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jurov: when they did word it right, you have obeyed?
danielpbarron: no, most people never word it that way
jurov: danielpbarron: do you have any idea how many times i heard that in my life? surely you must have did too, did you likewise obey them?
nubbins`: but really all i'm doing here is filling in the time between layers of ink
fluffypony: ok you're the only one there
nubbins`: don't get me wrong, holding mp's feet to the fire is a good lel
fluffypony: nubbins`: I've added you to my Official 2016 T-shirt Printer List
asciilifeform: nubbins`: but i can hardly picture that ~this~ is what it looks like.
danielpbarron: jurov, get fine with them already. You are wrong.
nubbins`: glad trinque ignored me, it was annoying having him bleat at me all the time
asciilifeform: nubbins`: happy to hear.
nubbins`: asciilifeform there's plenty of folk i like talking to here besides you :D
jurov: trinque, danielpbarron: i am not fine with things, what do you think i can do?
asciilifeform: nubbins`: you can have'em with me in pm if it strikes your fancy. when i'm home, which is maybe 1.2 hr/day. hell, i still talk to vex!
nubbins`: mp is just a guy who plays MMORPGs and wanks on irc all day, to me ☟︎
nubbins`: asciilifeform i stuck around here for the interesting convos, verbal diarrhoea from mp aside.
asciilifeform: trinque: i am beginning to see mp's pov on this, now.
trinque wonders at walking asciilifeform through the mechanics of a troll
trinque: enjoys the shit
trinque: because he's fine leaving things in the state they are now
nubbins`: thanks daniel for reminding us how to think
danielpbarron: those of you allowing nubbins` to rile you up are in the wrong, and it does nobody but "the enemy" to persist in pretending like there's still something to argue about
asciilifeform: jurov: thought was not about 'most people', but about mp
nubbins`: so far it's only mp and trinque unable to work it out
jurov: we're not splitting,for most people here this discussion isn't enough to get nuclear
nubbins`: people who do things on one side. mp, dpb, trinque, hanbot on other. alf in middle
asciilifeform: i kinda wonder how this would be going down if we were using gossipd.
asciilifeform: trinque: i suppose that if we imitate republican spain long enough, mp will take his ball and go home, and there will be no l1 etc.
nubbins`: about fuckin time
trinque: look at the way this guy plays to the crowd, like it's there, and it matters
nubbins`: if we took all the bees out of danielpbarron's and trinque's panties, we could make honey.
asciilifeform: trinque: well it stays until manually knob turned
danielpbarron: we don't know this yet!
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: dun work this way. he's on the l1.
assbot: Trust relationship from user assbot to user nubbins`: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 6 via 14 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=assbot&to=nubbins%60 | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/nubbins%60/
assbot: Successfully added a rating of -3 for nubbins` with note: treats the forum like reddit, behaves like a fool
trinque: !rate nubbins` -3 treats the forum like reddit, behaves like a fool
trinque: !rate -3 nubbins` treats the forum like reddit, behaves like a fool
nubbins`: you're also thoroughly welcome to tell someone who cares
nubbins`: you're thoroughly misinformed
trinque: nubbins`: you're thoroughly dishonest.
nubbins`: so, how does everyone feel about there no longer being a lordship?
asciilifeform: nubbins`: so far the point of greatest disagreement between him and i is whether to talk to nubbins` !
nubbins`: <+asciilifeform>nubbins`: what am i then. in what box do i live in, in your cosmos ? << the box where deference trumps cold reason
nubbins`: asciilifeform not in this world!~
asciilifeform: nubbins`: and here i was thinking i could at least achieve championship as arse.
nubbins`: nevermind that mp and his gurlfriend are the biggest toilet mouths in bitcoin
jurov: just to complete the picture, i had to privately calm down several people who were utterly freaked out :(
asciilifeform: nubbins`: what am i then. in what box do i live in, in your cosmos ?
nubbins`: everybody should be turbo polite & proper, except of course mp, in trinque's mind
nubbins`: trinque is too much a fanboi to be rubbed
jurov: trinque you aren't at least rubbed the wrong way by mp's approach?
nubbins`: man, if there's one person i stopped reading earlier today, it's trinque
trinque goes to cleanse the vile spirits elsewhere
trinque: the way one forgets and falls back into the patterns of his youth.. it almost makes one believe in danielpbarron's demons :p
asciilifeform: nubbins`: if tomorrow mircea_popescu decides that i am an imbecile and never speaks to me again, i will build exactly same items. and even offer him free sample!
trinque: given he has no business with any of these companies, he's what? serving the public?
trinque: and serves merely to satisfy something within nubbins`
trinque: ^ see, this is fucking emotional nonsense
nubbins`: <+mircea_popescu>let me point out to you that bitbet came down over my realisation that this is how you lot think. stop fucking thinking like this before i have to cut more heads. <<< or, put another way, "stfu talking dangerous talk, alf, or s.nsa is next"
trinque: I reject the notion of having no face entirely
trinque: I can see your perspective there
asciilifeform: precisely the opposite of 'i just want to x, leave me be.'
asciilifeform: and by commenting, was fulfilling what i see as my obligation to work in the forum.
asciilifeform: i do not have strong emotions about bbet, or the participating folks.
asciilifeform: trinque: i bring it up because i reject the accusation of partaking in the emotional wreck.
asciilifeform: terraform the mournful pesthole, one square metre at a time
trinque: and this world fucking sucks
trinque: that amounts to "I just want to" and saying the world is somebody else's problem
asciilifeform: (and along the way teaches me useful stuff.)
asciilifeform: it is because mircea_popescu invited me. and i only stayed because he works with me on planeteering tech.
trinque: lest we continue to look like emotionally crippled morons
trinque: maybe time to let the case be handled by davout and move on to better things
asciilifeform: i bet ninjashitgun & co are rubbing their cocks raw with glee reading the last 3 wks of logz.
trinque: I couldn't agree more with that.
asciilifeform: the only people for whom this is 'great time' is: the enemy.
asciilifeform: trinque: stage is set for various folks doing smashingly dumb things because 'would otherwise lose face.'
jurov: very ungreat time
trinque: it was a great time
trinque: why? everyone got to satisfy his emotional needs, feel a part of the process, get his voice heard.
asciilifeform: and not only i have nfi, but i sorta wish i had taken vacation to the jungle for past 3 wks.
jurov: asciilifeform: you know, hanbot is trained to see such angles :D
nubbins`: <+hanbot>this "lord" shit is pretty ridiculous by now eh. << actually fucking ridiculous from the start, but with occasional convenient side effects
asciilifeform: (e.g., i never saw the ' mircea_popescu ought to personally eat the expense ' angle )
asciilifeform realizes that NOBODY agrees with asciilifeform on > 1 piece of this. but unsurprise.
assbot: Logged on 23-03-2016 20:04:38; jurov: kakobrekla hanbot is trying to explain to everyone that mp, by covering operator error and covering other expenses, earned the moral right to sometimes shift the bill to the shareholders as he deems fit
jurov: re:2 i was being IRONIC. and waited whether you take the bait
hanbot: jesus fuck jurov, were you bitching about bad faith or not? were you using the fact mp ate a loss before as a justification for why he should do it again or not?
jurov: for me not to "use established good faith thusly" or some such
jurov: if that's what you want?
jurov: and i actually mentioned the "good faith" question like 3 times in two days. and i don't like to repeat myself. were not for hanbot, it would be well safely buried in the logs by now.
mircea_popescu: let me point out to you that bitbet came down over my realisation that this is how you lot think. stop fucking thinking like this before i have to cut more heads.
mircea_popescu: jurov i want you to explain your notion of "some precedent". use clear language and be sure you can stick with its meaning.
trinque: this pissing in the face of people who try to create worlds gives me zero cause for optimism about the future.
asciilifeform: and not because he 'raises us to lords' or what.
asciilifeform: i like mircea_popescu because he's a fella who tips pencils.
asciilifeform: anyway i'm not personally mentally invested in any of this, and won't shed so much as nanoliter of tear .
jurov: hanbot actually, i was NOT writing it in that context, it was in context of whether mispayments were ever considered against future bet winnings. so you did yourself disservice by connecting these things, and it's actually interesting you keep doing it
mircea_popescu: at least if i throw money at whores i get a dance.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 1st thing that always gets raised, when you raise a crowd, is its opinion of self.