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mjr_: mostly bored, and this is the most interesting thing i have found in
a very long time
mjr_: but if i can find
a way to get btc tomorrow i am going to
mjr_: vmware can literally not miss
a ping if
a server blows up
mjr_: i'm surprised that mt. gox at least doesn't have
a cluster
jurov: bitcoincharts down now for
a change
mjr__: i guess you can get your own stuff with
a statjson
mjr_: lol, i care
a LOT about anonymity
jurov: yes,
a nested dict
mjr_: it spits out
a python object?
smickles: oh, i forked it and played with the code
a little
mjr_: i really like you guys code
a lot
pizzaman1337: mircea_popescu: is there
a public-facing API that streams MPEX trades?
Bowjov: I'll put it at
a sidewalk so that not too many people will see it
Bowjov: when my buddies are free. ill get on his car and record it from
a distance
mjr_: jurov: that would be one nice thing about
a trading platform...you wouldn't have to type so many nubmers
mjr_: oh never mind i think i get it...
a microbitcoin would be the equivalent of
a dollar (2 decimals)
mjr_: and i think humans are meant to think in integers...if i said give me
a hundred million satoshis, and you said ok i'm gonna charge you 500 for the transfer or 50,000 for the transfer it's
a lot easier for me to make sense of the terms, cuz they are the same way you would say them
mjr_: is
a lot easier than 0.00724159
mjr_: decimals get way too hard to remember cuz we don't really have
a great way to say numbers like that
mjr_: as well as
a positions window
smickles: lol, ok, time to start coding
a backup way to get the overall market 24hvwap
mjr_: i was talking to jurov of how cool it'd be to build
a really nice browser based trading platform
mjr_: but i think using tuples of numbers ie. int + float could be
a possible solution
mjr_: but just
a quick glance
mjr_: and i like that style
a lot
mjr_: (almost definitely is actually more accurate, except for
a few loopholes)
awkorama: as
a member of pirate party, I would know
mjr_: this is
a huge debate
mjr_: again it is
a judgement call
mjr_: or email it to someone secure so they have
a record of it being emailed at
a certain date and time
mjr_: i would say that
a picture with
a timestamp, or something like that is proof as well
smickles:
a public hash of the idea, and proof you talked to the scammer.
mjr_: but if he says he was "inspired by" or it was "similar to something i was already doing"...that is what makes it
a gray area
mjr_: so they added
a feature to check if you took
a screenshot
mjr_: because you can take
a screenshot
awkorama: ok.. I write my business idea in
a message
mjr_: and that is the end of the scope of encryption...i have been thinking about that
a lot lately, the inability to create an unrepeatable message
smickles: mjr_: you could set up the contract in such
a way that it's enforceable 'IRL'
smickles: awkorama: either with
a wink and
a nod, or contracts
mjr_: yeah...kinda...i meant more like tcp multicast ie. i can join
a group
awkorama: and now for something completely different, is there
a concept of NDA in bitcoin world at all ?
awkorama: you reckon they would have
a different source than me ?
smickles: awkorama: maybe have
a redundency with bitcoincharts' stream (if they still have it)
awkorama: as in, if I don't receive
a websocket update in 10 seconds, hammer the REST ?
Bowjov: it goes to theymos' personal fund.. in which he replenishes those btc he sold at
a rate of 1k btc per dollar
mircea_popescu: Anduck
a better question is, why doesn't the forum use some of that 5k btc it has collected over the years
awkorama: I need
a live(ish) stream of ticker
mjr_: thats what i was thinking...but i think it has
a fallback too...
smickles: hey mjr_, wanna borrow
a crapload of s.dice to arb with :)
topace: the original thought process of making the units convertable, was tha tpeople might start buying on havelock with
a low initial investment, and build up to the point that it'd be worth it for them to stop paying our 5% management fee and move their units direct to mpex
mircea_popescu: awww i remember the good old days when there were only
a few new accts
a day ;/
topace: but again, for
a fairly large, per-trasnaction fee, becuase that would be all manual on my side
topace: Units of the fund ARE convertible to shares on MPEX at 1 unit = 100 shares PUSHED to your MPEX account for
a fixed fee of 10 BTC per transfer (fee subject to change). Contact us by email to initiate
a transfer.
smickles: it's probably because havelock is trading based on
a 'personal' inventory
mircea_popescu: very theoretically speaking there's
a 0.00086 per share arb oportunity between the two atm
mjr_: i think that is
a great business model, and all orders are denominated in lots of 100 right?
topace: mjr_: yes, but
a lot of the people trading on havelock dont want to
a) pay the mpex registration fee, and b) mess with gpg
smickles: the sdice on havelock is essential
a collective investment scheme
smickles: i dun think so, havelock is
a whole other platform
mjr_: i would buy S.DICE at .00724519
a share
mjr_: so if you want to get into
a market maker position, you have to hope you are there at the right time
smickles: there are some people who buy/sell thousands at
a time over
a range
mjr_: i mean that is
a range of calls and puts somewhere around the current price
mjr_: that is
a nice way of doing it
Namworld: [16:14] <mircea_popescu> sign
a gpg contract, do
a push,
mjr_: oh but yeah that is fixed, if you are going to be
a trader, and i paid
a one time/ or monthly fee
mjr_: spread jumped
a ton
mjr_: jurov: why would
a fixed percentage fee affect size of orders? you gain nothing by increasing your volume
mjr_: ooh, i just thought about designing
a risk monitor
mjr_: the options can be
a bit trickier cuz they seem to be pretty thinly traded
mjr_: and as i said, since my goal is to acquire
a long position over time at the lowest possible price...
mjr_: and its
a fixed cost
mjr_: it could greatly simplify user interface, make
a more robust system that is more secure, and easier to maintain, less vulnerable to single point of failure problems
mjr_: so that way if you have
a small order, i am reasonably sure i'd get filled after you for one satoshi more
mjr_: edit: i mean
a browser based trading platform
mjr_: which i think would be PERFECT for
a web based trading platform
mjr_: yeah i figured it'd be easiest to use web so i wouldn't have to actually create charts in
a desktop app
mjr_: but i like twisted
a lot
mjr_: which i think would be
a huge value to the trading community
mjr_: i mean, IDEALLY you could then use
a lot of those pieces to build either
a web based trading platform or an actual desktop application
mjr_: i would have to write the position monitor, and i would have to write
a driver so my orders could be translated to mpex orders
mjr_: after that point, it would only be creating
a position monitor, and then linking to
a driver for pympex (or something at coinbr)
mjr_: python is easy and it is
a nice way to try
a PoC
Bugpowder: it will heat up in
a week or two though
Bugpowder: smickles trading
a few here and there
mjr_: its just that over the rest of the year, everyone sending market order will give me
a tiny bit of money
mjr_: i am gonna give my little guy only
a little money to play with
mjr_: couldn't you set
a limit on order number through api?
mjr_: also the ultimate goal is not so much to scalp and front run, but rather build up as long
a position as i can for the least money
mjr_: it doesn't seem like it is moving
a ton, but of course, if i get filled on one end, i cancel orders and reassess