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nubbins`: all i see is mp and alf complaining loudly
that sturles' node shouldn't work
the way it does because it's improper
assbot: Logged on 07-03-2016 02:59:17; mircea_popescu: sturle's
theory fell apart upon examination in chan.
jurov: mircea_popescu:
to mpex pls
BingoBoingo: and gnashing and wailing, bargaining, depression, and finally acceptance. Also
touch of denial mixed in.
trinque settles in
to catch up on a weekend of l0gz
mircea_popescu: believe it or not IN FUCKING MARCH
the spanyards do not yet rightly know whether
that fucktard won or not
the december election.
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jurov: doh,
they are incredibly slow..
there is "allocation of seats" link but
they have not done it yet.
mircea_popescu: is
there a good source
to document how you convert from
these ?
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nubbins`: anyway. peace. asciilifeform feel free
to leave your particulars with gribble for me
nubbins`: if ever
there was an indication
that mp stopped giving a fuck about anything but spending
the usd he cashed his btc out into,
this is it
nubbins`: aaaand ftr i meant what i said about being relieved of duties, imagine sending a 17btc
tx out into
the wild and
then /sending
the same amount of money again from a different address/
nubbins`: seems pretty obvious
that in a huge backlog of
transactions, one of
them is going
to be
the lowest priority
nubbins`: sorry guys, anyone who
thinks MP's explanation makes more sense needs
their head checked at a
trauma hospital
jurov: So, w're back
to mp and alf being 80% i guess.
mircea_popescu: if i wanted
to
talk
to redditards i'd make a reddit account.
mircea_popescu: you'll be on my ignore list. if you actually have something
to say find a lord
to play
telephone, but ideally spare me.
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the crepidam.
☟︎ nubbins`: i
tried putting it in simplified english for you, but it didn't
take
nubbins`: "no, you don't get it, MY zero-fee
transaction should have
taken priority because reasons"
mircea_popescu: there's no "logical rebuttal". you have some facts, go write a
theory. maybe i'll bother reading it. seeing who it comes from, probably not.
that's all.
mircea_popescu: dude... seriously, stick
to printing or w/e it is you understand.
nubbins`: do you suppose maybe
there were other 0-fee high priority
transactions floating around at
that
time? hmm? check out a graph of
the mempool size
mircea_popescu: whatever. keep your ideas, i don't want
them nor do
they carry any value.
mircea_popescu: apparently
the way
the internet works [according
to idiots] is
that one guy
that knows about
things by virtue of being one of
the guys
that actually do
things describes some facts, and is now obliged
to entertain
the half-baked idiocy of any random opiner.
nubbins`: like
talking
to a bag of hammers
mircea_popescu: that made no sense.
try again using meaningful words
this
time.
nubbins`: because
there was a lineup for
the cheap seats because of
the mempool flood
mircea_popescu: so a1 blocked a2,
then a2 blocked a3
then a3 blocked a4 ?
mircea_popescu: the facts are
there, write your explanation for
them and spare me.
nubbins`: and nodes don't have
to keep
tx's "forever", we're
talking
two days max between rebroadcasts.
nubbins`: accepting but not advertising
them -- isn't
mircea_popescu: as opposed
to "here is what i opine - i know all about huffing glue because, practically speaking, it's what i do all day".
nubbins`: advertising 0-fee
tx's in a mempool flood is a DOS attack
☟︎ mircea_popescu: nubbins` we had
this
thread. make your own
theory, CROSSING ALL
THE POINTS.
mircea_popescu: nubbins`> all will be discarded because A1 is waiting for
the cheap seats << except
the part where
these nodes would also advertise it, which
they didn't do. and except for
the part where nodes
that keep
txn forever are am yth. and except for anything actually
to do with reality, as opposed
to some cartoon someone saw last year on
tedspeak or w/e.
nubbins`: you're sniffing glue if you
think a cartel withholding bitbet payouts is
the simplest explanation
mircea_popescu: but congrats on being
the nth lazy
thinker who has a simple
theory in his head, cut ~80% of
the facts or so
that fit it, and is ready
to reddit about
the matter.
nubbins`: ("you don't get
to say what
the logic is! &c")
nubbins`: how ya figure, because
the logic doesn't follow
nubbins`: i feel bad carrying on but
this is seriously
the highest lelevator i've ever been in
jurov: lmao. but
they could have pestered davout
to get much better price from his bot instead
danielpbarron: not people who want euros, so much as
they ~don't want~ bitcoin, and don't want
to
touch actual fiat
nubbins`: or, y'know, a cartel blowing
their cover by fucking with bitbet payouts.
danielpbarron: well it's pretty obvious
to me what caused
the insane prices. "divestment"
jurov: i am accepting
transferwise
jurov: <ad break>You could have got x.eur from me with only 2% fee over vwap and flipped
them at
these insane prices!</ad>
nubbins`: but if
three other high priority
taco lovers clog
their
toilets first, i'm waiting in line
jurov: mkay, flipped.
this ersatz marketmaking is quite ejoyable
danielpbarron: i don't see how a "mempool flood" should effect a high priority
transaction.. or was
the flooder sophisticated enough
to have created all
the inputs long ago so
that
they
too would be high priority?
jurov: whotf puts
these asks on x.eur
nubbins`: a 0-fee
tx during a mempool flood is like expecting
to hitch a free ride from
turkey
to macedonia
nubbins`: all will be discarded because A1 is waiting for
the cheap seats
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nubbins`: and since it's in
the queue, you can make as many As as you like
nubbins`: if
there's only so much space in a block for 0-fee
tx's, and
the mempool is overflowing, obviously it's gonna
take days for your 0-fee
tx
to get put into a block, even if everyone knows about it
jurov: is
that
tooo far fetched notion?
jurov: and miners haven't
touched it?
nubbins`: you know after
the fact, it
turns out
danielpbarron: i guess
this falls into
the "well what
the heck is
the protocol, oh right
there isn't one" category. How do you know a miner will choose a high fee
tx over a high priority
tx?
nubbins`: still gotta fight
through
the crowds
to get
to
the gate
nubbins`: nexus pass is not required if
there's no lineup at
the airport
nubbins`: sure, if
the mempool hadn't been olympic sized
danielpbarron: fee is not required if inputs are sufficiently old enough, which in
this case
they appear
to have been
nubbins`: whoever constructed A1 should be relieved of
their duties
nubbins`: "bitbet, where we don't have nine cents
to spare"
nubbins`: "bitbet, where payouts are literally
the lowest priority"
nubbins`: <mircea_popescu> does
this come with an absolute guarantee
that i am not responsible for anything past raw
tx, and if it never gets included, bettor is out
the money, because i will not under any circumstances repay it ? << lel better not stick with 0-fee
tx if you're gonna go
that route.
jurov: because on C mechine, succumbing
to various kinds of magic colored pointer unions is practical necessity.. so ada
type safety should help
jurov: but in
the course of
this, i got an idea, is
there a small lisp/scheme implemented in ada?
thestringpuller: "Using 21's bitnodes service, we determined
that 1037 classic nodes are hosted using Amazon's AWS. "
nubbins`: "really proud of klye for [selling
t-shirts calling himself a fuckup in an attempt
to recoup blistering losses from an earlier scam]"
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assbot: Logged on 06-03-2016 21:38:23; nubbins`: "The KeRanger application was signed with a valid Mac app development certificate;
therefore, it was able
to bypass Apple’s Gatekeeper protection."
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2016 21:29:36; nubbins`: asciilifeform PM mailing address, probably will cost 0.33 BTC
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