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mjr_: i have not, i will take
a look at it
mjr_: ok maybe
a silly question but i don't think it was in the faq (i'll double check) is there
a way to see level II info for the stocks?
mjr_: cool stuff, was that
a market order that took
a few levels?
mjr_: about how maybe strong encryption should have been classified as
a weapon so it'd be protected by the second amendment lol
mjr_: there was
a great xkcd about that...
mod6: I was going to add though, it is great to have
a way to submit orders right through the textarea with the submit button. I used to do
a lot of orders by hand until I wrote the perl thingy.
mircea_popescu: no but in seriousness, they're pretty smart guys, survived the recent doublespend attacks that wiped
a few of the betting people
maximian: the whole thing is what, two guys and
a server?
mod6: I mean, it exists as
a way for people to go, "Oh hey! It exists!"
mod6: I've never quite understood why people feel so but hurt about the website. I mean, its really just
a formality. It doesn't even need
a website! lol
mod6: ate up
a bunch of time too, now the code reads in the private key, will ask the user for
a passphrase to encrypt the private key with, then that will be used to decrypt when needed to read in the priavte key upon launch. this will be
a different passphrase that is used with the PGP private key itself, of course.
mod6: pizzaman1337: yup, i've implemented
a way... i started off trying to do some other ways, like
a keystore, etc.. but that didn't work out.
mod6: but.. its kinda rough with some of the encryption stuff - and making sure someones private key is secure is
a challenge.
mircea_popescu: nobody can get into mpex to the tune of 10 ppl
a day or some shit
smickles: JohnGalt49ers: like via private key transfer? (what I was talking about is more complicated, and
a lot more secure than that. I'll see if i can find the link)
mircea_popescu: course the hidden thing in all of this is that if mpex scales worth
a shit everyone can just do push transactions.
mircea_popescu: <jurov> smickles, not really. that would be akin to city transportation not giving
a fuck about security of chip cards << which they don't.
smickles: there are
a lot of details, but you can safely accept the small bit part without any confirmation at all
smickles: basically, you can create at tx which is for
a significant amount (say 10 btc), but only gets approved in small in small bits, (say .1 btc)
mjr_: thanks smickles, i thought that was
a very nice response
jurov: smickles, not really. that would be akin to city transportation not giving
a fuck about security of chip cards
smickles: < mjr_> in instances like takin
a cab or paying for fast food << in situations like that, some feel it is save enough to accept 0 confirmations
mjr_: in instances like takin
a cab or paying for fast food
mircea_popescu: but there's
a BIG lesson in here. think about it : i have technoklogy that allows me to do what they do much cheaper.
mjr_:
a lot easier than managing vpn's
mjr_: i think it is
a clean and very secure system
mircea_popescu: so now. if i want to talk to all the users on mpex, i could just post
a long file, made out of bits, each encrypted with
a user's signature.
mjr_: is this how VPN would work too? unless i'm mistaken, i believe
a VPN is encrypted (or can be)
mjr_: ie PGP works for
a point to point conversation, but if you want to make it routable you have to provide more info to the network (not actual content, but destination etc)
mjr_: mirceau_popescu: upon furthor thought, i think that what you have set up IS the equivalent of
a circuit...ie. you can verify communication between you and someone else, but i don't think it could work as
a broadcast type message (i may be wrong) if i wanted it to take multiple hops, i would be vulnerable to MitM and phishing right?
smickles: mircea's
a bit of
a word anarchist sometimes
mjr_: within bitcoin, there are only
a few legit publicly traded companies you can buy all of them yourself
smickles: and mircea felt that taking action to acquire
a new asset when the original one dissolved was outside of the f.gigga.etf contract
mjr_:
a lot of current websites are very much "form over function"
mjr_: that i've read on
a forum
smickles: i think there are
a few things which use the m-of-n signature txns, but i've not seen any of the contracts or conditional sends
mjr_: that could be used to form
a trust service (maybe against the founding goals, but still, could be useful)
smickles: malaimo: if you want instant withdrawal, used
a broker who provides that
mjr_: set up
a table on the docks and hand out money
mjr_: because it would be awesome to be able to contribute to
a business that you are invested in...signing up helps your actual investment
mircea_popescu: mjr_ if you mean accounted for as in, passed ti shareholders, yes. there's
a special line in the monthly reports.
mjr_: two questions, are signup fees accounted for in mpoe, and can you transfer your positions from
a broker back to mpex
gribble: The bot responds when you start
a line with the ! character.
A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for
a list of help topics and documentation:
http://gribble.sourceforge.net/ mircea_popescu: i like how that thing is getting upvoted into
a frenzy
mjr_: hmmm....you have to negotiate that with the company, and that is usually on
a company level of interaction
mjr_: so he would have
a bot place orders at
a very specific time, and then in chicago have orders in place to take advantage of the move he just caused
mircea_popescu: ya well give me an example of
a hft getting crossed by retail lol.
mjr_: jurov: and if he was against HFT why would he provide API? it's practically the only use for it, besides building
a pretty front end (although maybe you mean
a slow bot?)
mircea_popescu: no argument that this is kinda hard, but not so sure it's for
a good reason
mircea_popescu: now, fiber is slightly bettert as
a secure conduit, esp if you have quantum verifiers
mjr_: for example, if you want arca market data...you have to get it from somewhere and typically you do that through
a circuit
mjr_: host in
a data center where you can cross connect to other people
mjr_: but typically it is
a /29 subnet mask...only 2 addresses anyway
mjr_: everything goes through
a physical point to point connection
mjr_: that makes sense then that i didn't understand it...i have to deal with databases
a lot and they can be
a pain
evoorhees: not sure I'd want to advocate it as
a mixer
mircea_popescu: possibly make it so that inputs sent to that addy are NEVER 0conf'd and as
a result they never receive back anything based on the same inputs.
mircea_popescu: evoorhees do you suppose something like
a 100% win address for sdice would be
a good idea ?
mjr_: i'm not finished with it, but i think so far that it is very interesting when looked at through the eyes of
a bitcoiner
mjr_: that book touches
a lot of interesting points, but i think it's tamest assertion is that
a country is only as strong as it's monetary supply
mjr_: i think snowcrash is going to be somewhat of
a prophecy at this point lol
mircea_popescu: this is
a valid criticism, it will. as long as they don't want this to happen, bitcoin is and will remain
a bad thing.
mircea_popescu: in fact, most people who spend
a lot of time on forums aren't.
mjr_: that's the sad part is that they know more about it than
a lot of users
mjr_: well, its overly simplified, but yes, if btc hits
a thousand or even 40 we objectively chose correctly
mircea_popescu: petaflops is really
a measure of floating point computation
ShaTwo: They got my attention
a few months back...
mjr_: so great to see such
a success story...and i think the future looks even brighter
mircea_popescu: S.DICE paid
a total dividend of 2`000.73731948 BTC to 10`000`000 outstanding shares. #dividend #bitcoin #btc #stocks
dust-otc: does anyone want to make
a scam accusation thread against imsaguy?