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PeterL: what independence? they all get elected by the same people, don't they?
mircea_popescu: so the problem isn't the fact that the police machinery of the rogue state is a criminal entreprise ; and people understandably want to avoid them. ☟︎
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-22: [17:21:35] <mats> there are lots of folks that still believe snowden didn't act under orders
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160922/#567 << the usg bureaucracy is very much dumb-woman-from-montana as depicted by frances mcdormand in fargo. there's this list of formal sins that's all they comprehend and consequently serve as their only interface wioth the world. "said nigger" "didn't eat veggies" "doesn't recycle" "cheated on spouse" etc.
mircea_popescu: but honestly, a little bit of exposure can't hurt anything.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-22: [17:03:40] <shinohai> They have to come here to register keyz, deedbot isn't in #eulora chan
mircea_popescu: on current tech sweet spot seems to be somewhere in the 1 to 10 W ; which is how and why wifi is even a thing ; and which drives the question that wouldn't it be much better to just use wifi instead ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-22#1547255 << this point doesn't get much press, but radio - just like, e.g., nuke - suffers from severe case of diminishing returns ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160922/#449 << "There was at least one mistake I did in my BIOS book that I didn't realize due to my handicap in not having an ICE and its related skills." gimme a break ; that dude read nothing past cereal boxes.
asciilifeform: this idea doesn't belong to me, either, it is ancient.
mats: there are lots of folks that still believe snowden didn't act under orders
phf: is this like the cry of every school yard loser, "he wasn't fighting fair"
shinohai: So wasn't a big deal to me.
shinohai: I mean I usually just don't voice them until they actually produce a key.
trinque: I don't see a problem with people coming to the forum to announce their existence as a person.
shinohai: They have to come here to register keyz, deedbot isn't in #eulora chan
asciilifeform: shinohai: i still don't fully grasp why they gotta come here and not #eulora
shinohai: so logs don't get cluttered
asciilifeform: ... didn't mircea_popescu have a separate kindergarten for these folks..?
asciilifeform: mats: wouldn't surprise me if at this point even the blinkers had own micro
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: this isn't any old d00d, either, his b00k is excellent << Hence why very newsworthy. Raises your esteem and that of republic. Harder for a certain sort to ignore than Phuctor.
asciilifeform: yes, it is nice to have 100kW sw that can be reliably heard across the atlantic. but you don't need it to cross land, it is much better to have 1,001 small and disposable unattended boxes.
shinohai: neat asciilifeform ... I haven't sourced one of the others yet :/
asciilifeform: Framedragger: you can't have a network of cheapo relays with seekrits in'em
PeterL: hi burnsd03, who are you? name makes me think of burnside, wasn't that the btctc guy?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this isn't any old d00d, either, his b00k is excellent
asciilifeform: so you don't actually need any elaborate moving parts, lighthouses, etc
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform tru, but dollars to donuts they didn't change the magic for each chip.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: notice, you don't even need the external i/o pins
mircea_popescu: it's very much a destructive psychiatric condition ; harmful for self, harmful for others. smoke and don't do this, rather than don't smoke and do it.
asciilifeform: imagine living in obama's closet when he isn't looking. you can actually do that in radio...
asciilifeform: so that you aren't stuck having to talk about it over the degrading channel
mircea_popescu: the curse of this language space is that pretty much everything degrades by degrees into this wordy masturbation where people get excited over ideas then agree they can't be done then move on to the next.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: pirates who don't use any crypto at all tend to have problems just the same, for 'tresspassing' on whatever sovereign's 'owned' spectrum.
asciilifeform: PeterL: if i can tell that stego is in use, it ain't stego, definitionally
mircea_popescu: and i do recall it ; which proves that they aren't eh ?
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: and those will of course not have much bandwidth capacity. but i maintain that to usefully PoC the thing, you don't need much at all. jeebus, having a radio-based key server would be amazing already
Framedragger: you don't need to cover the whole damn globe (ionosphere bounces notwithstanding). it's just a *node*
Framedragger: i still don't understand why the hell you need them 100kW
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no. they don't care ; it's you that have mental issues.
Framedragger: yeah i wouldn't transmit encrypted shortwaves from usa, that indeed sounds like doom
asciilifeform: transmit something they can't decode, and they carefully guide the gasenwagen right to your house
Framedragger: but all those radio amateurs happily listening to each other's callsigns around the globe - they don't have powerful stations do they?
mircea_popescu: in short : it wouldn't be wasted work, we'll certainly use it later ; it's not yet scheduled, but the scheduler isn't blocking in this sense.
Framedragger: that's the thing, i wonder if a few points around the globe wouldn't be enough, in principle!
mircea_popescu: not that you can't just go ahead and proof it, if you want to.
Framedragger: btw regarding "there is no sane NIC out there" problem and appreciating the fact that designing a whole proper NIC may not be an efficient effort ("ip stack should be eventually abandoned", lots of work, economies of scale at work in semiconductor production, whatnot), i wonder why asciilifeform hasn't considered investing time not in seeking a sane nic, but rather designing / using a sane transport protocol via *radio* (i don't mean shi
asciilifeform: all dma-enabled (because pc arch doesn't actually offer any other way to move Gb/sec)
asciilifeform: phf: afaik qualcomm doesn't make WIRED nics
mircea_popescu: in short, to codify years of extand practice, the "how to participate in the affairs" actually has a lot of bite. one who isn't a citizen has no rights. his complaints have no standing, whatever their content ; and no redress is available.
mircea_popescu: ie, "we don't need lords - here's robotic replacement our bureaucrats devised"
mircea_popescu: the thief doesn't own what he "holds"
mircea_popescu: it's not just "the right to vote" that goes away upon review and limitation of the franchise. derps simply can't hold property, whether they be "the government of the united states" or "jane doe".
phf: i don't know the current mirror, i was using librusec, until that too went to shit
phf: trinque: mechanics of padmasana doesn't put weight on knees. i don't know what that lady is doing (that picture is straight up cargo cult), but even in her caise majority of her weight is on the lower buttocks
phf: trinque: they don't in both cases there's a cushion
phf: kind of disappointed this isn't a thing either, http://s3.amazonaws.com/cooltools_legacy/archives/duvall.jpg (was custom designed and built by herman miller for SAIL)
asciilifeform: this one doesn't seem to fall into any of the known litmus categories.
mircea_popescu: seeing how it takes about two hours to teach anyone to suck cock but you can't turn 99% of extant female population into fap fodder no matter what you do.
asciilifeform: and can't think what other use.
mircea_popescu: if your crazy chechen cousin brought you a goat, you wouldn't want to KEEP it
asciilifeform: t of the change.'
mircea_popescu: which, given that it's not 2000 anymore, they can't reproduce.
mircea_popescu: needless to say, qntra isn't going to implement italian "supreme court" bullshit ; nor is "italy" a sovereign in any sense.
thestringpuller: i guess i don't understand the obsession
PeterL: "just relax, spread wider, this won't hurt a bit"
asciilifeform: 'The case originated when the owners of a restaurant decided that they no longer would accept that a news piece reporting on an legal case in which they were involved was accessible online from the archives of Primadanoi.it, a local news website of the Abruzzo region ... The plaintiffs did not dispute the veracity of the facts reported in the article, which is incidentally a case still at bar, nor the circumstance that, at least as t
phf: and it's definitely ~not~ the case of spreading works. python made a very right and sane distinction between strings and bytes. and the interaction of the two requires awareness. the mistake that they made is to make the conversion implicit, which lets people pretend like underlying problems don't exist, and when it breaks ~like it should~ blame it on python
phf: asciilifeform: having fixed a share of "unicode doesn't work in python!!1" problems, i'm pretty sure that it's an operator problem
a111: Logged on 2016-09-21 14:52 phf: and for the record, read in python doesn't ever fail, what fails is elevation from str to unicode that implicitly happens in places, like when you do "print" or inside the html encoder or whatever. the correct way is to treat "str" as a byte sequence, and explicitly do encode/decode when appropriate.
asciilifeform: can't speak immediately for other winblowsen.
phf: and for the record, read in python doesn't ever fail, what fails is elevation from str to unicode that implicitly happens in places, like when you do "print" or inside the html encoder or whatever. the correct way is to treat "str" as a byte sequence, and explicitly do encode/decode when appropriate. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: (ftr this is the irc protocol, even if many clients don't respect it. latin-1 with utf-8 fallback.)
a111: Logged on 2016-09-21 13:18 Framedragger: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160921/#109 << znc puts shitty non-utf-but-should-be-utf chars in logs, bot trips over them and can't ignore them. that is also (cc mircea_popescu) the reason why it keeps saying it's the same char at same position: even if you just read() the whole file into buffer, it's gonna fail (at the same place). obviously this is unsustainable, i.e. i won't put up with this.
mircea_popescu: also you don't recommend upgrading. NOT EVER.
scriba: vulnerabilities involved to the public. Without this information the public simply assumed t
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160921/#235 << people don't normally belong outside of the cow pen, either.
asciilifeform nostalgic, and wasn't even there
asciilifeform: 'the SSD is locked in a proprietary RAID mode that Linux doesn't understand.'
asciilifeform: mment anywhere on their support forum until they've read it and have made sure it won't embarrass them.'
scriba: Exception: ['utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0x93 in position 295: invalid start byte]
Framedragger: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160921/#109 << znc puts shitty non-utf-but-should-be-utf chars in logs, bot trips over them and can't ignore them. that is also (cc mircea_popescu) the reason why it keeps saying it's the same char at same position: even if you just read() the whole file into buffer, it's gonna fail (at the same place). obviously this is unsustainable, i.e. i won't put up with this. ☟︎
asciilifeform: you won't find conlangers attempting to speak klingon to strangers on the street, nor to force elvish into school curriculum. afaik.
mircea_popescu: this then is also the fundamental ideological difference between republic ("we'll kill you if you continue in this manner - and we don't care how many losers just like you have to die") vs empire ("no child left behind! no matter the cost this imposes on the normal children!").
trinque: doesn't know her litany against fear
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you're still captive in this "usg is rational" nonsense. it isn't.
scriba: Exception: ['utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0x93 in position 295: invalid start byte]
mircea_popescu: lulzy at the "francis dba leah certainly isn't going anywhere". really ?
scriba: Exception: ['utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0x93 in position 295: invalid start byte]
trinque: you don't know how democracy works
mod6: <+shinohai> Didn't try the gentoo yet but don't expect any issues << ok let me know, im doing my testing on gentoo to start with anyway.
shinohai: Didn't try the gentoo yet but don't expect any issues
pete_dushenski: "To me, Facebook is perhaps the most worrisome of all the Big Data concerns of the book. It now exercises an incredible amount of influence over what information people see, with this influence sometimes being sold to the highest bidder." << PEEEEEPLE. not cows and other sundry farm animals. couldn't be!
scriba: Exception: ['utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0x93 in position 295: invalid start byte]
mircea_popescu: isn't it kerfuffle ?
BingoBoingo: transfats don't matter. The point is ATTRIBUTION VS PLAGIARISM!
BingoBoingo: Don't forget the backdoor case this makes for V! WHo' next down on the outrage train to make that case explicitly!
asciilifeform: ( for some reason my client displays replies from jhvh1 in #t tab )
asciilifeform: it isn't even entirely clear what anyone might hope to accomplish, beyond the merely annoying, by screwing with phuctor
asciilifeform: the ones which don't, ring the bell, and i look