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trinque: mrottenkolber: consider
that as specified
the
total source code involved in a vtron can *decrease* drastically from here.
mrottenkolber: asciilifeform: I hash of some metadata and a hash of
tons of hashes of
tns of hashes lol
trinque: mrottenkolber: behind
the words one knows
there can be an expanse of rusty gears and dirty secrets
mrottenkolber: and it was kind of obvious
that it signs
the commit object, I mean what else?
mrottenkolber: I can recommend “Git from
the bottom up”, git at its core is actually quite... minimalistic.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform iirc abs is
the more expensive sort of ink.
assbot: Logged on 23-03-2016 00:04:06; phf: nor is
there an easy way
to answer "what was signed" question, short of reading source. you just have
to assume
that right bits go in, and
that nobody's going
to change what bits go in in future releases, etc.
mod6: well, i guess i can appreciate
that. i was simply going
to write a V in Ada as a way
to learn Ada.
mod6: boy oh boy. looks like all you can hope for with Ada and issuing system commands is
to redirect
the output
to a file, and
the read
the file.
assbot: Logged on 23-03-2016 00:31:03; mircea_popescu: it's actually a pretty serious health risk.
the plasticisers / other
treatments
that make
the 3d feedstock behave sufficiently like ink are all items of concern in food chain.
assbot: Logged on 23-03-2016 00:23:16; gernika: I have a friend who may have found a valid use for 3d printers: he's built 4 of
them in his garage and uses
them
to prototype electronic
toy parts.
mrottenkolber: So I learned
today
that git does't use sha1 as I
thought, but its own git-hash-object
mod6: thanks for
the link alf
mircea_popescu: so you don't leak your ip by visiting links ; so you archive
their contents if you want
to.
mircea_popescu: strength of concrete is inverse
to
the added water, up
to a point, but
that makes it hard
to work.
mircea_popescu: incidentally :
the ancient myths of "person-in-construction" have a practical backing in
the roman practice of using fat and sometimes blood as a plasticizer in concrete.
ben_vulpes: in other news, i finally put a
tv in
the conference room and it is now apparently
the dedicated "5 hours of rocket explosions on a loop" device
mircea_popescu: it's actually a pretty serious health risk.
the plasticisers / other
treatments
that make
the 3d feedstock behave sufficiently like ink are all items of concern in food chain.
☟︎ gernika: so you can forget about it while it rots in
the refrigerator?
ben_vulpes: why would you put food in
that plastic
gernika: aparently also uses random items such as various
tupperware containers.
gernika: I have a friend who may have found a valid use for 3d printers: he's built 4 of
them in his garage and uses
them
to prototype electronic
toy parts.
☟︎ phf: suggested solutions include writing update hooks,
that in
turn involve plenty of goo' ol' foo=$(bar|sed|awk)
ben_vulpes: pretty good example of
the "promise" end of
the spectrum.
phf: nor is
there an easy way
to answer "what was signed" question, short of reading source. you just have
to assume
that right bits go in, and
that nobody's going
to change what bits go in in future releases, etc.
☟︎ phf: mrottenkolber: unfortunately
there seems
to be no way
to enforce security in git, no way
to enable some always_gnupg flag, nor is
there a mechanism
to add default arguments
to some builtin commands.
mircea_popescu: lol
they finally found
the
true vocation of 3d printed items, glorified doorstops ?
ben_vulpes: mrottenkolber: forgive my
thickness but /why/ are you doing
this?
mrottenkolber: assuming it signs
the whole commit object, given `merge --verify-signatures' is probably reasonably secure.
mircea_popescu: "bitcoin in
terms of gavin and maku kalaposu", a pretty good satirical premise, i grant.
davout recently learned
that PDF could contain javascript
gernika: apropos of nothing, I just attempted
to download a .pdf formatted datasheet and received a PDF FORMATTED error message.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: boxes do not get delivered
to your domicile?
nubbins`: so i built a "hackintosh" computer, just realized i hadn't bothered
to put
the video card into
the
thing
nubbins`: banking, where
the hours are great even if
the pay sucks
assbot: Logged on 22-03-2016 19:44:42; nubbins`: asciilifeform did you receive yr
textiles yet?
davout guesses
that's one field where stuff done by hand is actually easier
mircea_popescu: hopefully you never get old enough
to credit it altogether.
mircea_popescu: invention is like
true love. you gotta be a certain age
to believe it with all your heart.
assbot: Logged on 22-03-2016 20:56:07; mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes happens
to me all
the
time!
then alf runs off and invents it and i'm like fuuuu wasn't
this on
trilema!
mircea_popescu: no, v is great even if painful - because it's painful
to
the right people, which are
the people who aren't me.
mircea_popescu: why
the hell not. how much worse
than present situation could it be.
mircea_popescu: well alternatively one could also shit on exposed cable and let
the bits sort
themselves into software as
they will
ben_vulpes: perhaps
the *other* way
to go about
this is simply
to make patches against
the base 0.5.3, and
then anyone wanting
to apply
them may do so in whatever order
they choose, resolving conflicts as
they feel.
mircea_popescu: it's splendid, really.
the fact
that i can run it on a random box and
trust
the result pales anything else.
mircea_popescu: then again,
the people who aren't me
that actually care/understand computers
tend
to .
ben_vulpes: that way i can rebase, etc whenever i care
to.
ben_vulpes: i press
to confirm patch validity and
then commit
the changes
to my local version controlatron.
phf: mechanism has nothing
to do with "mercurial" as such, and is more akin
to old school patch management system, "quilt"
phf: mercurial has a handy patch management mechanism,
that unfortunatly doesn't understand nor produces vpatches. i basically verify vpatches manually, and
then put
them into hg's patch folder.
then i do a
topo sort, which gives me a mercurial compatible "series" file. i let mercurial press it using
that series file. whole process is more complicated
then should be with a proper mercurial support, but i hnfi how people rebase, refresh,
assbot: Logged on 22-03-2016 20:49:10; mircea_popescu: if someone, as oft is
the case for say mod6, is
trying
to make
the whole pile of what was said abvout X,
they encounter a very present difficulty.
mircea_popescu: mrottenkolber> Obviously, I wouldn't bet on it. <<
trivial, add comment.
mircea_popescu: phf i heard
this privately
too, during rebasing debate, "pretty much
the only way
to manage
this insanity is
to put it on mercurial"