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ben_vulpes: ;;later
tell pete_dushenski interesting! so one can either borrow at a low rate and expect no return, or borrow at a high rate and pray for a return?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: nevermind
that
the
tools in 'hackerspaces' are invariably so completely out of
true as
to be useless
phf: a side effect of all
things being interconnected,
http://glyf.org/tmp/all-one.png searching for bitcoind includes annotations, which in
this case
take you
to correct follow ups
phf: the one where people can
tokenize and write queries and shit
phf: should probably call
this search grep, and have
that as first
thing, eventually
to be replaced by proper search-a-tron
phf: which returns 29-08-2015 14:14:55 <mircea_popescu> maybe you're right, and it's incidentals. or maybe lisp
to
the young mind is like meth-lsd
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ideally,
they go in
the form of renting
time from a workshop wtf is
this my garage is my workshop artisan
thing. << Arises from
the idea
that public
tools are icky
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: 5, but my dick has been inside 1 of
them so 20% interesting rate.
pete_dushenski: shinohai: we'll be consultants! like dogbert's bit wherein he sells $1k books on how
to become a millionaire. inside book it suggests "sell 1k books for $1k!"
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: piracy is, after all, easier
than bagging a lunch
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Only people I know from
timisoara left
there.
phf: good for mp internet, lynx, batch email u/d, git pull/push. basically all you need
to do work (all i need anyway)
pete_dushenski: " With only 7% of Canadians having mortgage
terms between six and 10 years, long
terms are not a popular choice in Canada.
They are even less popular amongst younger age groups at only 3% uptake in ages 18-34."
BingoBoingo: <phf> proper way
to deal with iowa is buy a house, get your 800$/mo satellite internet (not even checking what's available, why bother), and do your aerospace/banking/medical it consulting work remote << In Iowa you can probably get fiber internet unless you conciously decide
to farm or hermit
pete_dushenski: ;;later
tell ben_vulpes it may well be
that i hail from narnia, but yes, interest rates and house prices are inversely correlated. furthermore, and i forget sometimes
that americans lock in rates for entire mortgages, but canadians
typically renegotiate
their rates every 5 years. longer
terms are available, but it's been +ev
to
take shorter
terms for so long
that i don't know of a single homeowner who doesn't do 5-year
term
phf: boyer-mooring brought it down
to 0.34s
phf: asciilifeform:
to be fair v doesn't solve
third one
phf: jurov: so asdf solves first
two, asdf-install used
to solve
third one, now superseded by quicklisp
phf: so you generally have
two problems, one is "how do i group
together multiple source code files in order
to indicate
they are part of same codebase", second is "how do i indicate dependency of
this codebase on
this other codebase" and
third is "how do i autodownload
things from internet"
phf: ah, "asdf-install" is an old really hacky way of install lisp packages,
that would pull
things from cliki.net. it was very broken
phf: jurov: also i agree as far as swank being piece of shit, it's just
that it supports a certain development style
that you can't get anywhere else, except smalltalk
phf: really, asdf lets you do "load all my source" quite
trivially as long as you packed it into a package ahead of
time
phf: also proper slad should be smart about resource handling on fork, like sockets. i
think
this is all somehow handled by
the vm, but you still want
to explore it
trinque: for now I'll just
turd out a save-lisp-and-die and go from
there
pete_dushenski called out
the fact
that "fixed veedubs" will be worth ~more~
than
their unneutered counterparts on
the used market.
this confirms it.
phf: the whole swank debug on error
thing is just not as good as Squeak/smalltalk
pete_dushenski: ty cycle brought on by changes in engine programming may significantly reduce
the
time between major services for
TDI engines coupled
to a manual
transmission." << /me falls off chair
pete_dushenski: "Drivers may notice a decrease in fuel efficiency of between 5 and 32 percent, depending on climate, engine model year, and driving habits. Some drivers may also notice a decrease in power under certain conditions, such as full-throttle driving or highway operation. In some
tests,
the power rating of
the VW
TDI engine was affected by as much as 26 percent during full-throttle operation in cold climates. Finally,
the increas
phf: i played with swank on live webserver setup (back when marco's UnCommonWeb was a
thing) and quickly gave up on it, when i was hit with a bug
that 100+ people
triggered
jurov: phf, as a lisp newbie i wondered why asdf is so consistently
tagged "obsolete" everywhere
phf: trinque: so just deploy
the way you would normally deploy and write a simple set of operator commands (or even a menu driven
thing) for repl,
that you can control
things over. "press 1
to asdf reload :FOO package, press 2
to reinitilize data, etc."
phf: swank is pretty useless on prod, unless you jump
through all hoops ahead of
time and get it
to a casual state. you want ssh files
to work and
trump is still slow for
that, so you have
to do fusefs
phf: trinque: rsync,
tmux, asdf, really nothing smarter
than
that
☟︎ phf: jurov: i can often get slightly better performance out of cmucl
than out of c on critical paths, so
that was purely algorithmic question under
the assumption
that i can easily get within same ballpark with
the right algo
trinque: phf: hey how do you deploy a lisp
thing?
PeterL: what if you heat
the hydrogen?
PeterL: but nature abhors a vacuum, would be like inciting
the wrath of God
PeterL: use atomic instead of molecular hydrogen - half
the mass, so lifts
twice as much!
pete_dushenski: "The Local Dirigible Manufacturing requirement is expected
to kickstart a nascent aerospace industry in Alberta, furthering government’s effort
to diversify
the economy. " << kek
phf: fare had
to make "hacking on asdf" videos just
to get people
to read
the damn
thing
phf: i'd read it
to figure out what
the "improvements" are, but i can't, because
the new code is ~insane~
phf: i mean, 75kb or readable lisp vs. 560kb or crazy "with-upgradability" macros
that break cross-referencing, etc.
phf: quicklisp depends on asdf, in fact hard depends on asdf3. it
takes exactly
three places
to patch it
to support 1.369 and it continues working
phf: ches in
the walls. dodgy/clever hacks, "modern ecosystem" "improvements", etc. etc.
phf: from
the world of lisp rot, asdf,
the `make' of common lisp, has been gaining features for a while now
to
the point
that it contains all kinds of crazy shit, like a fullblown cross-lisp compatibility layer for various file operations, etc. so i pulled version 1.369, last one before faré
took over
the operations, it is 75kb vs current 560k (which is itself packed from a large repo). not surprisingly it works, but when it doesn't it exposes cockroa
PeterL: just outsource law enforcement all
the way and make it illegal for people
to break
the laws!
phf: when's gabriel_laddel going
to join us
danielpbarron: and general
trend of "oh ~now~ reddit plays ball with USG (implication
that it hadn't been already)"
trinque: asciilifeform: smells like a general
trend of making companies get used
to acting as part of law enforcement
danielpbarron: i recall
the original silk road had it's own .onion web forum, but i guess
this was
too hard for
the kids who showed up after it was cool
trinque: and 1337
terrorists in private subreddits
trinque: asciilifeform:
there are direct messages on reddit
phf: (Erm `room' on a lisp says how much you're using rather
than how much is left)
phf: My assumption is always +inf but I like
to keep heap minimal out of sportsmanship
phf: I
think joins and quits add a lot of extra noise
phf: So kako's dump which is only id;timestamp;nick;message adds up
to ~~150mb
mircea_popescu: phf how much is
the actual log incidentally ? i see well over 600mb here.
mircea_popescu: like it or not, we, or at least i, actually DO
tokenize by space.