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mircea_popescu: davout ya, so it'll lock it down at reboot. but the attacker installs a logger, then you reboot, put your pw in and then it reboots again.
davout: and if you have a passphrase on your wallet it'll lock it down at reboot
davout: if you remove they key a reboot is necessary to compromise your machine
davout: yep, they have a backdoor installed, it's supposed to be for their support, if for whatever reason they need root access to your machine
orkaa: a*
davout: mircea_popescu: because when an ovh server is installed the first thing to do, like in the first ten seconds you get the server is to remove their backdoor, namely a couple of ssh keys in /root/.ssh
mircea_popescu: yet in spite of being a bigger target thery've not been hit yet. something here is wrong.
mircea_popescu: mtgox doesn't seem like they have enough of a clue to get proper physical security of their servers in place
mircea_popescu: like a top new york firm lawyer is an asshole and some tribal witch doctor in nigeria are both assholes
mircea_popescu: then get a 500 people group to scream you're a scam
davout: mircea_popescu: pic of you wearing a party hat or it didn't happen
kakobrekla: aw, could have gotten a village of girls then
deadweasel: truffles, no, i don't use btc as a means to a wet cock
mircea_popescu: (with one of them. the other i knew for a while)
mircea_popescu: i was wearing bitcoin buttons and it sparked a conversation
mircea_popescu: a, no.
gribble: MtGox lag is 0.269184 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.000539441722066 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).
thestringpuller: no because I don't drive a car!
thestringpuller: I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance thanks to Bitcoin.
davout: as long as everyone hates xcode humanity still has a chance
KRS-1: might be able to segfault vi by using vi opening a symlink to vi
mircea_popescu: i thought it was fixed like a month ago
inhies: or is there a passtrhough or something?
assbot: Things which are alike, in nature, grow to look alike, and the speaking stones have lain a long time lookin' at the sun.
inhies: its ok i dont really want to deal with a loan anyways
inhies: yea now is a good time to buy
thestringpuller: tiberiusiv is a secret mpex user
thestringpuller: then sell and take a position to keep the price stable win-win :P
thestringpuller: Or buy N's and just hold for a long ass time
gribble: Error: "bc,stat" is not a valid command.
jborkl_: well maybe a new yacht
jborkl_: smoeone at GS had a new Ferrari to buy
asciilifeform: evidently a bunch of algo traders' idiot code does indeed care.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: "we've been hacked" = "somebody on the staff knew exactly when to short a bunch of stocks."
Namworld: [20:23] <mircea_popescu> i have a completely abstract altchain. nobody mines on it, nobody owns any coins, nobody bothers to read the codebase (which doesn't actually exist in written form anywhere)
mircea_popescu: nobody has yet found a catchy name.
asciilifeform: not that it is physically impossible to steal Bitcoin's Schelling Point status, but you would have to actually add something astonishingly interesting, vs. merely swapping out the genesis block and finding a catchy name.
mircea_popescu: i have a completely abstract altchain. nobody mines on it, nobody owns any coins, nobody bothers to read the codebase (which doesn't actually exist in written form anywhere)
asciilifeform: altcoins are a mechanism for siphoning value from chumps, strictly of the volunteer variety. Sort of like SDICE.
asciilifeform: truffles: you can use all the altcoin you want, and nobody will hate you. just as nobody hates that guy who sawed off his arms with a chainsaw in a hardware store.
asciilifeform: Scrat: wait till he puts up an exchange and 'feathercoin' starts having a positive cash value... 'a sucker's born every minute, and two to take him,' etc.
mircea_popescu: is it for a different neural architecture ?
mircea_popescu: " Litecoin being as mature as it is makes it hard to join in the fun so let’s start with a new coin that follows Litecoin’s tradition."
Scrat: dude does a verbatim copy of litecoin and it gets 50 pages of replies in a week?
mircea_popescu: i wonder if it actually is the same dood with a split personality.
mircea_popescu: so there's not one but actually two different doods doing a bitcoin pixel page + bitcoin gem thing
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: is there a cabal that are manipulating bitcoin prices?
mircea_popescu: the 2nd is a 100px wide rendition of the "swiss dinar"/usd rate
mircea_popescu: well... ok, formally : it contains no tables and a total of 3 figures in 28 pages. the third is a 100px wide rendition of the "bitcoin supply schedule" in 6 data points.
mircea_popescu: is that we've managed to switch from a drama powered to a drama-and-comedy-gold powered model.
ThickAsThieves: oh geez wtf is a feathercoin
mod6: here's the beat down in a chart: https://www.google.com/finance?q=INDEXDJX%3A.DJI%2CINDEXSP%3A.INX%2CINDEXNASDAQ%3A.IXIC&ei=DcR2UcjbLYWOqgHYUg&hl=en
Aurigae1: satoshi has a marcet cap of 7'K as i calculated, gotta check the books tough
Aurigae1: hey guys, what are the most interesting ventures in bitcoin world, i have browsed a bit on bitcoin stocks but most seem blatantly overvalued on marketcap.
jurov: only that the cat preferred to lay on my notebook's psu instead of near me. such a bitch
jurov: then i found by chance a nice hostel in timisoara, a family house complete with dogs and cat
jurov: and went off next stop, she knew romanian so not a big problem
Populus: Is there a way to search for a wallet ID to know what bets the wallet is involved with?
TomServo: Isn't ripple sort of a distributed exchange?
ThickAsThieves: bitcoin is old news now http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/23/4252808/can-zerocoin-and-ripple-build-a-better-bitcoin
gribble: MtGox lag is 1.219795 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00244445552249 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
TomServo: no, it's a battle bot
Scrat: tiberiusiv is a made up character
ThickAsThieves: does the Note 2 count as a tablet? I kinda want one now that my wife has one
Scrat: how the fuck is is a waste, they are paying off the loan
Scrat: not a single computer manufacturer has a successful tablet that consumers want in their hands
MJR_: then he said, a lot more coming in than going out
pizzaman1337: he has such a think accent
ChaangNoi: that is a large number 25 just to 119 that is bullish
Scrat: if you shuffle a letter around it translates to vagina
pgp2: right, if pool is closed 3-7 days before determing factor, there is less of a need to decay to 1
mircea_popescu: well depends on the bet. bitbet has a 7 to 3 day interval settable iirc
mircea_popescu: don't get me wroing, the question ios a very good one
zebedee_: Those that weight until the last moment to bet HUGE on a near-certain outcome? We can ignore them.
zebedee_: It just weights earlier bets more than linearly. Just a guess.
mircea_popescu: however we couldn't find a way that was both intuitive for non-math people to specify and practicable in a web interface.
pgp2: in getting more people to bet - I think that the complexity is a barrier to new users...
pgp2: w/e just a suggestion
pgp2: like maybe display average pool weight - stuff so they can compute something round in their head and not have to resort to a calculator
pgp2: I know that it's settable, just suggesting a firm minimum so that EV can never get to far out of whack.
pgp2: yes, but could be a bit more transparent - i found it confusing at first.
pgp2: just saying that maybe a decay minimum of 20,000 would be appropriate...
mircea_popescu: the fact that either side is still +EV seems pretty good to me. means if you have a conviction you can still take a side.
pgp2: I was surprised, though, at just how BAD the odds can get. Perhaps you should consider a minimum decay value
mircea_popescu: basically you can make a little % by financing the odds. so you can pretty much run a line bookie thing on top of bitbet.
mircea_popescu: anyway. there's incentive for you to do this type of bet (ie, a marketmaking bet) early in the bet's life.
pgp2: so I worked out a close appoximation for EV
mircea_popescu: a nm it's by the weight pools
pgp2: hey mp, why do you prefer to decay the weight (or allow originator to set the decay) for bitbet? I've been doing some analysis and it really creates a heavy skews favoring early betting.
mircea_popescu: even if it's a situation of loaded book, they're settled by fixing
mircea_popescu: who the fuck even heard of exchange settling a 80 bid and 90 ask at 85 ?!
mircea_popescu: what offends me is this "i am a teenage cock with no experience whatsoever
taub: it's a stupid suggestion of course
mircea_popescu: http://www.247btc.com/bitcoins/134/how-i-would-manipulate-the-bitcoin-exchange-market-and-how-a-discrete-double-auction-could-stop-me/#comment-142
mircea_popescu: there's a deluge of idiots
kakobrekla: Starting a trade site? > I have two domains available to me, so it only makes sense to use one for trading.
Doffx: ls -a
thestringpuller: it aint a thing if it aint got that swing
Luke-Jr: kakobrekla: bitcoind and p2pool can feed you a forked template too
Luke-Jr: BFL is apparently doing a "demo" jalapeno