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mircea_popescu: in an ordinary zoo, humans are scored like in any other employment. by how often they come late, and other factors.
mircea_popescu: the fiat world is not such. yes, it has the choice to either become such, in which case we won, or else keep trying to pretend no child left behind. in which case we win. etc.
mircea_popescu: the correct model, ie, the zoo, is right here. the republic is a zoo. outsiders are kept in cage.
asciilifeform: (who is scored in an ordinary zoo, and how? i dun follow the analogy)
mircea_popescu: a better model would be "a zoo where the humans are scored by how many times the animals have sex with them"
asciilifeform: generally, they stay on the correct side of the bars.
asciilifeform: fiat world is exactly as secure as... the zoo.
mircea_popescu: in any case : the fiat world will never be secure, no matter what.
mircea_popescu: i don't think you take the point, perhaps for lack of familiarity with anaximander.
asciilifeform: i.e. they get harvested by folks lookin' to do some infectin', and revoked immediately when the news break
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: crapple app dev keys and microshit driver keys play roughly the same role in ecosystem as that cali hearing aid shop's ssl cert.
asciilifeform: phf: meta-nsa relaxes and smokes in the corner, it doesn't need keys, sends magic udp
mircea_popescu: do you want to hear it in greek, also ?
mircea_popescu: all the knobs that are must be ; and necessarily must be. the knobs that are not, are not ; and necessarily can't be.
asciilifeform: that's how the drm prison worx
asciilifeform: well the plebe-cert-signed shit doesn't get to turn ~all~ of the knobs
mircea_popescu: they want to live in a world of idiots. this means they can never be safe. full stop.
mircea_popescu: not as drm, not as tpe, not as w/e.
asciilifeform: but something their coke machine dispenses when you stick in a benjie.
mircea_popescu: this is why the whole "security" shit dun work.
mircea_popescu: yes, the "strong wall" will be breached by the owners themselves. of course.
asciilifeform: because this is not a precious master key
mircea_popescu: i don't see how any of this is a counter to what i said.
asciilifeform: they get revoked at the drop of a hat.
asciilifeform: sign 10 times.
asciilifeform: understand, this means that somebody cought up $100
mircea_popescu: totally shooting the discussion re "trusted cpu".
asciilifeform: (in the old days this was unheard of, because the thing needed to propagate after all.)
mircea_popescu: ironically, this shit was signed with apple's whatever.
asciilifeform: crapware that doesn't even run.
mircea_popescu: from your own link : the only other mac thing wasn't even working.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: y'know, not ~all~ malware artists are tards. some folks have embedded key.
phf: but i wouldn't necessarily think twice when provisioning new system. i ended up provisioning this imac entirely from things i found on backup drive. that's it, i'm airgapping up in this bitch
asciilifeform: '... encrypts the RN with the RSA key retrieved from the C2 server ...' << !!
asciilifeform: 'As KeRanger encrypts each file (i.e. Test.docx) starts by creating an encrypted version that uses the .encrypted extension (i.e. Test.docx.encrypted.) To encrypt each file, KeRanger starts by generating a random number (RN) and encrypts the RN with the RSA key retrieved from the C2 server using the RSA algorithm. It then ....' << L0l!1111
asciilifeform: https://www.transmissionbt.com << l0l! appears to!
mircea_popescu: it exists for linux too, im sure.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: consider that the proggy ran on ~os~ with autoupdate.
mircea_popescu: i don't get this, you installed it recently ?
shinohai: You use transmission?
phf: mac version of torrent client i use was compromised couple of months ago, "oops we found a ransomware, we don't know how it got there"
shinohai: The only reason I used it was for trb private key issues, and the last time I tried to add a key it borked the entire wallet.dat.
shinohai: thx for title, I always forget that.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell ben_vulpes http://oopweb.com/Ada/Documents/AdaLinux/Volume/book.html
shinohai: ;;later tell BingoBoingo disregard msg above, this version has ref links: http://ix.io/vIc
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mircea_popescu: https://memegenerator.net/Y-U-So << wtf is this wonder ?
mircea_popescu: jurov doesn't seem to resolve to a cloudflare ip, but possible.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell adlai holy shit did you really end up in an asylum ?
asciilifeform: jurov: try usa proxy & see what i mean.
asciilifeform: jurov: realize, i see no such thing here
jurov: just checked, they still do it, there's like 40 alt names on one cert
jurov: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-09#1449442 << was that https? they likely use some middleman like cloudflare which issues one common certificate per random group of customers ☝︎
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asciilifeform already has a shitjob, dun need another that pays 10x less for anything
shinohai: "Police dropped all endangerment charges in exchange for him not filing a complaint about them expressing relief he won’t be able to reproduce." https://thevalleyreport.com/2016/03/14/man-shoots-off-his-own-penis-taking-selfies-with-gun/
BingoBoingo: Who knows alf mebbe you even get to make friends with some orcs?
BingoBoingo: * asciilifeform ON A MOTHERFUKING SATURDAY yet ANOTHER phone interview with folks who ~lied~ in advertisement re telecommute << Seriously try home depot ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Ok, someone with a better idea of how SSL works, pls qntra this
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo et al ^ qntra-able ?? << Mebbe? Lemme take a look
asciilifeform: (there are no timestamps, cache control crapolade, etc)
asciilifeform: and only there.
asciilifeform: i get diffs only when he updates the text.
mircea_popescu: anyway, root domain isn't a very good test. who knows, maybe there's some web-based "log in" state thing somewhere on cryptome or w/e.
mircea_popescu: can't argue with that.
asciilifeform: there still always remains the chance to not merely 'x is a scam' but to take the scammer, and nail his arms and legs to the floor
mircea_popescu: people who know the us is a scam know the us is a scam. people who "don't know" "don't know" for various good reasons that this bit isn't addressing.
mircea_popescu: nah, that's funny, this is tedium.
asciilifeform: not imho mega-nyooz but it beats the 'furry' nonsense
mircea_popescu: possibly of interest to the cryptome people only.
asciilifeform: would've been mega-entertaining if not for the null diff. but sure.
asciilifeform: or that the protocol isn't swiss cheese on all levels outside of the crypto ?
asciilifeform: props up the notion that the master keys aren't owned by hitler and therefore this idiocy must be done ?
mircea_popescu: yeah totally
asciilifeform: from inside the mental asylum, this... idk, helps stand up the delusion that anyone gives half a shit re ssl ?
mircea_popescu: "never happened - but if it did happen, then... what ? operator error ?
mircea_popescu: no i meant from the alt-reality usg perspective
asciilifeform: i thought this was obvious
asciilifeform: clinic and title company both ran winblowz and Generous Shareholder Donated their cert to ftmeade ?
mircea_popescu: so what the fuck is the relation between a cali hearing clinic, a mid sized title holding/services company such that they'd share certs ? and no, it's not JUST on the mp end of the cannon : http://archive.is/uHV8m ☟︎
mircea_popescu: in other lulz " www.0ldrepublictitle.com; or visit us on Facebook at ORNTIC or ORTC, or on Twitter @OldRepTitle. “The Old Republic Title Insurance Group, Inc. is comprised of ..."
mircea_popescu: i still get the same pem tho
asciilifeform pictures hitler minion, who turned off the jammer ~just in time~, cackling
mircea_popescu: vhell then!
asciilifeform: paste the raw text, i'ma 'meld' it
asciilifeform: 'caek for sale' rrrrring 'let's talk about the cake' 'ok' [next day] 'let's talk about the cake. we don't actually have cake. but we have some broken glass and cement. how would you like some??'
asciilifeform: srsly the derpery
asciilifeform ON A MOTHERFUKING SATURDAY yet ANOTHER phone interview with folks who ~lied~ in advertisement re telecommute ☟︎
mircea_popescu: between the stuff in dpaste and ?
asciilifeform: i'd like to know the diddlepayload.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so where do you want me to get the key from ?
mircea_popescu: i gotta confess this was the best cryptome link to date. usually it's kinda flat.
asciilifeform: dollars to doughnuts you get a diddled john young pgp pubkey
asciilifeform: except, again, it is only connected if you're on mircea_popescu's end of the ferretcannon.
asciilifeform: why do you THINK. l0l.
mircea_popescu: so why is some aural health clinic in roseville/oakland connected to this thing then.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, "The team of hearing care professionals at. Whisper Hearing Centers use the most advanced technology. My Humor. Talking some good old fashion gossip" etc.
asciilifeform: i see same thing in both.
mircea_popescu: rarely have i seen all the letter servers from a to m be in the authority section of an obscure, blogger.com-esque domain.
mircea_popescu: compare, for your amusement, dig 0ldrepublictitle.com with dig access.0ldrepublictitle.com (the latter is what the cert really serves)