asciilifeform: Mocky, for instance, is a very compact but quite competent fella. ( but mircea_popescu already snapped him up for a diff proj )☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform in particular could not ransom even with entire piggy , sadly. but fortunately there are other folx with hands growing from right organ )
asciilifeform: and i suppose if other l1 similarly imprisoned but cheaper to ransom than asciilifeform , could potentially make effect
asciilifeform: i can speak only for self, but at least in my case it is tru
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1855842 << actually imho tbf performed 100% to spec even there. i fully expect tbf to be at the ~hindmost~ of all 'exciting new ideaz' adoptions, not forefront. it's a habsburg art gallery, not avant-garde.☝︎
asciilifeform: and there's no return from that shithole
asciilifeform: trinque: as mircea_popescu observed earlier, if we succumb to logic of 'word taint' we'll quickly turn into the speed of light people
asciilifeform: this being said, 'mining is a bug'(tm), if i knew how to gruesomely slaughter all miners while keeping something like working bitcoin net, i promise to say how.
asciilifeform: right nao we only have blox because chinese d00dz i've never heard of, and dun expect to, run ~trb-compat proggies. i've nfi if trb per se helps this state of affairs to continue, but for so long as it continues, oughta at least not interfere, imho.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun propose to 'help' heathens somehow against will. but imho anyffig that in any way makes trb noad harder to stand up than strictly must -- yields terrain to enemy.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: as for 'premium' noad access, recall how the mircea_popescu 'trbi' thread was born. ( classical btc offers no sweet pill for how to reward node operators. any attempt to charge for 'gets mined faster' inevitably reduces to a game the miners can themselves win, cutting out middlemen )
asciilifeform: whereas when somebody throws coin into a prb wallet, for any reason whatsoever, whether because he is idjit or because we made it harder to avoid, that's coin into usg coffers.☟︎
asciilifeform: if idjit breaks it, he can do no harm thereby that prb does not already do; if he runs a valid node, it contributes to strength of the net.☟︎
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i see no gain from putting any obstacle in front of anyone, heathen, chinese, martian, good, evil, who wants to run trb .
asciilifeform: and yes at least 1 cretin 'stole' trb. what did it get him.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it's already pretty much as 'gated' as anyhing gets, already to build it heathen must just about change religions
asciilifeform: can't replace the thing with 'republic only' trbi , not without some yet-unfathomed breakthrough, or, idk, if mircea_popescu takes over brazil, or, whoknows, catastrophic chernobyl that fully demolishes the classical btc net
asciilifeform: and yes if there were some magical way to get errybody who benefits from tbf and ergo working btc net, to put into the piggy, it'd be splendid, thing could fund even such things as flotillae of noads, or even trbi dev, etc, whoknows. but there is no magic. and it is a lucky thing that tbf in fact has the coin with which to do the bare minimum and host patches ( not on shitazon! jurov ! ) and handful of reliable nodes.☟︎
asciilifeform: the continued convertibility of btc into saecular goods, e.g. rack space, is not separable from healthy 'ecology' sadly.☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1855796 << to the extent ( and it is a ~substantial~ extent ) that a healthy btc net relies on ~widely~ available sane client, incl yes even for miners, to limit in any way the distribution of trb src is imho catastrophically stupid idea.☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: to date i haven't conceived of how to make trb into a subscription service ( my 1 attempt at the problem was the 'wires' item ) but this should not discourage others
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: currently not clear to me how there'd be less work if trb were 'mod6 proj' instaed of 'foundation'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu : pretty much erry worthwhile thing can be rewritten as 'permanent burn' of ~somebody~
asciilifeform: mod6: and wouldja rather be doing sumthing else ?
asciilifeform: mod6 : how much time approximately ~does~ it burn ?
asciilifeform: ( enemy wins less from taking out 1 )
asciilifeform: sorta a raid5, theoretically supposed to help the participants' life expectancy
asciilifeform: iirc we did the 'civilized' thing where chair is 1 d00d, treasurer -- another, there's at least a nominal procedure for handover, etc , mircea_popescu suggested it and asciilifeform et al saw it as Right Thing
asciilifeform: this being said, hey hey ho ho crapflare has gotta go !! jurov !!
asciilifeform: and yes i'd luvv as much as errybody else if a battallion of civilized folx were to materialize out of somewhere and donate, or even run nodes. but they are evidently scarce, mircea_popescu beat the subject of 'sane people ~extinct' just about todeath
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-29#1855681 << the piggy afaik does thus far exactly what it was needed for, which is to pay for civilized hosting so the patches even have where to sit. imho anyffing on top of this is bonus.☝︎
asciilifeform: without mircea_popescu's occasional bout of 'wtf, people, from where do you hands grow' we'dve sunk long ago imho
asciilifeform: i dun blame mircea_popescu for pissy, current state of affairs is bad for blood pressure unequivocably
asciilifeform: it is only in heathendom that 'work' equals 'massive flood of coad'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i disagree, btw, that 'epsilon', march-current is when the aggression thing was deployed & tested to exhaustion, and gave proper ~realtime block propagation for 1st time since trb birth
