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punkman: "mircea_popescu: however a lot of leeway is available re shitty sites. i honestly couldn't care less what "functionality" is lost through js being discarded out of hand, for instance. << archive.is (as a browsing tool) seems useless without javascript, might as well render the page in lynx/dilla/modern browser with js disabled.
mircea_popescu: o look, sept 2015 item by... amir taaki ? srsly ?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron im pretty sure it only takes that command from him ; also prolly best give her some time to get better wot-integrated - the few times we let marginals in the feed it worked out poorly in the end.
BingoBoingo: mod6: Nah, Tiger mom makes sure the kid develops the asps instead
mod6: is there such a thing as adhd in china? if a kid just wont do stuff or doesn't pay attention they just hit you with a stick no?
danielpbarron: ;;later tell trinque please to add this feed ^^ I think it only works for you
danielpbarron: hm.. idk why that won't work. that's how trinque added all the others
mod6: thought that was her twitter feed haha
assbot: Brave The World ... ( http://bit.ly/1VDnVjY )
mod6: is that going to drop every tweet into a deed?
assbot: Brave The World ... ( http://bit.ly/1VDnVjY )
danielpbarron: >> I told him that a child in Africa dies every 3 seconds. He was surprised at that. He said "I know black people have rhythm, but that is some amazing timing, you guys should try out for X-Factor".
mod6: shit that was seventeen years ago.
asciilifeform: l0l! did they also talk for months about magnetic field lines after taking intro physics /
mod6: friend of mine only ever talked about "cons-boxes" for about 2 months.
mod6: I think they used to teach this SICP directly as the first programming class at UofM - used it as a weed-out course.
mircea_popescu: "published the book first"
mircea_popescu: this incidentally is how that dude stole lisp
asciilifeform: i have this edition here, even.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: he published it in dead tree
BingoBoingo: ESR stole it by putting it on just just in time for Google to be birthed
asciilifeform: but i suspect that the story is not meaningfully different from how drepper stole libc
asciilifeform: one day i would like to learn how esr stole 'hacker's dictionary'
mod6: Snarf: ``To grab, especially a large document or file for the purpose of using it either with or without the owner's permission.'' Snarf down: ``To snarf, sometimes with the connotation of absorbing, processing, or understanding.'' (These definitions were snarfed from Steele et al. 1983. See also Raymond 1993.)
mod6: She asked me if "snarffed" was a technical term, now I can point at this:
mircea_popescu: also, what do i care of the living. will go to the great prison in the sky, all the people there'll be impressed enough. "bigger than france ?! pasol nahui!"
asciilifeform: eh to be fair france is pretty small now and getting smaller
mircea_popescu predicts that by the time he's dead, b-a will be bigger than fucking france.
mircea_popescu: ahh this insurection is coming along nicely.
mod6: im actually glad for that. and personally, I don't even want to look at any other lisp really because other lisps seem to have a bunch more built-in functions that we'll basically not use.
phf: mod6: i have an OP for symbol-value, on top of which you can build a pretty decent "apropos"
asciilifeform: and i picked this kind of scheme deliberately.
asciilifeform: the thing is quite bare bones, and will need heavy work.
mod6: or do we need to write a proc for that too?
mod6: alright. i was thinking with using scheme (like I was saying lastnight), we'll have to build some pretty extensive libs of procs of our own. which is probably better anyway... but, it'd be cool if this thing would tell you what you've already defined.
phf: probably some kind of tree structure for fast lookup
phf: mod6: no, i think it's a side effect of the way oblist is constructed
mod6: lol, no idea how that correlates yet, but that is indeed the actual stored defintion no?
mod6: i didn't know that's what you called those works of art.
phf: oh it's that chick that got sussman to sell his chips
mircea_popescu: heh. what a tryptich
assbot: Humans of Straya — Good morning welcome to Umptos, my name is... ... ( http://bit.ly/1S0ikW0 )
BingoBoingo: Is this more to alf taste? http://www.humansofstraya.com/post/128774013198/good-morning-welcome-to-umptos-my-name-is#notes
mod6: i'll have to go back and re-read some of our previous threads on the topics.
asciilifeform: only question is in ~what order~ the deps must go
asciilifeform: there is no possible dispute that it must die.
mircea_popescu: iirc there's consensus on that matter.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform bdb should be taken out ftr.
asciilifeform: mod6: would have to replace bdb.
mircea_popescu: mod6 it's definitely possible ; ideally it'd come after a proper data model for the data.
mod6: food for thought perhaps.
mod6: ok, so that's a possible whole replacement piece, sure. was just thinking is it worth possibly making a temporary tool for this until bitcoinfs? or just wait and do bitcoinfs.
mircea_popescu: for one thing, linux managed to implement journaling in such a way it barely works
asciilifeform: (ideally, running on top of a raid card with battery packs, like i have here)
asciilifeform: mod6: the only possible solution is a journalling fs.
mod6: mircea_popescu: awesome. yeah, i agree we should do something there. that's super annoying that it happened to these guys.
asciilifeform: 'after the burial parties leave, and the baffled crows have fled, the wise hyenas come out at eve, to take account of our dead' (tm) (r) (kipling)
mircea_popescu: mod6 it is, but big chunk and scheduled for after this scheme thing is better digested.
mod6: qq: Can something be developed to help these guys with the corrupted databases when they get a hard-reboot?perhaps something similar to cutblock that will say lopp off the last blk####.dat file or something? is this worth looking into?
mircea_popescu: women pick up the drunks and men pick up what the lions left off, whenever they could chase the hyenas away.
mircea_popescu: phf actually that scavenger strategy is the larger part of why humans are still around.
phf: past first paragraph is bogus, fat girls don't act like that in clubs, that's just an overactive imagination. what they actually do is pick up leftovers, or particularly drunk guys who were attracted by the group. it's literally a scavenger strategy, and being obnoxious will ensure that the girl is never again invited with her hotter friends. (they want to get fucked too, jeez)
mircea_popescu: omfg alf sees the world like a bee-dog : in black and white and all pixelated. ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: they have ~literally~ the same face.
asciilifeform: like the 2 camels earlier.
asciilifeform: ftr, they all look exactly the same to me.
mircea_popescu: (incidentally, none of those 4 derps is fuckable. the tall blonde has the typical ustard chin, miserable fucking feature. the jew is short and jewish. the fat one obv and the midwestern "undiscovered beauty" is benning-level psychotic)
mod6: i'll test that out tomorrow when i get a sec.
mircea_popescu: i mean, leaving aside the inanity of posing with one's mother, this may be the most insane thing ever.
mircea_popescu: but the thing IS fascinating. noticed it on okcupid back in the day, a small but present chunk of derps actually used group photos consisting of HOTTER WOMEN
BingoBoingo: Nah, I'm bullying the FBI log readers
mircea_popescu: i think BingoBoingo might be bullying us.
asciilifeform: can haz the gangrene back plox.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i read 4 words of this and barfed.
mircea_popescu: and the server wasn't new, so prolly got his warm bed or something.
mircea_popescu: iirc we used the same dc in odessa.
mircea_popescu: well i suppose technically all russians are the same dude, but even so.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wasn't archive.is the fella who hosted the original unlucky dulap ?
mircea_popescu: strategically i'd rather have it a set of interoperating parts than a single monster monolith.
mircea_popescu: will require that ancient "assbot bitcoin wallets" thing be dusted off, but hey, unavoidable anyway
phf: we can add archive/logs/patches to a single lisp project, call it assetbook and we won't need any other internet anymore
mircea_popescu: also comes with built-in revenue model, "be in the L or else pay this much dust".
mircea_popescu: phf it ~would~ be a pretty decent showcase of lisp, i'll readily grant that.
mircea_popescu: 2013 tho
phf: "can't have our thing, but here's a link to a chrome extension that does nothing like what we do. run along now"
assbot: Archive.is blog — Is it possible to get the source code of this... ... ( http://bit.ly/1S0gnZN )
phf: above is entirely java stack, and the quoted parts only talk about storage aspect. (accumulo is layer on top of hadoop's hdfs)
mircea_popescu: however a lot of leeway is available re shitty sites. i honestly couldn't care less what "functionality" is lost through js being discarded out of hand, for instance.
mircea_popescu: "The archive runs Apache Hadoop and Apache Accumulo. All data is stored on HDFS" what's the esteemed peerage think ? should be rewritten ? worth reusing ?
phf: i think ben_vulpes has been working on his own take on the service? i remember there was some noise last time question came up. anyone attempting will fast realize that it's a pita.
mircea_popescu: now i gotta fish out the guy's email and perhaps see if he'd be willing to share ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, this would be very good synnergy with deedbot, because not only can pages be saved, but sha512sums of the pages can be deeded.
mircea_popescu: in other news, either the code vanished or i;m just delusional, but can't seem to locate it
phf: no, i know a few russian living in netherlands, and they all fall under kind of a similar stereotype
phf: person: Shevchenko Andrey address: Tussen de Bogen 6, 1013 JB Amsterdam, The Netherlands , hehe just the kind of person to run a service like that..
danielpbarron: the main page would load, but when i tried to archive something that's where it would go to a new ip
phf: oh then it's for somebody else to fuck around with
mircea_popescu: phf i am pretty sure the code's published
danielpbarron: i also noticed their ip was weird after i pasted your /etc/hosts list into my own and it stopped working the other day
phf: i have some lisp code to do what archive.is does from back when i was reading everything from kindle, but it'll take a few weeks for me to get it into a running service state..