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phf: ben_vulpes: what about 3d printed Babylonian
tablets!
pete_dushenski: i don't for a second
think it's just correlation. wealth can't guarantee anything any more
than obama - but can wealth, unlike obama, provide opportunities ? i'm inclined
to say so. ergo wealthy man can at least materially afford personal car-computer, whether or not he can intellectually afford it is borne by whether or not he actually does.
phf: ben_vulpes: posted
to observe minor
twitch
that
this is going
to produce in some people here :)
phf: probably going
to dust in some weirdo's private collection, aka indian jones archives
phf: "This lot includes
two Scheme-81 computer chips, signed by Gerald Sussman.
This lot also includes a commemorative 3D-printed Babylonian styled
tablet containing
the password
to a private Github repository where
the buyer may access an image of
the Scheme-81 chips."
mod6: i'll check out
the ps
tho
mod6: some good examples of stuff in
there.
mod6: yeah, i've figured
that from what i've seen
thus far in sicp. which is alright.
phf: sicp is more of a "all you need
to know about computation as a
thing" book, rather
then specifically a way
to learn scheme. i know very few people who actually got
through it on
their own
phf: it's basically a self contained, and very readable spec of
the language
BingoBoingo: My reading of
the history is r6rs was a coup attempt
to
turn scheme into a sort of python or perl with
too much built in shit
mod6: whats
the deal in
there?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It's
their reaction
to some derpy sports story about career of guy who sportsballed and
then became a rape-cop who is now in prison. Derps published
the story now other derps are
trying
to indict
the entire concept of long form over
the story.
mircea_popescu: their opinion on stuff like
trilema is about as welcome as
the housewife's
thoughts on stage makeup.
mircea_popescu: the collected "profession" of "journalist" can't if working
together
think a
thousand words ahead.
assbot: A Few
Thoughts On Longform, Inspired By
The Current Debate Over Its Significance And Necessity In Our Fast-Changing Media Landscape -
The Awl ... (
http://bit.ly/1PTQCre )
BingoBoingo: My
the
things
that get engineered
these days.
mod6: seems like we'll have
to write a lot of our own procedure libs. which is maybe a good
thing i guess.
mod6: and
the
tinyscheme docs
assbot: Logged on 22-02-2016 23:54:45; pete_dushenski: if you're not making $100k++ per annum and cannot afford extra rooms in house or apartment
to enjoy as 'office',
then yes, a jungle man is you. in which case, you're using a phablet primarily and a dusty laptop on rare occasions when you need
to print a document.
the only exception being, perhaps, g4amerz.
mod6: once i do some more reading im going
to attempt
to read a file.
mod6: i guess it just says "unbound variable: system" but it seems
to be in
the docs under extentions. *shrug*
mod6: i was
trying
to do (system "ls") or whatever with
tinyscheme, but i must be doin something wrong
mod6: i
think im like, getting lost in all
the different dialects of lisp.
mod6: like
there's
this
thing called 'guile'
that'll let you issue system commands and such...
mod6: i was lookin at
tinyscheme stuff.
trying
to wrap my mind around stuff.
mod6: me
too, busy as f. but im out of
the woods on
this work
thing i
think.
mod6: how's everyone doing
tonight?
mod6: asciilifeform:
that 1 bit chip was interesting
mod6: Saw your later
tell,
thanks.
pete_dushenski: if you're not making $100k++ per annum and cannot afford extra rooms in house or apartment
to enjoy as 'office',
then yes, a jungle man is you. in which case, you're using a phablet primarily and a dusty laptop on rare occasions when you need
to print a document.
the only exception being, perhaps, g4amerz.
☟︎ pete_dushenski: asciilifeform:
that's an apt analogy in
that both car and hdd are superficially affordable, but not practically. old car costs hundreds if not
thousands in unexpected maintenance EVERY YEAR. hdd costs
time, space,
troubleshooting, etcetc. a car you own outright (ie. no debt payments), like a desktop you own outright (ie. no winbloze avec nsa) are exceedingly high-end appointments. neither is 'accessible' in any way.
jurov: so where's
the difference?
pete_dushenski: there's everything aristocratic about owning
the means of production and
transportation. why do you
think 'car sharing' and 'sharing economy' are so in vogue with
the impoverished masters degree set ?
pete_dushenski: well, don't drive in
traffic.
take scenic route.
that's
the whole point of car.
the scenery. as well as
the ability
to stop here for lunch and
there for coffee and over
there for an ice cream, etc.
pete_dushenski: this is fantasy
trip
to montreal, recall. you said cab man, not me.
pete_dushenski: and wtf a 10 hour cab ride would cost a grand+. each way. you can fly
to amsterdam for
that. or rent porsche from rental company for drive.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: say you want
to pop up
to montreal for
the week, so you rent something fast, enjoy yourself with pet. road
trip chats are quite unlike anything else.
kakobrekla: care
to elaborate
to us noobs how is 'bitserial' better
than 'multibit'?
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: drive
to
travel (ie. road
trip), drive for sport (ie.
track)
pete_dushenski: there is no such
thing as a pleasant commute. it's for slaves and sucks commensurately. as it should.
pete_dushenski: now you're confusing 'commute i'd want
to drive' with 'car i'd want
to drive'
assbot: Logged on 22-02-2016 04:46:10; mircea_popescu: fact of
the matter is, when it comes
to
technology we're all bums. nobody can make a fucking car he'd want
to drive.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: for at least
the next decade, i'll have
to
take your word on
this
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: what's
the big deal about being original ?
that's not
the
talk
to someone visiting a hotel. 'this living out of a suitcase
thing is really most splendid, why doesn't everyone do
this?'
pete_dushenski: traction for
those more interested in what
their peers ~think~
they do
than what
they actually do.
assbot: Logged on 22-02-2016 04:23:22; mircea_popescu: phf no, it's
the porsche for a new generation.
tho i'm unsure whether anyone here understands or cares
to
think about what
those
things ~are~.
pete_dushenski:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-02-2016#1412957 << my reading of porsche for
the 60s generation was a certain professional young man's (or well-heeled dilettante's) europhilic desire for post-war rennsport purity.
the 90s/00s generation came
to fetishise
this, detaching it from reality, and in
the process adding dildos of every unspeakable sort
to
the ak
that was. in
this sense, casascius coins are a necessary
☝︎ mircea_popescu: i can show
there's shoeboxes in
the cryptologically hard cabinet under
the drawer with bras and shit