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mod6: i'll be stoked to use it from the car, or wherever. have you ever seen an MPEx trade fly by on twitter and wish you were home to but in a bid? lol
mod6: im so excited for the JSONSTAT cmd, thats the only other thing I need to implement really.
mod6: I honestly hope to turn BitOTTer into a fulltime thing if all goes well.
mod6: I plan to add charting and graphing and all kinds of neato stuff actually.
mod6: I see... very exciting feature to be implemented for sure.
mod6: sounds neat, but i'm not sure how you mean.
jurov: of course, but it's necessary to collect ideas. i'd also suggest scripting ability for paid version
mod6: at least that was what was planned a while ago. I want to kinda get a alpha/beta program going
mod6: Well, I had been wrestling with this for a while, but what I thought would be a good idea was if people use me for the referal program at MPEx, they can get BitOTTer to download and also save some on the MPEx registration as I'll kick them back 2.5 BTC
jurov: yes, i appreciate that effort too
mod6: then put out that alpha release I've been talking about for forever. once that happens, I can get some feed back from all the users and make good changes based upon feeback
mod6: but... hitting some issues with getting the private key back out -- hopefully I can whip up something different.
mod6: what i have code for now, and was trying to make work successfully was getting these three keys into a KeyStore for use as needed
mircea_popescu: anyway, mod6 : all this effort is not misplaced. I expect as bitcoins catch momentum that iphones/etc will be stolen for the btc content, much like wallets today
mod6: currently to trade @ mpex you must be able to clearsign,and enrypt a message - decryption is helpful too!! - this requires the 3 keys I was talking about
mircea_popescu: i guess i got confused
mod6: i could write that in also... anyway. then the key will be safe... at least it'll be encrypted if the device is hacked/stolen
mod6: im using spongy castle to read in the PGP keys, I then have to convert them to be able to use them outside of its context, it gets hairy
mircea_popescu: jurov i think maybe what he means is, have a sluttysally and a properpolly code.
mod6: i don't want to replace the gpg passphrase... im saying that the user can set a seperate passphrase to encrypt the unencrypted privatekey file on the filestore
mod6: huh? i think we misunderstand eachother
mod6: use that... maybe in a future release i can get the keystore thing working better, or change it so the user might be able to select from a variety of different algos to use
mod6: what I was thinking about using is currently a class that implements 256bit AES
mod6: yeah, im not sure whatever Jan or whomever was talking about. just want to be clear about that I'm doing :)
mod6: ok. to be a bit more spacific, and the documentation will reflect this... i'll encrypt the private key on the local file store.
mod6: anyway guys, I gotta run along to something else quick. i'll try to save the elaborations on that for #BitOTTer in the future. thx.
mod6: its really getting close. i don't wanna let this damn keystore hold me back when I can just use something else.
mod6: this will take some time, but I want to get this into the hands of a few people who'd like to test it before the end of the year.
mod6: i've already got a java one written actually. heck, its even open source.
mod6: i have a screen now where the user goes in and sets the private key for the KeyStore, etc. but now I think I'm just gonna make that be the symmetric key for like AES or something
jurov: i started to be interested cause my phone got back from warranty prepair with completely replaced mobo
mod6: I wanna make sure that if anyone uses BitOTTer that they know their key they put on the device is safe at lesat if the device is stolen or hacked
mod6: jurov: hmm! i didn't know that. they really should be just to save a guy if his device gets stolen or hacked.
mod6: right on. no matter what happens, I'll make sure the PrivateKey ring file will be protected
mircea_popescu: mod6 i guess you could, as long as the user knows about this.
mod6: so... im kinda thinking, this is way to much effort for just a first release, can I not just use a symmetric key algo to enc the privkey on the local filestore?
mircea_popescu: i c
mod6: or at least, its been a bit harder than I expected. i've done a bunch and it now creates a keystore (or loads an existing one)
mod6: well, i've been workin on it quite a bit.
mod6: i figure, it'll keep my spam out of these trade channels :]
mod6: err, nm... anyway. I also made a #BitOTTer channel for technical discussion
mod6: i was like, "Ummmm"
mod6: yeah, its all good. i forgot about the nickserv 'release' command
jurov: i completely forgot i didn't rate you yet
Guest26114: i totally didn't even know I wasn't auth'd then boom
Guest26114: ok, i'll just disconnect and reconnect.
Guest26114: i re-auth'd with nickserv.. but i can't seem to /nick mod6 successfully
Ukto: I was looking back on GLBSE's pricing.. "Sell fee rate, paid by seller: 0.5%" && "Buy fee rate, paid by seller: 0.5%" Couldn't that have just be written as "1% Fee paid by seller on instant orders" ?
smickles: 13:11 < EskimoBob> no, I did not tell him that because he is actually releasing the sh info
gigavps: jurov i'm not raving about anything
jurov: gigavps, i hope you don't rave prematurely
PsychoticBoy: yuuuuuuuuup I am upset, some ppl think they can do whatever they want with others property
jurov: lol... btw, and i ran slow scan overnight on glbse server http://bitbin.it/QZ2AXOeI
PsychoticBoy: I ll send the casket
PsychoticBoy: I should have kick him in the nuts when I had the chance in London
EskimoBob: I'll use your billions for good deeds only
PsychoticBoy: ok so if I understand this correctly, he delays it again with months if he only gives info to 4 ppl each day
EskimoBob: no, I did not tell him that because he is actually releasing the sh info
PsychoticBoy: ok tell him I said FU
EskimoBob: I think I am going to call him
EskimoBob: I guess guruvans wifi was "almost working" :)
smickles: oh, and it's wikipedia, i don't expect the drama to be much better than that
Azelphur: smickles: I actually had it running on my AMD netbook on the open source drivers
smickles: oh you, i have amd
Azelphur: I did it with jockey like it tells me to :P
Namjies: I meant they can probably make a 100% identic replica with an error of less than 1 atom.
dub: I think this might be the most retarded conversation ever
Namjies: If they're still going after such senseless things, I'll call out how a miserable failure their society is before harvesting me.
jurov: i hope so. but still, while like, 99,99% of us can go by without mahogany wood or ivory
Namjies: No, I meant, if you're technologically advanced, you're probably going to be able to use solar power to constantly recycle the same matter before being able to travel efficiently between stars
Namjies: I don't see much logical reasons "aliens" would do most of what some people claim.
thestringpuller: I was thinking like an murican for a minute
mod6: i read all these classic type books over the last four to five years -- i was talking with mircea about it a while ago
mod6: I forgot how in older movies that many of the credits are in the beginning of the movie.
mod6: oh hey, i finally watched the '65 version of Doctor Zhivago -- it was pretty great actualy
mod6: vircurex didn't ever allow exchange of buttcoins i see
smickles: they moved her to marketing later on tho, i dunno why
smickles: i'm sure ther's a joke in there
mod6: haha. i used to have cox i think ... it was either that or Charter? out there in tucson
mircea_popescu: prolly get a kickback from the trademark office, you pay 1-2k to them, i change the name.
mircea_popescu: i'll care.
thestringpuller: I'm going to trademark all these MP** and not license the trademark to you
mircea_popescu: gee whiz, i have my own glossary. i shall name it mpgloss!
midnightmagic: Oh am I naming it incorrectly? Is it MPEX or MPOE?
mircea_popescu: honestly i think the nyse is a lot less real rthan mpex atm. all that bs free money, all those algo trades...
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: I literally have no idea at all how you've set up MPOE. As far as I've seen, it's just a sandbox on your webserver that's fun to play with.
mircea_popescu: i meant to midnightmagic but go ahead
thestringpuller: say I start a company and list it on a reputable exchange
midnightmagic: I mean who knows, maybe MPOE doesn't even have transferrable shares.
mircea_popescu: the reason it's set up like this is exactly that i don't want to create this possibility where something's due but unenforceable.
midnightmagic: I suspect since he has technical control of the market, even if the company were a company with proper voting shares, mircea could just physicall halt the sale.
thestringpuller: I secretly want to find a millionaire and buy all the MPOE stock and vote mircea out
jurov: well, if you so crave shares with voting rights, i can privately issue some for coinbr :P
Namjies: I believe it does not
Azelphur: I've been in the official beta since the beginning near enough
smickles: i can install steam on my compy, and it shows it working, but a message pops up and says i'm not part of the beta
Azelphur: smickles: I bitch
smickles: oh, lol, yeah, i'd forgotten the earthquake thing
mircea_popescu: i also remember some scientists on trial cause they didn' predict an earthquake
smickles: < mircea_popescu> but i fail to see the argument. the italians are way in the top of retarded << remember the google employees going to jail b/c some kid posted a vid on youtube of a mentally ill kid being bullied?