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mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-15#1567838 << in point of fact we don't must use it, i've been happy with local name table for what, half a year ? not so much a matter of this as - it's there. might as well infect and "ruin" it for teh imperial idjits. ☝︎
trinque: so then the solution must come of "we who matter have connected to node X for the table" and could do otherwise, but don't
mircea_popescu: yes, it works fine in context, yes context frames needn't even map to identities ; nevertheless - you will have to have shared symbol tables.
asciilifeform: because such a net isn't worth using.
mircea_popescu: really, read this rfc thing. it isn't long. where the fuck is it.
mircea_popescu: you can't standardize "the asking" ebcause the asking is made out of symbols which have to be meaningful.
mircea_popescu: if there's nowhere to lookup the "(" how will you have a lisp ? because "we all know" ? and if we don't know how do we find out ?
mircea_popescu: be explicit. metaphora doesn't belong here.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: abstraction layering doesn't work. it is the great lie of the software age.
mircea_popescu: you can't have a system without a dictionary.
Framedragger: personally i don't see why there could not be a GNS which would be separate from commitments to specific transport standards. have a table, have a transport layer, swap the layer later. i may be naive in regards to the "swap" step, i guess... :/
asciilifeform: waaaiwat, why would you keep the unauthenticable crock of shit made of 10,001 ITU idiocies if you ~weren't~ gonna keep the code ?!
mircea_popescu: ugh. no it doesn't.
Framedragger: i don't have a strong opinion, i wonder what mircea_popescu thinks. i guess the answer would also focus on the "while we still must use it" aspect
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/11/google-pull-adsense-from-news-content-it-doesnt-like/ << Qntra - Google Pull Adsense From News Content It Doesn't Like
mircea_popescu: myeah. rahter insufferable aren't they.
Framedragger: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20161115/#349 << ohmygerd how i hate this shit. it ends with "to quote text in screenshot of screenshot, i'll make a screenshot". tumblr at least retains/-ed the concept of a "quote as a block of text". wouldn't be surprised if not for long.
pete_dushenski: "At Twitter, he didn't collect a salary or stock options last year and only received personal and residential security costs totaling $68,506." << dorsey's 2015 figures
mircea_popescu: maybe some of 'em want to go away for a weekend, you don't know till you ask amirite.
mircea_popescu: o hey, apparently twitter DOESN'T have you know, guidelines etc anymore.
mircea_popescu: kinda the point of the whole "special" bullshit. everything the anal child does is directed towards the same protection of his childhood, and in this particular case - if he's special enough then you can't "say bad things" because are outside ; and if you're not outside he'll just... specialize more.
mircea_popescu: what happened to "you're not willing to follow the rules, you can't take public office" ?
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/OulNa << can't say that herr soros is spent quite yet!111 they are marching out ~high school~ pupils to 'protest' nao.
mircea_popescu: i think some magic could be had where you put all the new items into a new table then merge the two tables where hashes don't match.
mircea_popescu: t to the point, to disentangle a skein of thought, to detect what is sophistical, and to discard what is irrelevant."
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: yeah, i guess can't be certain. doesn't really fit for sure..
mircea_popescu: Framedragger re automation angle - i dunno, i suppose varying amounts of elbow grease could be employed, entirely as a mechanical gearbox, in lieu of actual automation. just it doesn't fit in my head - the same people who wouldn't read ten words would then go through the motions, orders of magnitude more complex, of making screenshots etc ?
mircea_popescu: anyway. i don't think they wasted my time nor do i think myself the victim. fact is i can turn them into value if i so decide, much like the beekeeper can make candles and honeycomb if he wants. and if i don't want - i just don't make a fiverr account. not like they can do anything whatsoever, they can't even elect hillary.
Framedragger: could it be that half of them are bots, mircea_popescu? can't imagine them being able to use imagemagick for the life of me
mircea_popescu: except a) they didn't and b) we did and c) they published nothing and d) we published both ips and factors ?
Framedragger: or banner-grabber? i have all the banners still. (and no i haven't done anything with them, yet)
Framedragger: (vc's cockbox vps don't care about no abuse complaintz.)
jurov: yea, they usually don't survive reinstalls
mircea_popescu: it wasn't some sort of grand "oh we shall pwn boxen" as such.
asciilifeform: i presently know of no system that ships with remote-login-with-key-auth enabled by default. does not mean that there isn't such a thing.
mircea_popescu: yes, obviously, you can now mitm whoever tries to connect to compromised box. HOWEVER there's no rule that someone coouldn't have made one of these boxes admins on other boxes.
asciilifeform: breaking these ssh keys doesn't get you in anywhere
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/vsMXn << not, as appearances might suggest, wholly unrelated: derps froth at the mouth that anyone might dare to play german conquest marches, 'I hope someone will inform their music authorities', 'I am usually very moderate about showcasing of the original information, but I don't think new performances should be encouraged!', etc.
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's so funny how much can change in a mere coupla decades. from clinton's "boy, i wish i could say the same" to obama's "i solemnly promise & swear trump won't be elected".
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, nigel farage is utterly furios that notwithstanding he's the only brit with a trump pass, nevertheless may & friends won't come kiss his pinky ring.
asciilifeform: wasn't it made default in firefox when the latter was colonized?
mircea_popescu: incidentally alf : why don't ANY of these fucking idiots doing "mass shootings" like EVER read a fucking training manual, figure out they're supposed to carry ft not ap small arms ?
mod6: Oh, maybe it wsa for the sax joke. Didn't see that.
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't touch her, what am i, a licensed nurse ?
mircea_popescu: well, if they didn't maybe someone'd give a shit.
vvande: well, I won't be using it a lot until I get more into it
vvande: OK. I just want to make sure I don't cause trouble later.
ben_vulpes: no expiration date, don't forget the passphrase
ben_vulpes: actually i don't know about denmark
asciilifeform: t cheaper than anywhere else. We are entertaint.'
mircea_popescu: o check that out, nobody wants the mulatto in chief. if he doesn't get to hang on to the wh he has literally nowhere to go.
mircea_popescu: gpg: Good signature from "Seclab Signing Key 2016 <seclab@airgapped.sec.t-labs.tu-berlin.de>"
mircea_popescu: dawg, copy/paste doesn't copy the links.
BingoBoingo: And then can't verify sig
mircea_popescu: much like the whole "social justice" crapolade : "news for geeks, stuff that matters", "web's most important blabla", "slashdotted" and whatnot - then when push comes to shove, it ain't worth enough to buy a middle class home.
mircea_popescu: lol isn't he cute all excited like that.
mircea_popescu: gpg: Good signature from "Seclab Signing Key 2016 <seclab@airgapped.sec.t-labs.tu-berlin.de>"
mircea_popescu: they built usg in not for any reason than because they WERE usg. postel's "oh noes - otherwise CHAOS" is exactly symptomatic. just like the arab mind can't quite comprehend how one who doesn't give a shit about allah may manage to drink from a cup, just so usgtards can't comprehend how one who isn't a socialist can at all live.
ben_vulpes: freenic doesn't appear to be in any better shape.
mircea_popescu: can't do all things at the same time.
mircea_popescu: tu berlin is the technische universitat berlin, their version of a politechnic. sec.t-labs.tu-berlin is the "institut fur softwaretechnick und theoretische informatik" (ie the cs faculty of said college)'s it security lab.
asciilifeform: https://sks-keyservers.net/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=sec.t-labs.tu-berlin.de << others -- yes on sks.
asciilifeform: Seclab Signing Key 2015 <seclab@airgapped.sec.t-labs.tu-berlin.de>; Seclab Signing Key 2016 <seclab@airgapped.sec.t-labs.tu-berlin.de>;
mircea_popescu: it doesn't also contain all other factors found ?
a111: Logged on 2016-11-12 15:50 mircea_popescu: set up your client to pick two-of-three, give it 1 republic and 2 reich servers. it'll give you republic for all the things reich doesn't know and reich for stuff like apple.com
mircea_popescu: and holy shit no you don't want to reuse dns server code oh my fucking god.
Framedragger: i wonder if a simpler key-value store wouldn't work as a replacement for dns server. "flatten" the whole thing, so that, as you say, dns server wouldn't distinguish between types of substrings. the latter would be up to the client, if it willed to do so.
Framedragger: yes indeed; and now i see that maybe there wouldn't be too much of a redundancy there - that is, when gossipd arrives, dns server could still accept pgprams, they'd simply come via gossipd - and the latter may even sit behind an abstracted network interface, etc.
mircea_popescu: the OTHER disaster of commons of the republican era is discussed on trilema re "you can't decide what's worth doing", if you recall that footnote.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: my excuse is, i don't feel like i have enough original content to keep spamming your comments box. what can i say. such self esteem
mircea_popescu: "but that part wouldn't be the first to relate. the part that'd first to relate is that you gotta talk to these servers to admin your strings"
mircea_popescu: and of course we managed this situation where half the conversation is here hjalf on trilema to maximally confuse the future interested party. ALL BECAUSE YOU CAN'T HAVE THE PATIENCE TO GET ANSWER THERE!111
mircea_popescu: people aren't strings.
mircea_popescu: i suppose, but that part wouldn't be the first to relate. the part that'd first to relate is that you gotta talk to these servers to admin your strings. and well... talk over... what.
mircea_popescu: there's no reason ~you~ should know aforehand what the dns servers will tell you to ask if you look for "string containing substring x" ; and the fact that you DO know who to ask for ".com" is just another sign of the above "some bs hacked together by people who didn't go to school for cs 30 yearsd ago"
Framedragger: delegate = "i don't know about this, but this guy does. ask him"
mircea_popescu: it doesn't "delegate", it caches. you know, like in sanity land, as opposed to some bs hacked together by people who didn't go to school for cs 30 yearsd ago.
asciilifeform: (the modulus belongs to something labeled as 'Seclab Signing Key 2016 <seclab@airgapped.sec.t-labs.tu-berlin.de>')
BingoBoingo: Maybe because illustrator hasn't seen one? This is the internet.
mircea_popescu: people don't generally understand WHY amateur pornography is so popular ; they imagine like tlp it has to do with proper porn being boring or something. not so - it's just that cameras don't photohgraph odours.
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-13#1566897 << nice. phucted simply by sharing a known-to-phuctor factor. on cursory glance appears to be in use - and from known uni - and i like the s3cur3 email of seclab at airgapped.sec.t-labs.tu-berlin.de !1 ☝︎
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: and if A registered fags.com and later an established WoT member B, started a commercial "fags" project, B shouldn't be able to claim ownership of A's fags.com, presumably? sorry if this should be stupidly obvious, there is some.. conceptual ground to be covered
ben_vulpes: is there any reason one couldn't host 'com' as a domain, absent the crown concessions?
mircea_popescu: i don't, however, see any future for utf domain names.
ben_vulpes: 't inspire confidence
ben_vulpes: same as t'other
mircea_popescu: anyway, "we've decided not to leak anything so please give a shit". i... don't give a shit.
mircea_popescu: i think it's just badly set up, i don't see it either.
mircea_popescu: chairs also don't vote ; this is of no electoral interest whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: you don't have to trade for paper.
mircea_popescu: this doesn't relate to an early stage where we draw up who owns what from the legacy world.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger note that i don't particularly see the value in restrictioning anything. in principle anyone should be able to register a domain for his bitcent - even if he puts no gpg key in there. he just won't be able to admin it, big whoop./ ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the actual adult male will first fuck her into pudding, and THEN decide she's justr a slut he doesn't give a shit about.
mircea_popescu: consider the case of a very hot chick. the... churly, impotent approach is to go "she's a slut, i don't give a shit about her" like that, off the top.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: re. dorks registering trilema, gotcha. i wasn't sure how "human-neutral" you imagined the system to be (I wasn't thinking of anything along the crazy lines of "no humans needed" ethereum, note).
asciilifeform: thus far mr t's list is most reminiscent imho of jimmy carter's campaign plank, where he promised to 'show the aliens'
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/and-they-wont-fucking-yield/ << Trilema - And they won't fucking yield.
mod6: ugh, so wasn't a coil pack, but an injector.
ben_vulpes: don't even care how inconvenient the backup is so long as it works
mircea_popescu: i also don't give a shit where "very famous" "times top 100 most powerful people" rando ho was when X event happened, or what she was doing.