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mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-08#1448961 << that';s not the real issue. the really issue is that SELF is not a scalar, and you'd want it to be. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and you didn't getg the name wrong, un prophete.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-08#1448952 << the incentive for hearing that, notwithstanding whatever may have been said, is that the answer's ready and includes no actual effort.\ ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-08#1448936 << this is nonsense. people are born every day. yes, you won't be able to make the present crop regain their youth / live forever / be happy / bla bla. nor are these valid goals, outside of daydreaming. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: that's also a thing
phf: problem with parsing urls is not regex or no regex, it's that you can't reliably parse a url without resorting to heuristics OR doing nlp on context. all ; , : ) are valid constituents of url path, query and fragment, so you can't know where url ends and context begins.
mircea_popescu: certainlyt most of the people i cared to hang out over the years are stiff. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-08#1448924 << this is actually eerily accurate ;/ ☝︎
mircea_popescu: nah, roman insulae were as tall as 10-12 stories.
asciilifeform: all i propose is the 'structural steel.'
asciilifeform: every bit as 'space lift tower' is today.
asciilifeform: but recall that prior to structural steel, a 6-story bldg that isn't a pyramid is a 'tower of babel'
mircea_popescu: but they'll never build such a tower of babel as to actually touch the definitive-complete-actually-happens-clockwork.
mircea_popescu: hey, there's no objection to your very valid criticisms in locus.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: present-day state of the art in programs is closer to the arab 'insha'llah' ('allah's will drives atoms to do whatever the fuck they want, what is this science thing') than to anything else.
mircea_popescu: yes, but this presumption is unwarranted.
mircea_popescu: which goes directly to your "correct program for all electrically-possible inputs". there is never going to be a very interesting program which takes an ennumeralbe list of inputs. such is the sad fate of things.
asciilifeform: in all previous physical theories, there is a solid reality presumed.
asciilifeform: dodging the question of what ~actually~ happens.
mircea_popescu: but this is a purely mental exercise, and of no particular physical relevancy, really.
mircea_popescu: sentient is in any case not the proper word. the point is that if observer future behaviour is modulated by the observation, this is one class of thing. such as is the man, or the cat. and if observer future behaviour is not so modulated, then this is another class of thing. such as a rock.
asciilifeform will have to come back to this.
asciilifeform: actually he privileged observers (e.g., the man, but not the cat)
mircea_popescu: the point is that interaction changes a system and observation is not priviledged.
asciilifeform: an idiocy that ~ought~ to have gotten bohr into a productive and happy life of tractor-driving
mircea_popescu: human has nothing to do with this.
mircea_popescu: and from this you infer that ?
asciilifeform: (he demanded a model that does not admit chance anywhere.)
mircea_popescu: and this is not meeting your standards ?
mircea_popescu: you not familiar with the scandal where einstein wouldn't take the heisenberg uncertainity ?
mircea_popescu: you just moved to scotsman argument.
mircea_popescu: you forget or simplky dunno the ridiculous phase towards the end where he was refusing various bits of physics on the grounds that they insulted his religious notions ?
mircea_popescu: right in there.
asciilifeform: and connived to bring back vitalism.
asciilifeform: the man was in a deeper sense an antiscientist than lysenko.
mircea_popescu: but the problem remains teh problem.
mircea_popescu: well, not like you have to!
mircea_popescu: this approach is so utterly naive as to rather call to mind britney spears.
mircea_popescu: for all you know, the cause and effect chain breaks down and the pistol jams BECAUSE you tied the cart to this arrangement
asciilifeform: i have 0 respect for the vitalist bohr.
mircea_popescu: biggest problem with everett's notions of qm, and why bohr was a respected physicist whereas everett was a sort of h. ellison, was that he purports to have some sort of q-independent causality.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-08#1448918 << this is no light matter. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: well then show it lol
asciilifeform: yeah i get it i read nietzsche too
mircea_popescu: this isn't how it works. decent gigs, like slutty chicks, aren't "earned", especially not in the linear, old mia farrow view of earning.
phf: but the question of link hijack remains, i will revisit it after i refine the annotation mechanism a bit
asciilifeform: (the most reality-based hypothesis is that ~asciilifeform~ simply isn't 133337 enough to score decent gig)
phf: behavior was obviously buggy, with an equally trivial fix, i.e. fragment < last-t-a-entry-id
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is a charitable interpretation
phf: "there is nothing wrong with your television set. do not attempt to adjust the picture. we are controlling transmission."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: i have learned that: a) there is ~0 demand for the things i know how to do among honest-work folks b) the folks who ~are~ hiring reversers, CAN'T FIND them << "socialism works" in other words.
mircea_popescu: but that is then. now - people link to whatever they want and it's what it is.
mircea_popescu: i can see why pre-dragon log would link to itself rather than build an outside dependency. who even knows how long the old log website will last.
phf: original purpose was to let me read log references without leaving the log reader, but jurov later suggested doing a more exhaustive link fix for deprecated urls
mircea_popescu: davout for my curiosity, did you move the hotwallet funds or did you pass the codebase along with the hotwallet ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-08#1448857 << he has a point i think ; while the semantic content of links may perhaps be argued in that way phf , seeing how for instance redirects are honored etc ; nevertheless can't simply hijack people's links. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: generally, it's the one thing most hideously implemented anywhere.
mircea_popescu: phf i bet you the reason ghetto beats regexp is that regexp is horribly implemented in w/e you use.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-08#1448825 << no he really had the right idea, something like that'd have been a great way to sanitize one's own meatwot. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-08#1448814 << no ho is too far out of wot! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i suppose the capital really should be alzheimera
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-08#1448791 << heh, prolly best bet if that's what he's after is find the freelancer.com injun that did the coding in the first place ☝︎
asciilifeform: 'you have died of [death] ! please play again.' -- 'oregon trail'
asciilifeform: i thought they died of starvation?
mircea_popescu: contrary to what the disney cartoon re-enactions of "the dinosaur age" may show for cinematic value, most dinosaurs died of organ failure, not of being eaten by a supposedly functional superpreditor that in point of fact was barely adequate to count as a manatee in modern terms.
asciilifeform: either that or we get eaten.
mircea_popescu: either that or we'll mesterul manole all over the place.
mircea_popescu: phf this sounds to me a lot like "we'll build actual programming language on top of this approximating processor thing".
mircea_popescu: "all women" maybe, and even this is dubious.
phf: maybe human hitler is ok, just as long he's not the venusian variety
asciilifeform: ultimately all living things want ridiculous things that could not possibly exist.
mircea_popescu: i'm not even sure the word want may be thus prostituted.
mircea_popescu: it is altogether dubious, however, that priest-like organisation may exist in world bereft of some sort of hitler.
phf: danielpbarron: my impression is that in all seriousness asciilifeform pines for a technology priest status in an hierarchy that's at the very least not rotten through and through, i.e. building machines for non-lizard-hitler. he despairs since one is not available. as such "become crust punk" advise is totally inapplicable to him
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-08#1448761 << had one ambushed by sluts at bdsm event thing, i thought i recounted for teh logs.\ ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-08#1448733 << there's this internet lore furry thing, so i suppose it intends to be high comedy ; but meh. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: davout i have nfi what you did here. for one thing, shareholders don't get 86, they get 86 + 1% of resolveed bets - 13.37 ☟︎
danielpbarron: and since it's not all-year-round, and since no week is even the same really, i don't really get sick of working
danielpbarron gets to sleep adlibitum for most of the year -- has seasonal job, very little sleep during that season, and zero personal time to speak of
jurov: create a business, deduct expenses etc...but that discussion's dead horse, i guess ☟︎
trinque: "why is it so hard for an mp to build his superorganism?" is a more interesting question to me than "why not moar mp?"
asciilifeform: more still, if you count the 'tax breaks' other usians get (e.g. mortgage) that i don't.
asciilifeform: jurov: i presently pay ~50% tax.
jurov: no, it's just because you have cut yourself from most exits by forbidding yourself to pay any taxes
trinque: back to the thread, considering people in isolation is an artifact of this world's thinking.
asciilifeform: jurov: from my current position it is as fantastical as going to mars.
trinque thinks of ender wielding legions as though they are part of his extended body ☟︎
trinque: asciilifeform: seems exactly the right thing to happen right before another power vertical is established
asciilifeform: jurov: nah, if i wanted to play, i oughta have played when i was 5
trinque: jurov: who the fuck are you talking to, the audience?
asciilifeform: from my admittedly amateur understanding, mircea_popescus are produced when power verticals ~collapse~ and teenagers are competing in re cutting throats rather than who can be best young sov bureaucrat.
trinque: I'd say it has everything to do with the architecture of human societies.
asciilifeform: trinque: precious little to do with countries.
trinque: asciilifeform: seems on the order of magnitude of the number of countries.
asciilifeform: i have nfi how many mircea_popescus fit on one earth, but i doubt that even 100 do. ☟︎
trinque: (in all fairness to the rabbits, I'm aware of at least one instance of a rabbit eating the ears off his weaker brother)
trinque: one's a pile of fungible derps; the other pointedly isn't
trinque: the lottery metaphor doesn't square with the wolves and rabbits metaphor at all.
asciilifeform: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2012/02/wheel-of-misfortune.html << while we're on the subj.
punkman: asciilifeform: but briefly back to thread, imho it is important to understand that asking 'how to be mircea_popescu' is a fundamentally broken question, not unlike 'how do i win the lotto' << hey we just had the answer to lotto. you cheat.