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davout: asciilifeform: a
transaction being relayed does not imply it will be mined by anyone
nubbins`: you must
then write a blog post
mircea_popescu: davout because one can connect
to it again and see what it says.
mircea_popescu: anyway, if anyone had anythong intelligent
to say
that got buried in
the spew, feel free
to restate. i'm not wading
through
that pile of idiocy.
nubbins`: because
two entities control most of
the mining, and it's absolutely retarded for
those same entities
to not have a similar amount of control over nodes?
davout: asciilifeform: i don't see how one could conclusively assert
that A1 has not been relayed by
the node one originally broadcast it
to
nubbins`: numbers aren't your strong suit, maybe stick
to doing
the dark andreas antonolololopous schtick, it's what you're good at
nubbins`: suppose i run
two nodes, one a member of Nk and one a member of Nm. As long as my nodes are running proper sanity checks on each other (i.e. passing
tx's between
them), which obviously
they should be because i'm not running SPV nodes, mp's "mathematical" argument falls apart at
the seams
nubbins`: i guffaw loudly at
the continued refusal
to discuss 17 btc bitbet fraud
mircea_popescu: which yes, on
the sheer strength of
the abundance and precision, "dang,
this better be a nightmare"
nubbins`: asciilifeform he spent all afternoon "napping" by
throwing
together some maths and deciding
to switch stories
mircea_popescu: let's just say
that i lifted
the rock and i saw every
type of heresy in
there.
mircea_popescu: anyway.
to my eyes
this is specifically and precisely said in
the qntra piece, but w/e, more passes never hurt anyone, i guess. except if
the passes are beatings or something.
mircea_popescu: the chief problem with
trying
to communicate
things is
that
there's always going
to be a set of idiots / lazy
thinkers who want a specific outcome out of
the conversation, and
then proceed
to parasitize it with
their half-assed sententious bullshit.
nubbins`: <+mircea_popescu>asciilifeform i seem
to recall he failed both
tests for continued lordship and was basically not on
the list of names
to be cleared because he asked not
to be. << memory failing you once again
mircea_popescu: and so no, one who
things "well
there's nodes, so it's a p2p network" is utterly flattering himself. no such
thing in bitcoin.
there's a supernode, and a bunch of whatevers.
assbot: Logged on 07-03-2016 22:49:27; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform suppose
there's nodes N1... Nn advertising
themselves on
the network. suppose you send
txn X
to all nodes Nk where k is divisible by 2, which has
the properties
that a) it would not be broadcast
to any further nodes, and b) it would prevent
transaction Y from being accepted in
the mempool. suppose you verify
that nodes Nk where k = 2i do not in fact advertise X. suppose you broadcast Y
assbot: Logged on 07-03-2016 22:49:27; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform suppose
there's nodes N1... Nn advertising
themselves on
the network. suppose you send
txn X
to all nodes Nk where k is divisible by 2, which has
the properties
that a) it would not be broadcast
to any further nodes, and b) it would prevent
transaction Y from being accepted in
the mempool. suppose you verify
that nodes Nk where k = 2i do not in fact advertise X. suppose you broadcast Y
assbot: Logged on 10-02-2016 02:24:16; nubbins`: speak now if you believe a lord
that has contributed
TRB patches, who owns
the second-largest s.mg stock warrant, who
trades in
the only physical collectibles
that are priced solely in BTC, who pays
the bill for eulora.org, who is
the republic's de facto minister of letters awaiting with bated quill
the whittling-down of a codebase fit
to publish, should be stripped of his
title; speak your
treason now,
th
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i seem
to recall he failed both
tests for continued lordship and was basically not on
the list of names
to be cleared because he asked not
to be.
nubbins`: no need
to defend my character, just note
that
the attack is ad hominem and not addressing any of
the various logical fallacies projected by
the attacker
mircea_popescu: =2i+1. suppose you verify
that nodes Nm do not advertise Y. is
this proof sufficient
to you
that nodes N1... Nn is a charade, and
they are all node N ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform suppose
there's nodes N1... Nn advertising
themselves on
the network. suppose you send
txn X
to all nodes Nk where k is divisible by 2, which has
the properties
that a) it would not be broadcast
to any further nodes, and b) it would prevent
transaction Y from being accepted in
the mempool. suppose you verify
that nodes Nk where k = 2i do not in fact advertise X. suppose you broadcast Y
to nodes Nm where m
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: you just don't know enough about
this sort of
thing
to find
this out.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is
there anything more
than random derp of
tenuous association with b-a has a
total meltdown when he realises
that b-a is not fiat,
the republic not a democracy and i don't give a shit about "people
themselves" ?
assbot: Logged on 07-03-2016 16:45:54; dooglus: if A1 and A2 went
to non-overlapping sets of nodes
then A2 should have been accepted and mined, right?
mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-03-2016#1425011 <<
they should have been. except if
the "non overlapping" sets of miners DO in fact overlap, in
the sense of being merely meaningless facades of
the same one
thing, in which case
they wouldn't necessarily know
that
they can be
trivially fingerprinted by
the symptom of "hey, apparently
they know about a
txn
they shouldn't know about".
☝︎ mircea_popescu: looking for
the low down on argentina ? read it in qntra
today, or in
the argentinian mass media a week later.
mircea_popescu: "El fiscal Alberto Nisman volvió a ocupar el centro de la escena. La investigación sobre su muerte está
tomando una orientación, cuyo desenlace se puede prever: Nisman fue víctima de un asesinato en el que participó el gobierno de Cristina Kirchner, en combinación con agentes iraníes."
nubbins`: i've made promises
that are more
thorough
than
this
thing
nubbins`: no kidding, i can only fit one broken contract in my head at a
time
nubbins`: instead, we have an incomplete, unsigned, inaccurate statement published on
the 7th
nubbins`: The representatives of BitBet solemnly promise and warrant
that complete and accurate Revenue and Net Revenue statements for each calendar month will be published by
them no later
than by
the fifth day of
the new month.
nubbins`: idgaf if
they're published or not, but:
nubbins`: better luck next month with
the feb+march statement
nubbins`: unfortunately, by
the logic of
the listing agreement, feb 2016 statement is null and void no matter if kako signs or not
nubbins`: guess it
took a couple days
to work up
the courage
to introduce
that private expense
nubbins`: seems early
to be using your lifeline
nubbins`: according
to
the listing agreement (3.2 (g)),
this can only happen once per year, and it's march 7th
nubbins`: also, FWIW, S.BBET has officially missed
the Feb 5th deadline for publishing a (signed) feb 2016 statement.
davout: curious why you'd say "that's a weird distribution - 70
transactions were made when block 400728 was
the current block, and only 16 were made at a later point in
time" when
the majority of
the referenced
transactions have a 0 locktime
davout: dooglus: any interpretation for
the data you posted? i fail
to see anything meaningful
to conclude from it
nubbins`: BingoBoingo LMK if you plan
to not publish
BingoBoingo: <nubbins`> BingoBoingo how do / can i submit a qntra piece? << sign/encrypt a document and pass it
to me somehow
nubbins`: <+asciilifeform>because
those who stopped, stopped so
that
they could scam consumers. <<
two wrongs make not a right
danielpbarron: make sure it's encrypted and not just signed.. otherwise
the web crawlers get
to read it first
pete_dushenski: nubbins`: lol is 'piece of shit' a
term of endearment on your end of
the globe ? i have a hard
time keeping
track of all
the different culture nuances in
this vast and expansive country of ours
danielpbarron: nubbins`> BingoBoingo what's next?! signed & ready
to go << link
the signed encrypted
thing as a
text file (on dpaste or your own site) in a later
tell
to Bingo
nubbins`: fwiw,
the "bi" is short for "binary", because -- yep, you guessed it -- 1024 is a
tidy 2^10
nubbins` always chalked it up
to americans not using
the metric system, in which kilo is 1000 by definition
nubbins`: FWIW,
this is why "1
terabyte = 1,000,000,000,000 bytes"
nubbins`: dooglus kibi/mibi/gibi has been
the bane of many
nubbins`: BingoBoingo what's next?! signed & ready
to go
nubbins`: okay, pretty sure
this qntra submission conforms
to standard
dooglus: they also
think kB is spelled with a capital K. whenever blockchain.info disagrees with another block explorer, it's wrong
pete_dushenski: so bc.info suddenly forgot
that
there are 1024 bytes in a kb, like
the girl who
thinks
that her 3 months old son is '12 weeks old' ?
dooglus: pete_dushenski:
that block is 999962 bytes long, which is 976.5254 * 1024 - so
that's
the discrepancy