log☇︎
311400+ entries in 0.191s
asciilifeform: to be complete, it oughta also contain a reminder that there is not a forest where you can put 10 bil. wolves.
phf: It started with wolf teaching rabbits to hunt with a playfulness and earnestly "this how you put mouth on jugular see!!" with rabbits going "eww jugular how to hunt carrots like mp?" with an obvious "wtf durp" response
asciilifeform: i recall he had a spiffy article, where he cooked up an alternative to the maslow 'pyramid' thing, with 'mystical domination - being right when there was no good reason you could be right' as #5
asciilifeform: could it be because fella himself took a strongly -ev tack and won ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: it is actually interesting to me, how mircea_popescu has a very strong respect for folks who take suicidally dumb risks (e.g., the 'oregon patriot' folk, isis snackbars, etc.)
phf: Sure it's idiotic but that's where conversation ~ended~ with an obvious "eat a naggant" response
asciilifeform: but briefly back to thread, imho it is important to understand that asking 'how to be mircea_popescu' is a fundamentally broken question, not unlike 'how do i win the lotto'
asciilifeform: because they are dumb enough to do a screamingly -ev thing ☟︎
asciilifeform: this is sorta why the 'r-strategy' game is played with teenagers
phf: And it's most definitely that you can't reason out of minimax, so sitting there "how does" is not going to work
asciilifeform: though mircea_popescu appears to think so.
phf: Anyway I can't communicate that point because I only infrequently manage it, and the results are always predictably +ev, but perhaps it's the idea that minimax requires painful break, but then possibility space opens up and a talented person like yourself will have a relatively easy (though not effortless) time exploiting it
phf: Maybe I got the name wrong, about young Arab in prison
phf: You seen the prophet?
asciilifeform: phf: how does 'move to argentina and do cash' work on folks who ain't already rich
phf: It was causes/purposes, original be rich guide, move to Argentina do cash, etc.
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-08#1448877 >> i routinely sit 3-4 h/day in car. << I knew a guy who went by train from Madison, Ct to NYC every weekday, and another guy who went from rhode island!! to NYC, also train. And to tie into current thread, there was a 3rd guy on the train who was mormon. ☝︎
phf: Actually I remember threads from perhaps 2014 where mp was trying to communicate mp-ness, my impression is that he gave up from lack of grokking
asciilifeform: i used to work right next to it
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: they give tours
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: have you ever been inside mormon temple ? unless you're architect or engineer who built the thing, or practising mormon thereafter, the answer is nope.
asciilifeform: (given as the marriages are not officiated by usg, the women all register as welfare mother cases)
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: not so secretly, they - and the hassidim of nyc - collect 'single mother' pensions by the megatonne
pete_dushenski: danielpbarron: i hear you, i do. but it's sorta over and done with at this point.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: also how ukr farmers and rocath french-canadians rose to prominence in the last few centuries in this country : 8 children families sop. mormons continue this practise (plus mega-secrecy) and they're not doing too shabbily by most measures.
asciilifeform: yes, it is interesting to know, e.g., how petroleum was formed in the ground, from dead organisms
danielpbarron: pete_dushenski, I'm just sayin' my bid was valid, and the first! I can sign something to this effect if anyone seriously doubts
asciilifeform: anyway i regard the algo as being ~entirely uninteresting.
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 420.71, Best ask: 420.81, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 420.71, 24 hour volume: 6944.94381268, 24 hour low: 420.01, 24 hour high: 424.49, 24 hour vwap: None
pete_dushenski: how canada still makes hockey players too, though this is the solitary domain where this strategy is herein employed.
asciilifeform: it is an ~ablative~ rather than an ~additive~ manufacturing process.
asciilifeform: his algo, in my summary, was, approx., 'start by being 10,000 bright and suicidally daring ro teenagers in the roaring '90s, end by being one mircea_popescu' or the like. ☟︎
asciilifeform: actually it is how they make mircea_popescus.
ben_vulpes: slightly less time consuming than attempting to jump through the vault door, i suppose
asciilifeform: (or, alternatively, where the pistol jammed) ☟︎
asciilifeform: according to everett's mechanics, the outcome of using this device is that you wake up in the universe where the primes were guessed.
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell danielpbarron http://www.contravex.com/2016/04/07/that-time-i-let-outright-ownership-of-bitbet-slip-through-my-fingers/#comment-43166
asciilifeform: and if it fails, it shoots the user in the head
asciilifeform: at any rate, everett device is this gadget that tries to guess the answer to a trapdoor problem, e.g., deriving mircea_popescu's private key primes
asciilifeform: BUT it has the advantage of removing the idiot vitalism that bohr pissed back into physics
asciilifeform: e's model is not physically demonstable as THE correct model (but neither is bohr's)
asciilifeform: fella who proposed 'parallel universes' treatment of qm, vs bohr's original 'magically collapsing wavefunction when you look at it'
shinohai: ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://ix.io/vG3
pete_dushenski: not that i recall
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: were you here for the 'everett's device' thread ?
asciilifeform: 'go and eat a pistol, first pray to vishnu that you can be reborn hot chik'
pete_dushenski: nah, he'll remind you that soviet chick doesn't need to know when 'wall falls', just needs to know right guy to get her through to other side. there was mega-thread on this at one point.
asciilifeform: and also will probably not forget to remind that i am ~useless and will be pig food eventually
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu will probably, when he wakes up, remind me that i oughta learn a new profession, e.g, organ grinder
asciilifeform: b) the folks who ~are~ hiring reversers, CAN'T FIND them
asciilifeform: a) there is ~0 demand for the things i know how to do among honest-work folks
asciilifeform: i have learned that:
pete_dushenski: so much for that theory
pete_dushenski: and here i was thinking that we were #1 google hit besttimeeverytime
asciilifeform: in fact i got a call from no less than motherfucking ft meade the other day.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i actually don't have much to choose from. 95+% of work in my field requires usg 'top secret'.
pete_dushenski: surprised you haven't programmed own autonomous car ferfuxake. it wouldn't take a month's worth of time stuck behind idiotic wheel in mordor traffic
pete_dushenski: i, for one, couldn't imagine spending >1hr just to ~travel~ to work and back. each way. my mind boggles that millions in 'first world' spend 3hrs+ (this is sop in, say, toronto)
asciilifeform: dun understand why i should have to, to write motherfucking software ☟︎
asciilifeform: i'm simply tired of having to leave the house.
pete_dushenski: done pulling up excel when boss walks by so soon ? or is guy who stormed out setting a precedent you're keen to follow ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-08#1448821 << on top of my usual doings i now also spend time looking for wurk... ☝︎
jurov: or do the hijacking properly in all cases where it's needed, like polimedia.us -> trilema.com
phf: old urls are still hijacked though, i think i'm going to disable that, and let just arrows do their thing
pete_dushenski: in other news, autonomous semi trucks are about to get the vote : http://qz.com/656104/a-fleet-of-trucks-just-drove-themselves-across-europe/
jurov: ok, ty
phf: also url patching facility is from before the arrows, so to some extent can now be dropped entirely
phf: jurov: that's obviously a bug and should be fixed :) i just want to have our priors straight
jurov: I expressly request that when i *today* drop #b-a URL , it should NOT be aliased to btcbase. ☟︎
phf: in this case log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date urls are treated as a "pointer to a log location"
phf: urls are interpretation of what the log is saying in the display facility
jurov: and for new entries, if user links to the other place, elt it be
jurov: like, you can do do s/log.bitcoin.assets/btcbase.org/ globally on everything before the log was launched
phf: sure, the ref arrow does the same thing
jurov: *other ways than
jurov: phf: it can be soved by other ways then having different host in the label and href
phf: jurov: you're talking about this line "PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-08#1448483 << I said the same thing in the other chan a few hours earlier http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-04-2016#1443837" yeah? ☝︎☝︎
jurov: Whoever was waiting for coinbr withdrawals, mircea_popescu flushed some this morning, and I did the others now
phf: that's … intentional, but obviously breaks after the split
jurov: phf that's separate issue
phf: jurov: oh oh oh you're talking about log.bitcoin-assets urls being hijacked
pete_dushenski: shinohai: don't be surprised if ustards go that way too, particularly as average skin shade continues to endarken
jurov: but escaping of < in the output
jurov: but the problem isn't url parsing
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-08#1448528 << jurov thanks i'll look into it. i mean, the http parser consists of search "http" and then search for a set of separators, it's as ghetto as it gets, but i had better results with that approach overall than using a regex ☝︎
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: another reason why i wouldn't build my own bbet : the same reason i also wouldn't build my own cpu fab. i'm less 'inventor' than 'pro-scavenger'. i'm not 'early adopter', but rather 'fast follower'. to work to my strengths, i wouldn't start my own bbet anymore than you'd start your own strip club.
shinohai: Plus, unlike with UStards - no worries about which bathrooms to use. They shit in street!
ben_vulpes: hey, they're in the meatwot!
shinohai: BingoBoingo: link me to sauce? Will give it a whirl when I get back home.
pete_dushenski: bbet really had to be a meatwot project for me
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: i momentarily considered stan as an operational partner, but then quickly recalled the ongoing s.nsa saga and how it's basically made "two weeks" (tm) (r) his middle name. not that i fault the 'poor' bastard. he only has so many dr. octopus tentacles with which to do maffs and whatnot. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: <pete_dushenski> all non-wot is anti-wot << No. People outside the WoT can still be renown as especially evil.
BingoBoingo: Well whoever want lottery RBG story can take it. I'm not finding a sufficient outrage to attack it.
ben_vulpes: mwell, was nominating stan. wouldn'ta been averse to it myself.
BingoBoingo: Actively inside the anti-WoT
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: i think you're better off asking ivanka trump to write for qntra than shinohai. he just doesn't wanna, it seems.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell shinohai pls to write up lottery rng shennaniganz
pete_dushenski: e idea of changing min 0conf but never quite resolved that quandary myself... alas. it was going to be a steep learning curve to be sure, but i was up for the challenge.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: anyways, at a management level i had in mind to increase the vig/fee and hold on to house bet winnings in an effort to increase revenue to compensate for mistaken txen, resolutions, etc., obviously appreciating that this may, at least initially, discourage some users. was also going to tag in some meatwot to assist with moderation and actively scour meatwot for potential bookies. toyed with th
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I told you Trump was just a clinton stooge