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mircea_popescu: the practical options are either i spend something which on a rough estimate is about 8k to get the thing thoroughly looked into,
mircea_popescu: Namjies : i'm not doing affidavits as a proxy for anyone just cause you figure i should.
smickles: the way that lawyer letter looked, 'gigamining' was a glbse only thing of another company
mircea_popescu: no, the question is, do you have a statement from the issuer of the thing you're discussing saying that the thing you're discussing is going to behave in the manner you're proposing.
mircea_popescu: well, it had a (details) clause that included all that.
mircea_popescu: afaik this isn't moving to a new exchange.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu is a boober
Namjies: There's a difference between the financial vehicle and it's exchange... an exchange can close or expel a specific stock.
smickles: I have an idea, but at a low confidence interval
mircea_popescu: just because it's not a blog.
mircea_popescu: ftr, the entire "blogs are not a source" like of wikipedia, while they take utter junk such as news sites into account...
mircea_popescu: Born in 2007 as a Second Life insurance company, The Rock has evolved in a full featured virtual financial institution. Based in US, founded by EU citizens, run by long-standing virtual experts.
smickles: "While it has been said that the ECB report doesn't deny or disprove that Bitcoin is a Ponzi scheme, it doesn't accuse it of being a Ponzi either. The Reuters source is just a headline (as far as it saying anyone even mentions Ponzi and Bitcoin in the same sentence). Headlines are often written by people other than the article's author for the purpose of attracting eyeballs, not communicating relevant information. The other citation (currently us
smickles: it probably is ment as a rolling 365 days
mircea_popescu: i saw someone publish a list
smickles: if you only have 5 bonds then the effort to maintain a secure wallet is a higher cost than the value of the bonds
smickles: 50 euro must get you a hight quality stamp impression from the notary
smickles: "And how do you expect anyone to find a reliable source pointing this out about the vast majority of appreciating assets?"
smickles: "I wrote earlier “That characteristic being that early adopters are benifited greater than the latecomers. But this can be said of any appreciating asset.” in reference to the only submitted evidence for Bitcoin being anything near a ponzi scheme in the statements citations.
PsychoticBoy: I will let the staff of bitcointalk vote for you to be marked as scammer before making a public scammer tag request, cause these requirements make no sense at all
smickles: i know a few accountants who offer it at no charge
gigavps: should be pretty easy to write a note that said you own the bonds and the bitcoin addy
smickles: then dooglas posted a tx log, and was liek " 'tis you bro"
smickles: some guy doing a martingale got lucky, then lost it
matthewh3: plus I'd only ever use a Windoze PC that is locked down like in a library.
mircea_popescu: jesus fuck, what is the point of making a black friday event
mircea_popescu: "the only thing that comes up for "Christmas" on bitmit is a Canadian silver coin."
smickles: Update on the S.DICE month >> http://blog.smickles.com/bitcoin/bitcoin-finance/a-good-month-for-s-dice-shareholders-in-the-making/?preview=true&preview_id=46&preview_nonce=ddeb71c330#update_23nov12
matthewh3: I use Gmail with a very secure password.
matthewh3: I'm moving RSM to - https://btct.co - they email the asset issuer a full shareholders list every twelve hours. So no problem if the exchange ever goes dark. There based in Belize and have a lawyer.
mircea_popescu: GLBSE'D Definition: You invest coins in a bitcoin project and that project uses your coins to hire a lawyer who proceeds to use legal avenues to make it practically impossible you will get your bitcoins back.
mircea_popescu: there is a funny aspect of the entire glbse thing. the mylawyr people specialise in :
mircea_popescu: PsychoticBoy i'll bet you a btc he won't.
PsychoticBoy: hmmmnz should not be long till someone hires a hitman on tor
smickles: heh, a legal scam
PsychoticBoy: before asking a scammer tag i n public, I will make a thread in the staff forum and let the staff vote
JWU42: So if YABMC were to follow a similar claims process then I egt a scammer tag too ;)
PsychoticBoy: not extreme, a lawyer taking over<< thats extreme
JWU42: PsychoticBoy: that seems a bit extreme
smickles: if the trend holds, in a month, the entire planet should be reading my blog
PsychoticBoy: F him, he is a fussy P
mircea_popescu: cause there's a sudden change in how they run, so.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i think someone sorta-competent bought a chunk of bitfinex interest or some sort of deal
smickles: mircea_popescu: heh, yeah. a part of me responded with BS, and another part wanted to respond with "well, I put it that way because it was just a little sensational"
mircea_popescu: btc being able to help is by no means a foregone conclusion
sgornick: > to think that only a few short months away everyone was pissing their pants thinking of the sec.
mircea_popescu: so who was saying i'm in for a loads of pressure from the sec ?
smickles: can someone take a look at my first paragraph here http://blog.smickles.com/bitcoin/the-ponzi-of-wikipedia-and-bitcoin/#comment-12 and tell me if i'm making sense, if I am, i will bring it to the discussion in the bitcoin wikipedia page
mircea_popescu: the only way to handle that is through a lawyer
mircea_popescu: well people will have to at the very least sign a renounciation of claim
PsychoticBoy: I will take ABM/PGM to a lawyer too, send info or never get paid mwuhahaha
Ukto: I concur, giga has or will be paying quite a bit for them to handle the volume
pigeons: giga likely paid a lot for his counsel, so he's likely to follow it
pigeons: "and if i i ever give advice like the law student nefario met in a sandwich shop, i will step down"
mircea_popescu: "as a lawyer, I hereby promise to be a lawyer and behave accordingly to the rules. if I don't, with or without this useless declaration I am still held liable"
mircea_popescu: how does a lawyer nda sound like ?
mircea_popescu: gigavps someone is asking for a nda from the lawyer
PsychoticBoy: Is this a loophole not to pay back?
gigavps: mircea_popescu a lot
Diablo-D3: they failed to ship, they are a scam.
Diablo-D3: even if they ship, its still forever a scam
Diablo-D3: all numbered and signed with a pgp key used only for this and then locked away in a vault
Ukto: still have a few more important things, but wont hold back launch
Ukto: until I come up with a plan for it
Ukto: so I did it, in a fashionable way.
Ukto: right now its almost a literal glbse clone
Ukto: mircea_popescu: is there anyone else who has a btc stock exchange thats been created since that is ready to launch ?
mircea_popescu: to think that only a few short months away everyone was pissing their pants thinking of the sec.
mircea_popescu: whoa! someone contributed a story!
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/voluntary-contracts-after-a-while/#comment-90636
Azelphur: so many bitcoins that it's not even a number any more.
rdponticelli: But you can't do much on the site without a balance...
Namjies: I'm building a rocket. Leaving this rock. Anyone with me?
mircea_popescu: anyone still extending credit to a government these days is absolutely loony.
mircea_popescu: Fox News claims in an exclusive report published this week that among the global taxes slated to be considered by the UN this year are a 1 percent tax on billionaires around the world, a “tiny” tax on all financial transactions worldwide and even yet another fee tacked on to already heavily-taxed airline tickets.
jcpham: splish splash i was taking a bath
smickles: according to my math, if the fish is 10, and you repeatedly go after it with a .1 fish, you should lose over the long haul average
smickles: but you wouldn't expect to profit if the odds are a certain way
mircea_popescu: the reason it makes sense to attack a large fish if you have more money than his weight is gambler's ruin
mircea_popescu: it has a rake
mircea_popescu: the odds are 1:101 for B to win and 100:101 for A to win.
mircea_popescu: A stands to gain .5 and to lose 50, B to gain 50 and lose .5
mircea_popescu: basically the way i see it, 100 btc fish A and 1 btc fish B
mircea_popescu: can you just quote the thing here so i don't have to make a new fish ?
kakobrekla: its a stupid game in any case.
smickles: kakobrekla: i think that is a good position to hold tho
kakobrekla: I would probably play a .5 fish 20 times tho...
kakobrekla: I do not want a 10 BTC fish.
kakobrekla: wait, doesnt the size of the fish reflect your odds of winning a battle
mircea_popescu: august 2011 was such a kickass month huh.
mircea_popescu: support : we are sorry but we are out of cash today and it was a holiday in japan.
mircea_popescu: when you say fame, you got a fame right ?
mircea_popescu: you're the goatse ? i fed you earlier a little. like the idea.
mircea_popescu: why buy them out ? "very low barrier to entry" "anyone could make a game"
mircea_popescu: emailed a link
smickles: mircea_popescu: http://blog.smickles.com/criticism/bitcoin-magazine-leaves-out-a-crucial-detail/#edit
smickles: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/13n7dn/bitcoin_magazine_leaves_out_a_crucial_detail/
mircea_popescu: it was an attempt to create a CDO series
thestringpuller: you invested in nyan.a popescu?
mircea_popescu: what's a honaor