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Chaang-Noi: bitcoin breaking i think really showed people a more tested version is good to have around
benkay: i was imagining a land of rainbows and ponies tbh
benkay: is there a bitcoin security channel?
BitHub: PPS. Everyone named in this article gets a block of 10`000 S.MPOE shares. Contact jurov to take possession - that include me mircea :)
mircea_popescu: just like a normal one
deadweasel: thats more of a statement than a ?
deadweasel: I'm curious what a transaction from an orphaned fork looks like?
dub: thebuttholezone is such a prolix dick eater
burnside: eh, for that I have a ways to go.
burnside: well, I guess I'm a thousandaire of LTC already, so soon I can be a thousandaire of USD. ;)
burnside: I'm going to be a thousandaire
jcpham: i've never seen a single shiny anything
mircea_popescu: currently if all bitcoin devs were hit by a bus bitcoin would benefit immensely.
jcpham: i might sell some poop on ebay for a bajillion dolars too
jcpham: is that a spread or the low/high fo today
dub: cocain is a helluva drug
BitHub: i can buy a mining rig, yay
mircea_popescu: "TD that's why i don't understand people who say implementation diversity is a good thing. it's clearly not."
dub: must remember to have a look for it
dub: and I've thrown away a bunch of ltc :/
kakobrekla: fucked up a zero
smickles: it's prolly a rounding error
smickles: aside from that, it's a very pleasing way to use mpex
smickles: http://imgur.com/a/vAzaK
dub: [19:05] <theymos> Luke-Jr: On the subject of bitcointroll forum, I'm going to add a feature allowing you to mark your topics as self-moderated when you create them. In such topics, the OP can delete replies. That should solve some of your problems.
Ukto: now that its on a network that can handle things. jurov was scrambling like crazy to get things setup right
Ukto: or pm me a url to any documentation
mircea_popescu: dub they seem to have a lot
mircea_popescu: i have a never ending flood of actuall ddos since like the beginning of the month
Ukto: and then announce a POST to kako's bot
FabianB: Ukto: not really with a proxy (connecting via websockets to bitfunder and posting to assbot)
Ukto: ust a conflict of standards
FabianB: sad my bet on bitbet "bitfunder won't announce in #bitcoin-assets by ..." wasn't accepted a few days ago ;)
mircea_popescu: then one wonders how bitcoin base got in such a mess
benkay: you're going to have to articulate that argument a little more clearly.
Ukto: a few ppl asked
kakobrekla: maybe some fan of yours will make a script that will listen to your socket and make posts
kakobrekla: assbot is a standard in #bitcoin-assets , in other rooms there can be 252 bots having buttsex for all i care
Ukto: i mean honestly, can you give me a good reason why different name cant say the same information?
kakobrekla: lets have a cake or something now
Ukto: so i made a simple solution
Ukto: and fwiw it took someone 10 minutes to make a websocket announcing bot.
kakobrekla: just a coder mircea_popescu, just a coder.
Ukto: call me a jew
Ukto: anywho, we were at a crossroads, i didnt want to custom for your bot because its really a waste of time when theres a simple method for it. I paid someone to make a work around. you say NO for no real reason. thas that
kakobrekla: so the conclusion is Ukto cant afford a post per trade
mircea_popescu: so use a proxy
Ukto: twitter is not a person on irc
Ukto: the server remains behind protection for a reason as not to have the ips given out
kakobrekla: if a onliner means 'custom get post script' then yes
Ukto: kakobrekla: so you want me to make a custom GET/POST request script
TomServo: mircea_popescu: do you have a link to the bitcoin-dev summary you're referring to?
kakobrekla: mpex is a special case
mircea_popescu: there will be a trade freeze, should be no more than ~10 minutes, will be announced in advance
Ukto: caused a laod increase of 5% on the servers
FabianB: Ukto: how's a push from your system to assbot 'banging your server'? if i understand it right assbot doesn't pull from your servers
Ukto: or just be a fuckup
Ukto: sorry, but I know how to create platforms that dont buckle under load when they get a large userbase
mircea_popescu: Ukto no, atm we'd be better of if everyone in devteam were under a bus.
Ukto: i am using a highly customized version
mircea_popescu: anyone "upgrading" to any further crap they release is irresponsible from a business perspective.
mircea_popescu: like a diff bot ? sure.
Ukto: if I put a test bot trade announcer in here
dub: shivving a few poindexters more your speed
dub: you aren't on a quest to rescue bitcoin from mediocraty?
dub: heres some low hanging fruit for you mircea_popescu. <pjorrit_> we really should get a SD on testnet
Lyspooner: i'm going to start a foundation
mircea_popescu: you can have trade without contracts but it's a recipe for disaster.
mircea_popescu: a specification
Lyspooner: what's a spec
mod6: cause i feel like i want to clone and start going through this thing again. last year, I made a shit load of my own changes to get it working on freebsd properly.
mod6: (12:08) < mircea_popescu> that;s usually a good step towards specification.
mod6: (12:08) < mircea_popescu> mod6 actually once you're done with the iphone app, a very good use of someone's time is to go through the codebase and summarize it
mircea_popescu: idiot parade is lucky that evoorhees is a sweetheard, even if they treat him like dirt.
mircea_popescu: jurov he had processing turned off for a little.
maximian: SatoshiDice bet sizes not being affected by the exchange rate is a nice surprise
assbot: Quest for vision is a great blessing.
mod6: i feel like we need a bitcoin RFC
mod6: but there can always be a little guidence on how it is designed, why something is implemented the way it is, etc.
mircea_popescu: they lost a further however much cause of discarded blocks
benkay: it's a painful process
mod6: even the other night, i wrote that code quick that worked. i mean, it kinda worked, in the way that it fucked a donkey.
mod6: I think, at least for myself, every time I had to write a paper, or have written some code; I've gone back the next day or at some later date and done a `wtf?'
benkay: in retrospect, i'm a little surprised they didn't this time
mircea_popescu: more like a gash really.
mod6: So, what I'm saying is, I think it's a really good thing to create a spec, and then everyone can punch eachother in the nuts over it until its perfect. This is the way to go.
mircea_popescu: and there's a crack
mircea_popescu: jurov she's a little worn i nplaces.
mircea_popescu: i'm kinda stuck to just talking atm because a and b.
mircea_popescu: b. i set up a prize which anyone may claim. well... this opens the idiocy problem of "oh, I don'tneed his money, what does me take for, a starving artist????"
mircea_popescu: a. i hire someone. well... this opens the political problem of "oh, he's mp's puppet".
mod6: this is a solid plan.
mircea_popescu: hiowever, once it's complete there's a few day's worth of facepalming and going "wait, we are doing W?HAT ?!"
mircea_popescu: this wouldn't take much longer than a few weeks for a first draft, which can then be argued and refined
mircea_popescu: we can pretty much derive a spec from there.
mircea_popescu: jurov anyway, the problem isn't as much the drama, but moreover that a single-source codebase is both non-bitcoiny and suspect.
mod6: anyway, drives me up a wall, I'll tell you. :)
mod6: i just feel like, this should be like a HACK THE PLANET type thing, and people who want this to work will make it work.
mircea_popescu: then once we have spec they can fix their fucked codebase and release a proper client
mod6: like on upgrade from version 4 to 5 or something? there was a night where they did an upgrade and the similar thing happened.