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mircea_popescu: so it's not really
a "should have". more like
a, that'd have been retrospectively the correct path
mircea_popescu: sure, there's exception. too much molasses around them to have
a chance.
mircea_popescu: if you make
a huge company "producing" "art" you will fail too
jcpham: kodak is
a much more interesting beast
nyRednek: mircea_popescu, they produced
a lot of film and cameras...
dub: or is it
a case of sun fucked up one too many times and are written off
mircea_popescu: really sad to watch (from
a safe distance, blesfully) what's happening to that country.
mircea_popescu: right, it works in practice as
a sort of soviet commisariat of the people's soviets bla bla
nyRednek: mircea_popescu, OSA is
a large and wide-reaching organization...this is very much their business
nyRednek: smickles, i'm thinking it's more the liberty thing...the state is depriving you of liberty by snooping on you(privacy is
a safeguard of free speech)
mircea_popescu: but there's still
a version of precedent used, just... differently.
smickles: and
a cigar would be in order if all goes well
nyRednek: smickles, i've done it
a few times, you have my sympathies
smickles: mircea_popescu: then law will grow at
a rate = to compression tech
nyRednek: mircea_popescu, maybe not fifty pages, but less than
a full library of volumes
mircea_popescu: that's how i'd have it. you want to make
a new law ? gotta wipe old one first, make space.
jcpham: i've never made
a death threat that i know of
smickles: jcpham: well, as I understand it, you can threaten to kill all you want if its
a joke, but proving it's
a joke can be tricky in some situations
jcpham: but what if i have down's syndrome and i'm not actually
a threat
nyRednek: smickles, that was
a stupid law that apportioned activity that was already covered by the penal code
jcpham: like if i threaten to kill you i need to own
a weapon first?
nyRednek: same as spitting on
a cop...assault
smickles: dub: he claimed that I had
a tail light out, it wasn't true, so he gave me an 'unwritten warning'
smickles: now i'm spooked by the last time I was pulled over, and didn't say
a wort to the cop
nyRednek: smickles, also, in indiana, cops don't have to knock and announce before executing
a search warrant
mircea_popescu: i guess that's why they like
a lot of them "low information voters" around.
smickles: you don't answer, your're
a murder
smickles: boils down to
a cop saying "hey, your not under arrest, but is it possible that those shotgunshells at the murder scene are yours?"
Bugpowder_: he made
a tool that allows others to run
a site
mircea_popescu: i imagine
a large part of the problem was that bvps suddenly seemed very small, in btc terms
mod6: right. everytime i have
a question or something, you're there pretty quick to help
mod6: ahh. he should have just used PUSH and he could have avoided
a lot of issues
mircea_popescu: company may be acquired, sure, but as
a corp merger or somesuch.
mircea_popescu: you make
a company, it's yours. shareholders can't kick you out. you can't "sell" your interest.
dub: I doubt he gives
a shit
arij: He can easily verify his identity and get
a new gpg key
gribble: (eauth <nick>) -- Initiate authentication for user <nick>. You must have registered
a GPG key with the bot for this to work. You will be given
a link to
a page which contains
a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes.
mircea_popescu: Rent gouging, Unlawfully concealing
a will, Unlawful possession of personal identification information in the second degree
mircea_popescu: ny has some funny class e felonies. "Promoting
a suicide attempt". "Stalking in the second degree". "Abortion in the second degree". "Female genital mutilation". "Substitution of children". "Computer trespass". "Welfare fraud in the fourth degree".
Bugpowder_: just like to see the last gasp of
a dying creature
mircea_popescu: That brings me to the final point. I initially intended to teach the community
a lesson about trust, I did not expect anyone to really take the bets and thus I did not expect to keep any profits. As the bets grew though, I was tempted with greed and I fell into
a trap.
mircea_popescu: in six months muppets
a la eskimoblob will be all pleased to interact and exchange opinions and pats on the back
nyRednek: smickles, i was assuming it was
a federal law, as well, due to the interstate nature of the order
dub: since when has law been
a basis for the justice system anyway?
nyRednek: yeah, dumping s.dice through my proxy, as well...give it an hour and it'll be
a little lower
mircea_popescu: threatening
a honest citizen with unwarranted prosecution if he refuses to break the law will be
a tough sell as good faith.
mircea_popescu: not particularly hard
a thing to do, but certainly exhilirating in any case.
nyRednek:
a guy was arrested recently who just sold software to gambling sites
nyRednek: smickles, if an american promotes online gambling in any way, it is
a federal offense
nyRednek: smickles, promoting gambling is
a federal offense
smickles: really? satoshidice isn't
a 'merican company?
nyRednek: Luke-Jr, not
a question of if, but when
Luke-Jr: Bugpowder: it's more of an inevitable certainty than
a risk, really
mircea_popescu: i think the problem with btc finance is that people have
a crazy time curve.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder no, seriously, it looks totally like
a ponzi
nyRednek: Buglouse, again, looks like
a ponzi started paying
Luke-Jr: Bugpowder: just because it's in
a contract doesn't make it legal
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder i imagine he can't now, seeing how he wasn't there at the time and prolly doesn't have
a copy.
nyRednek: mircea_popescu, well, what i just saw described is securities fraud...one wouldn't need to find
a serpentine lawyer to deal with such
nyRednek: mircea_popescu, were you to appear in manhattan, the argument whether
a case exists would become more interesting
Bugpowder: well they don't provide
a better payout
mircea_popescu: nyRednek prosecution is going to be nigh on impossible for the relatively simple reason that there's not
a case.
nyRednek: Ukto, not exactly, just
a little normative speech
nyRednek: jcpham, can we /msg for
a moment?
mircea_popescu: Namworld i doubt anyone would use the legal system seeing how there's not enough to pay for
a lawyer's initial retainer in dispute.
Luke-Jr: "I'll rob
a bank. If they don't like it, they can sue."
Ukto: they just listen to two sides and make
a decision
Ukto: here,
a JP court does not follow technicallities. the judges are not lawyers.
Luke-Jr:
a court that rules on
a technicality is an incompetent court
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: whatever, if you claim there's
a mistake in what I said, then explain
Bugpowder: There has been some organic growth in
a varitey of mini-whales though
Luke-Jr: EskimoBob: as I understand it, mircea_popescu created
a phony stock to resell GLBSE shares, then forfeited those GLBSE shares for some reason at the expense of all the MPEX phony-stock holder
mircea_popescu: On the positive side, dollar denominated securities of all sorts are slated to raise indefinitely, much past the point where
a freshly printed thousand dollar bill won’t suffice to pay for one of the two freshly baked loaves of bread in all of Manhattan.
jcpham: i remember they were 90 days late because i was in #eligius when luke-jr had
a dev unit
jcpham: but the short story is that i do not believe mircea_popescu to be
a scammer
jcpham: i sit in this channel for
a reason though