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BingoBongo: Barely more than the block reward in transactions and nearly
a quarter megabyte each
jborkl: Mp or Jurov - are there
a bunch of pending market orders to fill?
mircea_popescu: prolly your best path of action on
a personal level is
mircea_popescu: and you have
a much larger userbase crossection, you'll read plenty of shit in the forum
mircea_popescu: but maybe get an account with
a good ddos protected host.
mircea_popescu: anyway, their upstream/colo host prolly told them to not do it again or else get
a real connection
mircea_popescu: tghen if you serve 500 pages in
a day it's suddenly... we're only hosters if you don't get traffic.
mircea_popescu: yest i had txs lay stale for > 6 hours before being included in
a block.
mircea_popescu: i think more than just mpex, tis
a test for bitcoins in general.
jborkl: I should have /nick but I didnt want people to really have
a heart attack
BingoBongo: Eh, I figured PrimeAsic blew their chance earlier this week. I'm having trouble figuring out if they are
a well planned scam, troll, or both.
assbot: Quest for vision is
a great blessing.
mircea_popescu: jborkl sometimes people say the things they most fear. it's
a defense mechanism.
jborkl: If you were
a asshole scammer, you would probably run off with Nefario, Piratits, and the list goes on. I am not concerned if you are
a asshole, that is not my problem
mircea_popescu: jborkl what i'd do is cause
a lot of grief to people otherwise ill equipped to cope.
mircea_popescu: it would be painful, especially if they go after nodes one at
a time
jborkl: Mp, what about using bitcoin to send the trade message to your address. cant ddos the entire network, put the encypted message inside
a signed transactions- use it just like SD does
dub: its
a racket for sure
mircea_popescu: "o wait, you mean ddos as in, 6-7 gb sustained with 20gb peaks ?! OMG TAKE
A HIKE"
dub: nobody is
a willing user of gox
jcpham: send
a cryptic email explaining how the hot wallet backup was unencrypted and accesible via telnet
mircea_popescu: b.
a lot of longass short puts were closed, which does count
mircea_popescu:
a.
a lot of calls closed up past 24 hours. those don't count.
mjr__: i'm wondering if you could basically require
a signed message in the
http header request to get to the webserver
mjr__: hmmm, i have
a little idea
mircea_popescu: mjr__ proxies help in the exact sort of way i had it set-up : open web proxy which connects on
a sort of private vpn to mpex webservers
mircea_popescu: cloudflare is very cheap (like200
a month) but it's mostly intended for random kid dickery.
mjr__: would
a recaptcha and session timeout not solve most of it?
mircea_popescu: as
a relative rock bottom, if things can't be otherwise resolved within
a couple of days i will have
a vpn installed. this has the disadvantage that it puts the brokers in an iffy spot
mircea_popescu: but to expand on the plan : as an absolute rock bottom if things can't be otherwise resolved within
a week, i will publish
a gmail address, and trade will work via email (you email your paste instead of putting into site, you get it back)
mircea_popescu: better and fairer just freeze things for
a little bit.
mircea_popescu: however, i judged that'd create
a haves/havesnot disparity that's both huge and sudden
mircea_popescu: that;s kinda it, i could have come up with
a pure vpn solution
mircea_popescu: and honestly i think colored coins are
a horrible nonstarter. i can only imagine the sort of crap that'd occur if they caught on
BingoBongo: So this got Hearn's panties in
a bunch even though he does so much work with SPV clients?
mircea_popescu: it will be
a LOT easier to handle those issues with fixed addies
mircea_popescu: soon enough there will be
a market for mempool gatway rules.
dub: so every bitcoin merchant has
a mining farm to confirm its txn
mircea_popescu: there will be
a dedicated box preparing the mempool for mine rigs in most farms
jcpham: strategic mining is
a subject i like
mircea_popescu: think about it : i am going to get
a mining cluster which i will run for purely strategic reasons
dub:
a few extra mindless forum babies does not
a decentralised verification network make
dub: which will leave people who are doign ot as
a business
ZedsterX: i have been given
a free scam lightning miner 4.0 unit
gribble: Error: "burnside" is not
a valid command.
mircea_popescu: there is demand. come out with an inventory of asics you will sell 10-100k units in
a month if you can actuyally deliver them.
mircea_popescu: and if you think people won't be buying asics at 1k
a pop, let me tell you something :
dub: either eek out
a tiny margin on your gaming rig/hobby asic or go large
mircea_popescu: i am arguing that for every wanna-break the world kid / bank clerk who thinks he's
a banker / duimbass kid who thinks writing "options" on
a webpage makes him an options trader
dub: it sounds like youa re arguing that like gamers mining on their 1-2 gpus,
a lot of randoms will decide to grab an asic and mine
mircea_popescu: so our miner putative market increased by
a factor of 10k%
miscreanity: asics are plug and play - gpus required
a considerable amount of experise and se to manage
mircea_popescu: it will be
a case of "he who has 1000 bucks gets
a vote"
mircea_popescu: it did use the cheap "anyone can run
a gpu" fud tactic, but in fact it was as centralised as it can get.
mircea_popescu: it was based on the shaky foundation of marginal personal ability, cause running
a gpu farm is
a logistic nightmare.
mircea_popescu: people like gigavps, amazingrando, hashking et all had
a disproportionate share of power in the ecosystem
mircea_popescu: in my estimation, asic mining wll be
a lot more decentralised than gpu mining
dub: so you're gettign back to being
a credit card
dub: mircea_popescu: so in
a free market world, you should be joining the foundation, lobbying for and funding your own devs to correct the problem
assbot: Ah, your hair. Your hair is soft. It's like
a girl's. Now how do you get it that way?
assbot: You cannot stop the clouds by the building of
a ship.
dub: but there is
a scaling problem due to SD, you can't argue against that
mjr__: gave
a lot of publicity to bitcoin? check
dub: and romantic ideals aside, this is really just
a question of, will the everyman use bitcoin if its p2p'ness goes away
dub: bitcoin adoption as
a whole may not accept that
dub: it will take
a technical probelm to change them
mjr_: obviously america has not gotten
a stranglehold over the world
dub: to have
a free market you need informed players
mjr_: exactly, the free market has decided that sdice is
a good thing
dub: mjr_: yes and 'the internet' has fundamentally changed
a few times to cope with scaling
jborkl: Who said the blockchain is only for
a certain transaction?
mircea_popescu: the day we go in the marketplace with
a workable solution that would crtumble amex
dub: if you had to pay for every grain of rice you bought individually with
a CC, amex would crumble too
mjr_: mircea: to be fair, i don't think that the protocol EXCLUDES the use of
a layer on top of it that could replicate "accounts"...
mjr_: and i think it is
a good image
dub: mjr_: sanest comparison I've seen was from this channel, imagine
a casine where you had to cash out and back in after every bet
mircea_popescu: dub mpex uses the blockchain for accounting
a different way.
mjr_: yes, because the miners should get less money? not to mention the fact that it's about people enjoying and using bitcoins...so you will take away
a popular service to further your cause?
mircea_popescu: some people were on
a kick of "bitbet should charge less"