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mircea_popescu: dude i want to know if satoshi DID THIS ON PURPOSE
BTC-Mining: I don't see sending a fee with those zero value coins as a problem at all
Luke-Jr: I don't think any miners accept 0-value coins without a fee right now
BTC-Mining: Although I guess we could consider that a share donated to the whole bitcoin economy at large...
mircea_popescu: i like jgarzik more and more.
mircea_popescu: i know about that.
mircea_popescu: i wanna run an idea by you.
mircea_popescu: i think someone should run this by gavin and gang.
mircea_popescu: o o o i see what you mean!
BTC-Mining: I suppose the blockchain could support permanent tainting of coins by the current holders if signed by the holder's address
mircea_popescu: is the biggest hole i can see right now.
cellofellow: 1 coder-size jobs don't usually need much funding, but bigger ones would need to be, so once your ideas are somewhat concrete, you know what to do I guess.
matthewh3: I've already put up a bounty for continued coloured coins development
BTC-Mining: matthewh, no colored bitcoins. I don't like the idea of mixing bitcoins with shares.
cellofellow: then fincance a coder I guess :)
mircea_popescu: i'm no coder
mircea_popescu: o god i think i came a little.
BTC-Mining: that's what we need. I'm pretty sure the sharecoin concept was already proposed however.
cellofellow: I'm assuming you don't mean a peer to peer BTC-to-USD exchange? (That'd be cool, though. Not sure how it'd work though.)
BTC-Mining: I'm in favor of each company issuing their own centrally managed blockchain and leaving Bitcoins alone.
mircea_popescu: if i thought the idea has any merit i could go in and dominate the lot of you lol.
BTC-Mining: Well, yeah. I find so too.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining so then i could color some active companie's coins with my own colors, arbitrarily
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining i was just envisaging a sort of ICANN mess for satoshi-colored property.
BTC-Mining: <mircea_popescu> otherwise i inject shareholders into my new company that have no relation to it (provided they kept their original PPT.A colored coins)
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining ya but i mean...
mircea_popescu: otherwise i inject shareholders into my new company that have no relation to it (provided they kept their original PPT.A colored coins)
BTC-Mining: Because if you have dead coins in your possession, you can retag them again for another company I guess.
mircea_popescu: can i use those satoshis for my new company ? no, i can not, they have to be dead forever.
matthewh3: read the threads I posted
BTC-Mining: I don't see that as a problem...
BTC-Mining: I can already see people accidentally spending them and people receiving random payments while holding said colored coins and being "wtf?"
BTC-Mining: I mean, you have a BTC address tied to asset holders, just use that for communication
BTC-Mining: I'd personally stay clear of any such option until there's convenient options for coloured coins.
mircea_popescu: There are other approaches, and the one I have taken is very simple, but it is a working solution (primitively duct-taped and glued together).
mircea_popescu: conceptually tho, i think shares should really work in 1k blocks. so you know, like 40 dollars for "traditional share"
mircea_popescu: i guess it's also very impopular, given the very particular ethos of the bitcoin community, but something being impopular doesn't make it any less sound.
Doffx: You and the girl understand whats going on with all these complicated investment strats, I certainly dont get them.
Doffx: I'm not attacking you either mircea_popescu because I listen to your advice when I find it valuable.
Doffx: I dont want to talk about what I Invest in.
Doffx: Ill be sitting pretty soon as this bullshit falls apart, provided I survive it.
Doffx: I invest, I dont have to invest in the bullshit markets to invest.
Doffx: Not because I dont think you have the best product.
Doffx: I dont think it will happen and Ill be honest here.
mircea_popescu: then, i talk about underwear, then 1.5mn shares sell
Doffx: I dunno the links you provided me just proves my point, she turns people away.
mircea_popescu: <Doffx> You have a chance to make Mpex the best thing out there I just dont think it will happen. <<
mircea_popescu: apparently i need to talk more about underwear.
copumpkin: I was gonna become a janitor
copumpkin: I'm thinking of maybe changing job
darkee: yea guess I'll wait and see until tomorrow, not like I can actually do anything about it for now anyway
copumpkin: I am known for being the most evil pumpkin in the land
BTC-Mining: Guess I was lucky, was amongst the first to be paid and actually got paid.
BTC-Mining: and by invest, I mean bet, not get shares
darkee: anyone else got an glbse email about an hour ago about restored funds w/o having received anything? kinda makes me wonder if I actually fucked up and gave a wrong btc address for the payout but it's too late to even see which address I put in -.-
jurov: i'm done with that discussion and fully satisfied.
Doffx: I'm not explaining that correctly, but she could really help people if she just went about it in a better way.
Doffx: I find her information useful at the same time she needs to tone it down.
mircea_popescu: i think i win plenty.
Doffx: I have, I find her rude, and yes I know shes right it her tone.
Doffx: You have a chance to make Mpex the best thing out there I just dont think it will happen.
Doffx: I told you dummies it was a scam is not very educating, " I told you so " In general usually just puts people off and shuts them down completely.
mircea_popescu: haha what exactly do i lose ?!
mircea_popescu: EskimoBob i educate with a whip.
dub: mircea_popescu: true true, I have a pm buddy that is currently contracted to a bank, as CIO
mircea_popescu: i actually think it is irresponsible as a business practice not to.
Doffx: I think your just seeing a lot of fallout from Pirate, and now Glbse.
mircea_popescu: yes, i fully intend to allienate most self-declared investors on internet forums.
PsychoticBoy: Am I everyone?
Doffx: I agree that’s a stupid argument. People want to have a voice, and if educated and or kept informed are usually easy to work with.
thestringpuller: EskimoBob can I pm you?
mircea_popescu: unlike the "i will pay you X from secret sources" a la obsi.
Doffx: As far as the investors go I dont really know how to answer that part.
jurov: i just morally won an reddit argument r/MPEx, hear me roar: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/11i5tz/trading_on_biggest_bitcoin_stock_exchange_now_easy/
mircea_popescu: and on it goes, but i won't bother with all the many countless ways glbse was UNDER the minimum conceivable standard.
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: I do not want to start any pissing contest here but whay do you think your exchange is any different than GLBSE (excluding the looks etc)
mircea_popescu: i don't appreciate the misguided attempt to turn that scandal into some sort of "oh, it's what it is"
EskimoBob: "33:56 thestringpuller | EskimoBob: lets take down Usagi rough shim up." - funny :) I think usagi is taking himself down at the moment. Maybe this is his exit "strategy" and he is going to announce how he feels insulted and leaves for good. A girlish exit lol
mircea_popescu: <Azelphur> the amount of scammers, I'd probably be happier on the regulated one for most things << what are you, retarded ?! seriously now.
mircea_popescu: thing was going to shit, the fact that i killed them back in may finally landed in their thick skulls, quick grab for as much money as possible ensued as part of the unwinding procedures.
mircea_popescu: copumpkin im not brain damaged, i'm brain damaging. world of difference :D
mircea_popescu: actually... i'm a project manager.
BTC-Mining: Oh, wait... I remember what they say: "Everyone in the US is a criminal since everything is illegal."
mircea_popescu: i'm much more worried about not pushing it hard enough.
mircea_popescu: i don't see an issue with going to jail b/c bitcoin.
BTC-Mining: Argh, I'm not butter!
BTC-Mining: I'm being spread on the interwebz!1!!1!!!
pigeons: yeah i knew i wasn't that clever
mircea_popescu: <BTC-Mining> [22:22] <copumpkin> http://thecriminallawyer.tumblr.com/post/19810672629/12-i-was-entrapped :)
pigeons: hmm, could have been me but probably not, i don't remember it. I like the comics a lot though
pigeons: oh did I? I don't actually read the things i paste
mircea_popescu: i imagine the russians muchly objected.
rdponticelli: Don't forget: I can't give it back, b/c bitcoins transactions are irreversible
rdponticelli: No, I have no idea
smickles: rdponticelli: do you remember where that came from? I want to source it
rdponticelli: But I found funny some arguments you can found around
rdponticelli: dub: yeah, I just read lightly about the case
dub: rdponticelli: bulanula was the first account I ignored, the final straw
thestringpuller: i'm your sister as a teen
copumpkin: I am your father