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mircea_popescu: I realise that there are some ppl that allready invested in asic and fpga, but ton off ppl are unsatisfied with this.
mircea_popescu: "ASIC's are not a natural technological generation leap like going from CPU to GPU was. ASIC's are simply specialized processing units made specifically for Bitcoin. Which i do not beleive is following the original intentions of Satoshi, for many reasons."
mircea_popescu: dub i kinda open source them
jcpham: i'm not even interested in digests
mircea_popescu: i get digests
dub: I burnt out on it pretty quick
jcpham: i haven't read ny of the forum fud
mircea_popescu: i mean ror
dub: typical chinese, 'of course i lied, lol'
jcpham: i didn't believe it though
jcpham: i've heard that from the beginning
jcpham: see i'm not even paying attention
jcpham: i see 69 GH/s in cgminer do 800+ shares/min
jcpham: if i had to guess
jborkl: For 1 million I can make you a picture with words in it too
mircea_popescu: i guess this is why Diablo-D3 doesn't have a propertah
Diablo-D3: lol, why would I have a vinyard
dub: Diablo-D3: then I would show up on your property with the police and a lot of earthworking equipment to restore the damage
Diablo-D3: dub: so I'd destroy them if they were on my property
smickles: hmm, i wonder what I was thinking of then
Schadenfreude: ah, I thought it's a safety feature, not a feat of laziness
dub: I thought water rights were a huge deal in some states
mircea_popescu: maybe i could schroedingerize.
kakobrekla: yeah, well i guess the question is
mircea_popescu: what am i, mafalda ?
mircea_popescu: and if i run off i benefit bitcoin through decreased coin supply ?
mircea_popescu: wait. so if i keep going i benefit bitcoin through developing finance + paying mpoe-pr to aggravate forum people
kakobrekla: if i could.
mircea_popescu: i'd wager you can implement almost all currently used wall street contract types
jurov: quite an idea. i can perhaps plunder smickles' short offering to cover IDIFFs
jurov: when i do MKFUT, instead of bitcoins, mpex would get equivalent value in S.MPOE from my acct into escrow
jurov: i heard at least some ppl from mag got paid veeery nicely :D
jurov: i can try ask if they'll pay me for that :p
mircea_popescu: but then again i guess miners aren't (yet) too sophisticated, financially.
mircea_popescu: i'd go as far as to say it's financially irresponsible for any large-ish mining operation to not hedge diff
Bugpowder: but someone else got it I guess
mircea_popescu: triple by midmarch, i guess so
Bugpowder: I was thinking of covering my short 20 MARs
jurov: whether i do or not, the collateral requirement causes it to be unattractive. compared to what else can be done with the cash
mircea_popescu: they should be pretty straightforward, i have no idea why people don't use them a lot more.
jurov: i'm tryting to do something w/them
burnside: well, one of the key things I don't want are the ponzi kind of things to take off, so tot volume on those just ends up being a promotion...
burnside: that's a good point. I had it in there before I had 30d available, kind of as a sign of "seniority".
burnside: I'm not sure what to do with it. I tried <sub> and <sup> variations, etc.
burnside: yeah, one of the reasons I don't like it much.
burnside: I still don't like it much, but it's better than it was
mircea_popescu: i'll tell you something tho, it's good that you changed the way 7day etc volume is presented
burnside: I know he understands it under the hood, he coded the same stuff.
mircea_popescu: i wonder if they have crystal meth dildos on sr.
Bugpowder: I have locked myself out of my account like that before.
topace: mircea_popescu: ahh, k, see, i new there was a problem :p
topace: i placed a BID at 750000
topace: so, im back to where i was, there's SOMETHING WRONG with the site :p
topace: i placed a BID for 3500 at 750000
mod6: OH. i see what your issue is topace
jurov: hm, i see
burnside: as I've done for him a couple of times.
burnside: or if he'd pm'd and said, "hey, I think there might be a hole"
burnside: well, it'd be one thing if I were here and it were an argument. :)
jurov: burnside, i mean what is it good for - if after having argument on irc, i'll to go to btctalk and announce there "look he said this, he is a liar, etc"
burnside: jurov, yeah, I do. I don't have a pr person to set ppl straight like MP, gotta do it myself. :(
topace: i placed an order, its not in my STAT and it hasnt been executed
DeadWeasel: seems like the best way to get us ignorant folk into the game. but maybe ignorant folk in the asset game is a bad thing. i don't know.
Bugpowder: I used to be the same way :,-D
thestringpuller: ;;later tell Namworld send me an email later if I am not around so that I can get in touch with you about the vps, I wrote up everything this morning. send me a message
Bugpowder: damn. I thought someone just sold me some puts
kakobrekla: https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6974317568/hAD51E1D3/
azx: "pizzaman1337 | mircea_popescu: I'm guessing you did financial stuff?" - mircea_popescu | in a sense, yeah.
mircea_popescu: azx i've never commented on that topic.
dust-otc: I really should try to fix up some of my gpus
mircea_popescu: jcpham i suspect the more efficient gpus are atm the baseline
jcpham: i like how the price is going up making my gpus seem less crazy
mircea_popescu: i contemplated it at the time but preferred to pass.
topace: the longer asics are delayed, the more moneys worth i get from the fpgas
mircea_popescu: yeah i think fpgas will turn out to be the best investments ever.
mircea_popescu: the problem with "are scams" arguments in btc is that the chances of it becoming purely semantinc are so high. most are idiots rather than scammers i guess.
dust-otc: I admit that it is possible that Avalon/BFL are scams, especially BFL, but I don't think it is likely
mircea_popescu: and i can't bring myself to throw 100 btc on this either, im not invested in them either way
DeadWeasel: Yes, I'll have 14 units of ASICs please.
mircea_popescu: dust-otc well... im not sure i want even odds on that, and i'm not sure "a unit" means anything in this context.
dust-otc: mircea_popescu: with the terms I listed, i'm willing to bet up to 100btc
mircea_popescu: i already have a list and it's on my nerves ;/
mircea_popescu: i don't like the having to keep track of private beds
dust-otc: I don't like the variable odds
pizzaman1337: mircea_popescu: I'm guessing you did financial stuff?
mircea_popescu: i retired back in 2004
azx: i was afk. url
azx: I guess anything to do with mining turns out to be a scam sooner or later
mircea_popescu: i guess there's also the asicminer ppl. tho they're about three weeks late on their revised estimates without a good reason by now/
mircea_popescu: i wonder if this sounded better in chinese.
kakobrekla: im in contact with 2 different asic devs and none of them has even announced anything, yet i know one was ahead of bfl
topace: i think BFL will deliver in april
topace: well, i do, becuase they dont exist...
topace: i just dont understand WHY they couldnt release a simple video of their units hashing away
DeadWeasel: no sorry, i was registering my nick, text cleared it all off, didn't see it
jurov: DeadWeasel, i just called ticker. do you have me on ignore? :DDD
Bugpowder: I made an account and an album!
mircea_popescu: http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/chart.png?width=940&m=mtgoxUSD&SubmitButton=Draw&r=60&i=&c=0&s=&e=&Prev=&Next=&t=S&b=&a1=&m1=10&a2=&m2=25&x=0&i1=&i2=&i3=&i4=&v=1&cv=0&ps=0&l=0&p=0&
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla lol ok. i'll put it on the bj list
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla i got as far as to where some dood walks in and kills the ho atop him