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BingoBoingo: shinohai: practice? Start a blawg to practice writing and then submit newsy things to qntra?
shinohai: BingoBoingo: << Pile more qntra shares on top of them? <<< since I suck at writing, I don't see that happening.
mircea_popescu: in other news, Pavlichenko was later invited by Eleanor Roosevelt to tour America relating her experiences. While meeting with reporters in Washington, D.C. she was dumbfounded about the kind of questions put to her. "One reporter even criticized the length of the skirt of my uniform, saying that in America women wear shorter skirts and besides my uniform made me look fat".
phf: now lets see, the pink pantaloons are out, and yellow jockstraps are in. the handkerchief should be in the ~left~ pocket of your velvet vest and not ~right~ pocket of a wwii bomber jacket. that one tripped up a bunch of contenders. last minute addition was a brooch, make sure it matches the cravat, not a ground for dismissal, but judges look favorably at lord applicants that are aware of only the latest tmsr fashions
mats: whats the new criteria for lordliness?
mats: sick day today :)
gribble: Lyudmila Pavlichenko - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyudmila_Pavlichenko>; Eleanor Roosevelt and the Soviet Sniper | History | Smithsonian: <http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/eleanor-roosevelt-and-the-soviet-sniper-23585278/>; lyudmila Pavlichenko - Soviet WWII sniper hero - YouTube: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJHpWPBtEwQ>
BingoBoingo: <shinohai> ;;later tell BingoBoingo when you have time, need to discuss what do with my paltry qntra shares. << Pile more qntra shares on top of them?
mircea_popescu: bout 50%, iirc, that sometimes.
asciilifeform: a man taken by siguranza could, sometimes, be turned loose upon receipt of proper bribe.
asciilifeform: incidentally the folks of odessa preferred ro occupants to germans. for an interesting reason.
mircea_popescu: it's the fucking fathers that dropped the ball.
mircea_popescu: hey, my grandfather beat teh russkis outta odessa.
mircea_popescu: mechanical turbulence in fluids ~10^8 more than electrical turbulence in conductors.
phf: my grandfather spent all his time implementing, than architecting, than overseeing bunch of other people implementing and architecting analogue avionics for su rockets, mil and "gagarin space man" kind
asciilifeform: but what can you do, orcish landz, not enough transistor for everybody.
asciilifeform: pretty sad thing to do in 1950s-60s imho
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what did 'research' consist of there ? re-creating z80 ?
shinohai: ;;later tell BingoBoingo when you have time, need to discuss what do with my paltry qntra shares.
mircea_popescu: i'm all for "20 years ago", but they're fucking idiots.
asciilifeform: phf: you need a man willing to pull the pin, yes. BUT you ALSO need the pin !
mircea_popescu: hey, my own father spent what he imagined to be his golden years, at the time and after that time, doing "research" for his government on supposedly, computing, but really, holding each other's dicks like a bunch of chimps.
mircea_popescu: or that.
asciilifeform: 'the best time is 20 yrs ago, 2nd best - today'
mircea_popescu: which is why best time's today.
mircea_popescu: the only counter is that there is no such thing as too soon in the flesh. until the time one stands up from couch, just how out of shape one is will never be known.
asciilifeform: phf: this goes back, again, to mircea_popescu's human-element. see the 'pulling the pin' thread from 2 wks ago
mircea_popescu: phf you are not alone in the view that this whole thing is too soon.
phf: would still want to figure out a bunch of problems before applying it "with computers" anyway, crypto, airgap, having it stored in a such a way that the inevitable arrest doesn't result in "5000 financial records were recovered in a daring raid by the brave constables"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nono, the use of ~~~SCIENCE~~~ will allow a collection of bureaucrats to satisfy in practice the delusional requirements of what mp "should have been"
asciilifeform: though an argument can be made that the quality of human material available in practice is ~considerably~ below what was around 100, much less 2000y ago.
asciilifeform: hey we're still using the same humanz
mircea_popescu: they only seem fundamental to the hordes of spawn for which a soul couldn't be found, so they ended up consumers.
mircea_popescu: yes, could benefit from soap and electricity, but these aren't fundamental changes
mircea_popescu: i am convinced it is the best we can do, as far as the human element goes.
phf: given the state of things, i'm not convinced that hawala is the worst we can do ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> because without this, a computer is not an asset, but a catastrophicly limitless liability. << hey, it doesn't matter, usg will pretend to be mp and make it all good!11
asciilifeform: rms lived on the spine of a usgtronic dragon, and it is not clear to me that he had any influence in reality over what the dragon did
phf: kind of like rms bringing back mit ai lab, when all the cool kids left for smbx
asciilifeform: and you might as well go back to hawala and broken clay tablet halves as pgp.
asciilifeform: because without this, a computer is not an asset, but a catastrophicly limitless liability.
asciilifeform: and at this point i don't much care what burns, for it to come back.
asciilifeform: even if it takes napalm.
asciilifeform: phf: guess what, this is coming back!1111
phf: that's also an idea from "when everything had a spec, and everything was written to spec, and things just fit into each other neatly" decades
asciilifeform: (incidentally this is an actual thing, and a decade ago i actually thought that i invented it, but then learned that it was cristina cifuentes's thesis)
asciilifeform: that is, if i want to run it on an arch that gets auto-genned on my fpga every morning, i oughta be able to.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is the basic principle of 'specificity of diddling' (for fuck's sake it needs a name)
phf: but first we port symbolics ada to scheme-81, so we can compile trb with symbolics ada
mircea_popescu: and what do you plan to run bitcoin on, elbruses ?
asciilifeform: (ALL of them, not simply x86)
asciilifeform: i actually REMOVED the asm optimizations from my fork of gmp, for instance.
asciilifeform: phf: definitely not the latter, x86 is to be killed and cement poured where it is buried
phf: i'm just anticipating the next tmsr language
asciilifeform: 9 or so of the remaining % is because you get static memory (no consing, no gc, FORCED to intelligently allocate).
asciilifeform: if this were available somewhere else, i would look into the somewhere else.
asciilifeform: 90% of why i like ada is that it 'compiles like c' (i.e. without massive runtime or bytecode claptrap in place of ida-able binary) WHILE having bounds-checked array accesses etc.
asciilifeform: folks who have been experimenting with gnat prolly already realized this. but i am leaving it here for n00bz.
asciilifeform: so piecemeal organ replacement is a realizable thing.
asciilifeform: the reason i asked was that i noticed that ada links just fine with cpp crud, both having been shat out of ordinary gcc
mircea_popescu: truth be told our diligent efforts over the years - and by our i mean mostly not mine - exposed so many hooks for fixing and improving it's not even funny.
asciilifeform: again these are mircea_popescutronic questions! they leave aside the issue of 'have we the divisions'
mircea_popescu: on the contrary - the more crud that can be snipped the very better.
asciilifeform: aha this is what i thought.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there is no good reason - for the contemplated july alternative offering
asciilifeform: in other 'news', in my dream, mircea_popescu was camping in a tent in my house, and reading a dead tree copy of the logz summarized by somebody or other, and it was a thing on ancient yellowed paper, he cursed and spat and in the end tore it up and started smashing things, then went out the door and started firing some sort of energy weapon at the trees
asciilifeform: (the issue of whether the muscle exists, to do this, is a separate question. the above is simply re the political aspect of whether it is a thing that is even to be contemplated.)
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu i had a notion: if we're no longer holding the 'father's pistols' line, is there any good reason not to replace openssl in trb with, e.g., ada bignum ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have not forgotten the broadcast! it will appear tonight.
mircea_popescu: during that blank space, the jews conquered egypt and started a new dynasty, founded carthage, tyre, byblos, etc ; dominated the golden crescent and so on.
mircea_popescu: but these are all considerations for one millennium prior to what the europeans generally regard as "history".
mircea_popescu: aramaic script is a variation thereof.
mircea_popescu: yes because there's no l1 outside of this
danielpbarron: .. the second one, with 155 in l2
mircea_popescu: well there's no mir cea
mircea_popescu: seems to be doing ok ?
deedbot: $get trust herro is not a command.
mircea_popescu: $get trust herro
trinque: that's the other bug on the list so far
trinque: danielpbarron: might've had extraneous whitespace somewhere in the command
danielpbarron: trinque, i did gettrust PeterL and gettrust jurov in private to make him leave the 2nd time
mircea_popescu: sister to "if you see a hungarian speaking foreign languages, you're looking at a jew."
trinque: PeterL's problem was that the thing's caps sensitive; I'm going to fix that today
trinque: what'd you say to the bot before it parted and rejoined?
danielpbarron: the Armenians are of very similar decent : they are from Aram, a grandson of Noah
trinque: danielpbarron: imma teach you guys to give proper bug reports :p
mircea_popescu: "my sons... preserve the jews! for once they're gone...
mircea_popescu: "my sons, preserve the jews!"
danielpbarron: no, what's that?
danielpbarron: I don't claim to or care to study all religion, except to say that I will often look into those claiming to believe the Bible for the purpose of exposing false teachings to whoever showed it to me
mircea_popescu: you know the joke with the old armenian patriarch dieing in anhalt ?
mircea_popescu: amusingly, the parts that didn't come there in the shape of "look what books we can't read we stole from the jews, let's ignore half the sentences" came there in the shape of "look what books we can't read we stole from the armenians, let's ignore half the sentences".
mircea_popescu: well... if one's to study religion, even if limiting it to europe, there's a lot more there than anyone cares to admit.
mircea_popescu: and the imprisoned sophia in his chin dribble ?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron you familiar with the old idea that you know, the creation-god is this hunchback covetous idiot of a fellow,
danielpbarron: at a quick glance, I see cathars believed the old testament God was a different God than the one in the new testament
mircea_popescu: and to anything else, also.
mircea_popescu: PeterL no, i am saying that opposition to myself has ~0 chances to come from the sort of mind that ignores half of what happens.
mircea_popescu: in opposition to the unitarian approach in power.
mircea_popescu: ideologically, they, like the manicheans (yes, hence maniheism) and the bogomils and early gnostic christians held some things about the dual nature of the perceptible world