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asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417284 << wake me up when there is a 'lengthy public inquiry' into michael hastings. or slobo milosevich. or, ...... ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2016 15:31:38; mircea_popescu: oh, and something for muscovites an' aspiring muscovites in the audience : http://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc97rkXYRr1rfxsvfo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: admire the cast iron heating element, and all the stale memes. my adolescence screaming from the dusts of time!
mircea_popescu: oh, and something for muscovites an' aspiring muscovites in the audience : http://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc97rkXYRr1rfxsvfo1_1280.jpg ☟︎
mircea_popescu: roughly speaking the equivalent of a man who married a street whore, had a daughter with her somehow, and now that the girl's of age being almost 11and a half he is very fond of demonstrating to random passerbys in the street just how unlike her mother the youngun is, through the age old process of stuffing bills in her various articles of clothing as "see, she doesn't even take the stocks off!"
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2016 09:13:37; ben_vulpes: what i appear to have forgotten since the last time i looked into this pit of snakes is that it calls all of the rpc functions in turn to construct the help list.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417306 << i always thought that's one of the better gems of lolcomedy in that thing. you see, it's so fucking abstract, it calls the things to get the list of messages, hurr durr. no magic strings here, we just do calls!!11 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2016 09:14:05; punkman: not a bad idea to write down reading notes and share on mailing list
mircea_popescu: then the SOPS goons wanna wonder why people don't give a shit about their nonsense.
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2016 09:00:26; punkman: 10 year inquiry that results in nothing in particular
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417292 << resulted in "o, what are you, some sort of lunatic discussing the matter ? THERE IS AN ACTIVE INQUIRY GOING" for a fucking decade. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2016 08:22:54; punkman: mircea_popescu: .. supercute de-windows-ization : http://logs.minigame.bz/2016-02-27.log.html#t23:38:19 << I like the command line sure, but I find editing text without a mouse a hassle, same for trying to remember 1000 keyboard shortcuts for each of 100 apps, or having to spend 10 minutes to figure out obscure cli options to use something once.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417268 << i'm not proposing the guy is right or wrong re editor to use, mind. still, culture shock. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: roughly speaking the equivalnt of a shelf of make-up in the workshop or "i wanna watch tv on my computor" sorta things. get a husband / get a tv set if that's what you're trying to do and get out of everyone's way.
mircea_popescu: it's really one of those things that should never have been.
mircea_popescu: i've been spending the ~week since the various selectatron discussions meditating on the problem. i do not believe javascript is rescuable. not withstanding all the effort derps put into it, javascript is fundamentally a broken idea that for this reason can never be useful. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2016 07:50:03; phf: signers is misguided, shows everyone participating in the press
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417240 <<what's misguided about that ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and speaking of "good things that ruin other good things", is it generally obvious to the esteemed b-a WHY the movement to "more women in tech", "more women in army", "more women in bla-bla" trends ? i thought it is, but then again maybe i'm the only one to whom it is.\ ☟︎
mircea_popescu: d if it WERE addressable it'd just be shittier text. much like the uniform for a whore, some good things ruin other good things.
mircea_popescu: you may think that "hey, so you just found your solution, have the machine put a ¶ or a § before each paragraph and an anchor on it", but no. flat text is fundamentally different from ADRESSABLE text in general, the "paragraph-addressable" is a least-offensive kludge. and yes trilema is written deliberately, and constantly, with a view to breaking addressability from outside. because that's the sort of text it is, an
mircea_popescu: fortunately btcbase does not actually need it as much as flat text. (there's a difference between text that's line-addressable and text that's paragraph-addressable.)
mircea_popescu: so goes my faint, if generous but doomed attempt to rescue javascript.
shinohai: ;;later tell mod6 http://btcinfo.sdf.org/node.html <<< back above 70% xD
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417213 << i think we'll have to give up the mp's select thing. it apparently doesn't work well enough, for reasons i/nobody can be bothered to debug, and besides, new ones will prolly constantly pop up. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: from what i hear lisp is "already standardized". i personally am not terribly persuaded by this claim, but will entertain it on a technical basis as the cases may come. who knows, maybe gabriel was right and it is. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2016 07:13:15; phf: i don't imagine it matters at the moment, can always shuffle things
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417192 <<< current shiva is two steps away from even ~beginning~ the process of standardization. people with lisp experience will supply common but ultimately inconsequential conventions (hyphens plox!), but in general speaking, shiva's usage and lisp's general lack of practical usage or utility means that our work here will actually standardize LISP just as much as bitco ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: ing parts than replacing by conceptual unit, which is why it's more apt to be contemplated) and will soon overwhelm any "easier" benefits early on.
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2016 05:45:17; asciilifeform: it is to be amputated ~whole~. no motherfucking stumps.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417175 << i support this. the problem with the "easier" approach of "we don't cut whole parts but arbitrary fragments" is that now you not only baked in the fragmentator, which becomes one of your dependencies, but also have to keep track of arbitrary fragments, which are numerous (this is why replacing one file at a time, while dubious, is at least not involving MORE mov ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417150 << there is no seession! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: Оборонно-массовая и патриотическая работа, ie what the whores (see То знай: за честь должна считать Знакомство юнкерского хуя!) and their litter does. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2016 04:57:39; assbot: Mizzou Stream Team to hold outdoor clean-up events at local waterways – The Maneater ... ( http://bit.ly/1oGNd64 )
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417147 <<< this is so much like the "munca patriotica" bs you wouldn't believe. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: !up TheRealJohnGalt are we through the netsplit and can i yell at you about your flapping connection yet?
ben_vulpes really to bed now
ben_vulpes: sing songs from mary poppins while reading gpg-grams to defeat the high-fidelity microphones!
ben_vulpes: mirror terminal output and learn to read backwards!
punkman: I'll take two
punkman: ben_vulpes: second part isn't needed, sasl happens before the client can join anything
AaronvanW: punkman ben_vulpes: will look into that, thanks
ben_vulpes: AaronvanW: you want "sasl", and to instruct whatever client you're using to not join channels until it's done swizzling the sasl
punkman: AaronvanW: use SASL to login
ben_vulpes: phf, asciilifeform: this is a real treat to work with
AaronvanW: ben_vulpes: ah. any way to fix that?
ben_vulpes: anyways, i'm off to bed. thanks punkman.
ben_vulpes: why not just throw nGPL into WriteSetting?
ben_vulpes: assigns nLP equivalent to nGPL and throws it down the chute?
ben_vulpes: punkman: yeah, a bool there doesn't make sense because it's used as a number of processors.
punkman: notice the single =
ben_vulpes: the others are all trivial
ben_vulpes: get-difficulty is a straight rip of the c from bitcoinrpc.cpp
ben_vulpes: well thanks to phf's fine work, i implemented get-connection-count, get-difficulty, get-generate, and am going to sleep on set-generate.
ben_vulpes: a casual browsing of the source suggests to me that the processor limiting could be excised. thoughts?
ben_vulpes: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp#0266 << what does it mean for `nLimitProcessors = nGenProcLimit` to be passed as the argument to WriteSetting? an implicit test returning a boolean doesn't make much sense to me as a value for nLimitProcessors
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punkman: not a bad idea to write down reading notes and share on mailing list ☟︎
ben_vulpes: what i appear to have forgotten since the last time i looked into this pit of snakes is that it calls all of the rpc functions in turn to construct the help list. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: and yes, yes. the whole rpc wart must be frozen with nitrogen and smashed into a zillion pieces.
punkman: I remember when I first saw "Help text is returned in an exception"
ben_vulpes: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp#0119 << well this will have to go
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punkman: for the kids http://bookzz.org/book/2474909/210e75
punkman: 10 year inquiry that results in nothing in particular ☟︎
punkman: nope, the old case
ben_vulpes: punkman: wasn't that forever ago? or is there a new case
punkman: "the release of the final report of a lengthy public inquiry into Mr. Litvinenko’s death." ☟︎
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assbot: Logged on 27-02-2016 16:58:25; asciilifeform: either that or i finally got fed the polonium.
ben_vulpes: now to wire in compile-and-load-file
ben_vulpes: apropos does a thing
phf: ooh ooh, try apropos! also meta-tab completion!
ben_vulpes: phf: get to bed before i bog you down in emacs config arcana
phf: ben_vulpes: you can now control the universe
punkman: mircea_popescu: .. supercute de-windows-ization : http://logs.minigame.bz/2016-02-27.log.html#t23:38:19 << I like the command line sure, but I find editing text without a mouse a hassle, same for trying to remember 1000 keyboard shortcuts for each of 100 apps, or having to spend 10 minutes to figure out obscure cli options to use something once. ☟︎
phf: did you pass the ./bitcoind a -swank argument?
phf: if you just connect to 1336 with netcat, and type a bunch of random letters, does it bail with "wrong length" error?
ben_vulpes: ^^ to haunt your dreams
ben_vulpes: Connecting to Swank on port 1336..
phf: but line numbers better match the vpatch lines, that requires patching the vpatch parser, so i'm just going to sleep instead :)
punkman: phf, maybe better to do line numbers and use line ranges in the link anchor
ben_vulpes: age trumps r/w load eh?
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assbot: Pope Francis (@Pontifex) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1ph8dRn )
punkman: oh he has a twitter account, that's great https://twitter.com/pontifex
punkman: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcQqFk1XIAAJzhr.jpg:large "Pope Francis meets Instagram CEO at the Vatican to discuss "power of images.""
ben_vulpes: full of bad ideas tonight, me
phf: signers is misguided, shows everyone participating in the press ☟︎
ben_vulpes: also signers line i think is broken
ben_vulpes: phf: consider linking to sigs from patch page?
ben_vulpes: what a time to be alive
ben_vulpes: ^^ natively on the mac
ben_vulpes: you people seem to think that i actually handle the rods myself
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2016 22:30:16; phf: he can get me a pm at $150/hr and two junior devs $50/hr each in no time. selection will work by next iteration, but will depend on jquery and react
phf: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=31-01-2016#1391942 << previous take on this problem ☝︎
ben_vulpes: you'll probably want to re-grease the decompilator with some euros while we're at it, that never hurts and can frequently improve end-user experience
ben_vulpes: i recommend a thorough course of benjies, piped straight through the developer funnel. ☟︎
ben_vulpes kicks tires, spits
phf: maybe a skilled fullstack developer could fix the selection widget for us