestingly, these were filmed when some american megacorp (hp?) sent (1980s) its employees to get sicp'd
BingoBoingo: hard to do with www
asciilifeform: http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.001/abelson-sussman-lectures << them
asciilifeform: (yes there was a film series)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I saw, but I like to scribble.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'll take a picture once I get it sorted. Some things like SICP have yet to be acquired.
asciilifeform: punkman: more holes than pixels.
assbot: Logged on 15-02-2016 19:58:02; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-02-2016#1405966 << it's actually the only way i see to make an actual honest display shield. mm thick plate box, micron-range holes drilled in one face.
BingoBoingo rearranging booksshelves, because seems like most practical way to make reading list
jurov: now you have to send me one share :)
jurov: BingoBoingo: The Billion Dollar blimp which WAS the victim
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and i suppose the problem of ages is whether cunt is mp-complete or merely mp-hard ?
mircea_popescu: glasses! let's see if this makes alf say she has an expression! maybe he only digs intellectual chix
mircea_popescu: and in more of the same news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/cffa17602be167edc880c4d98319ab81/tumblr_mm6dffZQnM1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: nice work keeping it together kako :)
assbot: Logged on 15-02-2016 19:04:00; kakobrekla: thinking anyone at google is even aware of bitbet is delusional.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-02-2016#1406275 << this is not actually true. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: only root can read that anyway.
assbot: Logged on 15-02-2016 18:37:44; jurov: and then it failed cuz must read /proc/net/tcp ?!
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-02-2016#1406252 <<< ahjahaha what in the everloving ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-02-2016 18:36:26; asciilifeform: nn works until it 'doesn't want to', at which point - doesn't.
assbot: Quote by Joseph Heller: “Actually there were many officers' clubs that Y...” ... ( http://bit.ly/1okAoii )
adlai just babysits the watering hole and the folks find their way in... it's right across from the stock exchange, people literally walk in and ask "didn't bitcoin die last year"
asciilifeform: adlai: where do you find these folks.
adlai: dude's illusory relevance to bitcoin was looking for some in order to polish the thing off; which is ironic, because it was quite polished already! unclear where to insert coin.
adlai: mircea_popescu: only reason i ignore my unqualification to comment on this topic is that some dude showed up at the local bitcoin wateringhole to demo his luser-friendly stockfish interpreter
asciilifeform: skinner did not have nn, he instead taught pigeon to fly a rocket bomb. and did not ask the pigion how he did it, also.
assbot: Logged on 15-02-2016 18:33:11; *: adlai would not be surprised if there isn't [yet] a way to translate alphago's "learning" to human go terms
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-02-2016#1406244 <<< actually i'm persuaded ai's learning, if actually present, is in principle not translatable to "human terms" ie some readily fih heuristic. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-02-2016 18:22:55; asciilifeform: mats: as i understand, 'alphago' is a corporate operation, with many folks involved, all over the pay scale.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-02-2016#1406230 << yes, but the higher up on the scale, the higher the reasonableness of confidence either way while also closer to mats' hose. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-02-2016 18:15:15; asciilifeform: (did this ever actually work...?)
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller notreally. it's just a dude that expects computers to be metaphysical objects not made of discrete parts.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: "In Internet slang, a luser (sometimes expanded to local user; also luzer or luzzer) is a painfully annoying, stupid, or irritating computer user."
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> nice epitaph for heroin addict. << Note the shared self destructiveness of the illnesses. To be a "user" is to plot a fatal course.
asciilifeform: technical term is - 'luser'
mircea_popescu: "he was a user, he never cared, which is the point."
BingoBoingo: shinohai: ty fxd
thestringpuller: "They shouldn't have to care. They're users. The entire point of being a user is not having to care."
thestringpuller: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/45xz0s/hi_im_a_user/ << "Consumers have come to expect" in the wild.
mircea_popescu is tempted to bet himself now.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the lulzy part is that my misfired 5b played a part in this
mircea_popescu: ahaha check that out kakobrekla bitbet is nao famous.
asciilifeform grasps where mircea_popescu is going with this
mircea_popescu: i went because when we were all together it was pretty cool.
mircea_popescu: i didn't go to school every morning i knew the other kids would show up because "i had theorems to prove"
adlai goes back to slinging conses, because he's "not good enough to sling dope"
mircea_popescu: that's the fucking thing there. "some people have no theorems to prove ; most people have no friends that'd know a proof"
adlai: if you're better at quantifying how much sense a market's making to you, than other traders, then you stand to earn more, more often, than them.
adlai: on a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everycipher drops to mostly
mircea_popescu: "making sense quite often" is like the cipher that mostly works lol
adlai: eh, markets make sense quite often, trouble is milking out the sense before the market understands itself
mircea_popescu: ask newton if he more enjoyed his time with the euro jet set that recognized the lion by his claw ; or with the domestic merchant class that drove the south sea bubble.
adlai: this is why markets are excellent... they're the dissertation committee that never goes home
assbot: Logged on 15-02-2016 18:04:21; asciilifeform: it suggests that erdos was right, most people 'have no theorems to prove', the idiot social stotting game ~is~ the point of living, to them.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-02-2016#1406191 << that's not it. some people have WHOM TO PROVE THEOREMS TO! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: which is a peculiar weird of the us/canada.
assbot: Logged on 15-02-2016 18:03:19; asciilifeform: that'd be a global plague, affecting all fat & comfortable folks everywhere ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-02-2016#1406186 << notrealy. the other ingredient is never beating the kids. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: jurov "they don't succeed at making money, but that's secondary - they succeed at feeling like a trader".
jurov: if you can't design yourself, don't tell us it would be cheap
mircea_popescu: "we don't have iron, so we make swords of the reeds we have" is not sense.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fact is, i'm not a mircea_popescu , and i design and build out of materials that i can have , rather than what i would have if i were a mircea_popescu .
jurov: btw, your brain leaks, too
mircea_popescu: but then you don't want to be a mouse.
mircea_popescu: the solution to these faux problems is always the same, "don't want very much". which will make random offering perfectly fine.
mircea_popescu: you'll also not have easy, meaningless sex with random women that you enjoy. and you won't be able to eat from garbage cans and always find exactly what you wanted to find in there.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you even knew what other things i do that are 'no way to live'
mircea_popescu: it already forces you to eat from the latrine.
mircea_popescu: it is not a way to live.
asciilifeform: note, it is an entirely legit thing, to design for dirigible, for reactor. but i do not have these things. so i don't design for them.
mircea_popescu: would you stop trying to support this insane lifestyle of "i need laptop" ?
asciilifeform: say i want machine that does not radiate, ~under the open sky~
mircea_popescu: much like say a social worker would be "oh, this solution doesn't provide work for enough social workers"