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Chaang-Noi: i can not accept the liability nefario had when he sold the assets
Ukto: i thoguth the code was to show proof of ownership ?
Ukto: now i am mroe confused
Chaang-Noi: iv been told i cant accept the code system anyway.
Ukto: sucks, i expected him to take longer
copumpkin: I don't think he's malicious, but I'm not too sure about the second half
Chaang-Noi: sadly right now i can not trust nefario
Ukto: i agree with copumpkin: with proper care, there would be no dupes
Chaang-Noi: yeah, i can not do this without trusting nefario
copumpkin: Chaang-Noi: I guess you're just supposed to keep a spreadsheet or a file somewhere with a list of the ones you've paid?
Chaang-Noi: how do i know that the code holder really had the asset?
Ukto: thats waht I had been planning
copumpkin: I guess you're expected to keep records
Chaang-Noi: i was e-mailed a bunch of random numbers
Chaang-Noi: i have no way to know what code has been used twice, what one is real, its soo crazy
copumpkin: I still would prefer him not to get in trouble though
Chaang-Noi: why did i get poked?
Ukto: I havent shown you yet. :P
copumpkin: I feel like he would've done a lot better if he'd had professional advice
Ukto: pigeons: I have a suggestion for alternative
Chaang-Noi: well copumpkin my assets were delisted. i was then givien a bunch of random numbers, the share holderes were then mailed a matching code. and we are supposed to meet up somehow and trade assets for codes.
femtotube: Chaang-Noi: I also had a code to get something from your securities
copumpkin: Chaang-Noi: nah, I'm way behind the times
copumpkin: anyway, I'd much prefer if nobody got screwed over this, especially people I like
femtotube: btw, I am in attempting to set up a OT server to see how it works and can it be used to pick up where GLBSE left off
Chaang-Noi: yes copumpkin, that is what i was told to and one of the meany reasons why i should not accept a code system.
copumpkin: Chaang-Noi: I've heard other people saying legal advice they received suggested that issuers (even in the US) would be shielded by the fact that nefario acted as more than an exchange, and he would thus be on the hook for the issuance of bad securities
Chaang-Noi: if nefario does what i think he will. he however might not so we will just have to wait.
Chaang-Noi: i was told he was, and i guess he still might.
Chaang-Noi: and i thought he was going to do something like that
Chaang-Noi: if i take the code system and the feds arrest me i can say i dont know where it went and cuz i trusted some guy who was made at me named nefario...
Chaang-Noi: if the feds arrest me and ask me where the money went i can say pirate and i can say why.
Chaang-Noi: i know who pirate is,
Chaang-Noi: also i did aml pirate
Chaang-Noi: i got a lawyer since then.
Chaang-Noi: i know, it sucks. i had hoped nefario would be able to come up with a better option
Chaang-Noi: as far as i know he is giving these codes to terrorists and is using me to launder money.
pigeons: i see
Chaang-Noi: i can only accept the code system if nefario will take the liability for it going bad and BS aml stuff.
Chaang-Noi: i have no suggestions.
Chaang-Noi: when i say slow down i mean stop.
Chaang-Noi: i agree pigeons but i expect things will slow down. iv already been told i cant accept the code system glbse gave me
Azelphur: my asset is still worth as much as I paid for it \o/
mircea_popescu: ou know that if I can actually consider paying the fine myself, then the fine is too small.
mircea_popescu: those were bought i think
kakobrekla: >> 14:59.30 ( mircea_popescu ) I am meeting with my lawyer
mircea_popescu: rdponticelli o rly, i dunno...
rdponticelli: Why I believe all that money is headed directly into an exchange?
rg: i vote that we just let rg have all our money
mircea_popescu: After the legal issues are sorted out, my main concern is how to create one that is not centralized, and not run by a small group of people. I am already working with some top notch security and hosting people,
mircea_popescu: I am meeting with my lawyers this week to investigate the legality of operating a bitcoin stock exchange, or something along those lines, in Canada. I deal with a global law firm that does a lot of work in the financial sector, so they should be able to provide me with a solid footing.
kakobrekla: lucky i paid for my ssds at 13 usd
rdponticelli: Ok, I can use it
mircea_popescu: i'll leave 1 btc for all the rest of you to split up
mircea_popescu: i buy a little more :D
mircea_popescu: heck, let it go to two for all i care.
mircea_popescu: i guess it's a blessed week.
Chaaang-Noi: i could see 7.5 being retested
kakobrekla: i dont get it
mircea_popescu: There has been [for awhile] a fairly reasonable service from MtGox lately as far as withdrawals were going. Is it going back to trouble mode? I have week worth of withdrawals, all don't move.
mircea_popescu: "I've decided Nefario will get a scammer tag for this. "
Chaaang-Noi: i have a lap top that works fine other than the scree will light up only about 2% of normal, just enough to know it is there... this is pretty much fucked right?
mircea_popescu: he should have saiod "im selling because nefario will likely crash this thing and i'd rather get something than nothing"
Chaaang-Noi: i kinda trust him, i doubt he expected nefario to go bat shit crazy
Chaaang-Noi: id sell too if i were theymos
mircea_popescu: but i'm sure once pirate starts to pay people...
rdponticelli: I drop that idea when I saw Multiplicity
Diablo-D3: even I failed at getting this shit rolling
rdponticelli: Well, now I'm depressed
Diablo-D3: I wonder if we can claim this is our great depression
mircea_popescu: but anyway. i offered to buy glbbq back in may. ofcourse then they were still into this "we know shit" mode.
grubles: i heard it
mircea_popescu: ya, i took it down to bring v2.0
mircea_popescu: i'm just being an asshole.
copumpkin: I don't see it
mircea_popescu: so, am i the only person on btc interwebz who actually sued gubernment and won ?
Diablo-D3: I need some sort of multidimensional popcorn machine
mircea_popescu: tho it'd be an countertragedy of commonds i guess
B0g4r7: Funny, a guy I know went to law school to study and then practice internet law.
dub: guess I should watch this gangam video or whatever
B0g4r7: Wish I could find that now.
B0g4r7: Even had a retail boxed copy I think.
B0g4r7: Yea, I jumped into linux land around 1998ish. Redhat 5.2 baby.
jurov: i'll stay with CP/M, thanks
Diablo-D3: I started linux when debian had potato unstable, and slink was released in 1999
jurov: i'm trying to set up jackd to use instead of my hearing aids
jurov: i started in '99, so don't remember much before
Diablo-D3: which was a little before I started using linux
Diablo-D3: I mean, hell, the first 2.0 came out like 16 years ago
jurov: yeah, i forgot my lil' server with linux 0.9 and irc bouncer is 15yrs running
jurov: lol... did not realize, but i did return to irc after 15yrs
Diablo-D3: I used to kline people for away.
rg: i used to do nick-afk
rg: [18:13] <kakobrekla> jurov, may i suggest disabling the away thingy
Diablo-D3: PsychoticBoy: I dont really blame him
Diablo-D3: PsychoticBoy: so I think usagi just ragequit forever
kakobrekla: jurov, may i suggest disabling the away thingy
boonies4u: I just realized I was using the wrong name
boonies4u-Andro: i know he could have put in any reason for quitting
matthewh3: I think if a I2p exchange popped up and used hybrid wallets like blockchain.info then users wouldn't have to worry about the OP's running off with all the coins. If an I2p exchange popped like the GLBSE, Cryptostocks or LTC-Global how could users trust them. I know The Silk Road as been operational for a while but it could just disappear anytime?