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trinque: I took a few passes at them to help with the business too, and this twat (yes you, alf) dares try to w/e, get me to take up the broken business or imitate it in same vein only after he's shat his pants.
trinque: I've just watched these other guys shred their savings making a notbusiness and then apparently going to do the same thing in another spot, because the last one was cursed with the "locals are subhuman" or w/e, and having not to do with themselves
trinque: yeah, it's doable. it's also a http://btcbase.org/log/2019-10-10#1944404 ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: trinque, iirc there was a scheme discussed year or two ago re small sums and a definition thereof ?
trinque: mp_en_viaje: around briefly, but away from fortress for a few days
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i took a naive stab at calculating the 'floor' for this locale. the util co charges presently 7.83 cents per kW/hr. the halftower is supplied with a 1.2kW baseline . 24*30*0.0783*1.2 ~= 70 $ of mains current ; warehouse sq. metrage goes for ~30 / m^2 here, this yields 100; and the remaining unaccounted for portion of price is then 295 , which presumably includes net pipe , upkeep of the grounds (maintenance, cooling, sla
asciilifeform: 'coloco' co. made the (so far , i've nuffin to dispute it with) claim that it's a regional nexus w/ 4 separate fiber hoses in 4 compass directions to 4 peers, 2 power grids, etc.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: presently i suspect there is a glut of supply in this geography.
mp_en_viaje: it's all a numbers game ; and numbers don't lie.
mp_en_viaje: running a business is all about doing math. "am i willin gto pay 1.5% more for a box to reduce losses by one in five million ?"
mp_en_viaje: what's a failed read do, dirty a cache page ? hurr, workers abound.
BingoBoingo: Second is big SSDs in a RAID 10
mp_en_viaje: incidentally, how about you offer l2s, new or otherwise, a year of free hosting ? i'ma throw in a free domain registration with it on my own account, and there you go, novice welcoming package.
BingoBoingo: http://bingology.net/2019/10/16/reasonable-lamp-setup-for-mp-wp-on-centos-6-and-anyserver-terms-of-use/ Leaves out the directory structure figuring someone may want to use the instructions for their own use rather than necessarily bringing up a shared machine.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'll bake a blog post architecting what an ideal shared host machine involves based on the lessons of UY1 and anyserver.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ty, seems that we'll want a 'dulap-type' for this. i'ma 1st handle the outstanding reqs tho.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'll work on a shared server how-to with hardware resources necessary. I can tell you now such a machine is going to want all the RAM it can get. On 'anyserver' MySQL's RAM consumption has been stable and depended so far on how many blogs it has been fed. Apache however benefits tremendously from spinning up new workers and there isn't another httpd worth messing with for the purpose.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: and, and, what you want in exchange for your participation. given as this op is not a continuation of piz proper.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 13:03:05 mp_en_viaje: perhaps should lay into asciilifeform to offer a shared of their own and we move all the stuff off BingoBoingo 's continuity bridge in there within a month or two ?
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: that makes sense as a direct replication of previous setup; I don't really see anything wrong with it either; alternatively I suppose I can always set it up even on a vps with maxim or whatevers, it's literally "don't care where", all of it is public and fixed and should just be accessible for people to download stuff.
mp_en_viaje: perhaps should lay into asciilifeform to offer a shared of their own and we move all the stuff off BingoBoingo 's continuity bridge in there within a month or two ?
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-18#1946300 - meanwhile after reading a translation of some chinese dude's similar attempts to "communicate", I start suspecting that everyone's chinese!! but after this experience, I'll add to #o curriculum documented interactions with unknown people to be done until result is judged acceptable.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: 100 is a rounded-off output of complicated arithmetic similar to ^ including cost of cage, % of max amperage eaten by $box at peak load, cost of ip, amortization of iron. i'ma post for criticism after tea.
mp_en_viaje: a car will take 4 wheels 10 bucks each + 1 chasis 80 bux + 9 windows 2.20 + 1 engine 115 and our margin 20% comes to (4*10+1*80+9 *2.20+1*115)*1.2 = 305.76
mp_en_viaje: a corp with significant dubaloo-denominated capital goods and bitcoin earnin gpower is like the golden boy of bitcoin finance.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i think i'd rather lease, do you have a preference ?
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: let me go back through the whole log because honestly, I'm having a problem with asciilifeform's frenzy-spitting in the logs
mp_en_viaje: i see. ok, so what'd the charge be for the building of two clones of the smg machines + 1 clone of the pizarro shared server and for a year's hosting ?
mp_en_viaje: aite, so then, what's your plan, get a rack and start racking ?
mp_en_viaje: i mean financed. eg when i logged into dns thing a few days back at BingoBoingo 's request discovered i have like 1k usd rotting in there. and that place takes bitcoin, too.
mp_en_viaje: might be a good idea to open yourself a tab with them, too.
mp_en_viaje: and if in three weeks this "is solved" in the sense of no longer getting a lot of loglines, and you happen to see a teledildonic telescope on sale, and you buy that, i
mp_en_viaje: but in a coupla years if the dc implodes and you decide you still can't move, i'll ???
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: there's 2 separate qs.: a) whether it is possible to run a comfortably +ev miniature isp for use of l1/l2. b) is how to run large isp, hosting 1000 heathens, to make 100k's. presently it would be a lie if asciilifeform said that knows how to (b) , and suicidal if tried to (a) + (b) simultaneously right off .
mp_en_viaje: whereas the narrative of amateurship, also well standardized by now, is rather novel ; completed by about 1880s or so. "this is a thing i do ; but i am not this thing i do".
mp_en_viaje: 3. you being a fortunately specified thing, will have also clear needs. "i want 50k/year"
mp_en_viaje: 2. X being a commercial enterprise, will have a very clearly specified margin. "we charge 20%".
mp_en_viaje: it's not merely an actual q, it's a universal, fixed-for-all-time and long long ago standard q.
BingoBoingo: If this thing grows and you fill cages upon cages, it survives. It it doesn't grow, when shit happens instead of being an ISP you end up with your upstream deciding you are a "problem customer"
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: is this actual q, or simply constructed to give asciilifeform a banana to slip on ?
mp_en_viaje: well, so therein lies the problem : your margin must >= your living expenses, else the "dedicate life" is a sorta joke. a coupla boxes from me won't ever support such a margin, so what's missing is what you intend to do about this.
mp_en_viaje: <mp_en_viaje> if you're just looking for a coupla week's amateur entertainment, i got a whole line of hookers looking for same pounding down my door.
mp_en_viaje: <mp_en_viaje> no, i'm not interested in sending you a harddrive so maybe you'll do something whatever in your garage.
asciilifeform: there is a stockpile of emergency spare FG here. will install on request of mp_en_viaje , there is enuff for 3 boxen w/ paired sets.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: quickest way to put a smg box in asciilifeform's rack is to put to use the new 'dulaps' (due in at end of next wk). however you may find it +ev to get the piz boxen sent to england, this depends on exact outputs of BingoBoingo .
asciilifeform: diana_coman: there's apparently customs nonsense threatening to get in the way. however ~absolute~ ceiling for removal cost is 500 per 1u (u.s. $) , asciilifeform can physically extract 100kg of iron for a ~2000 cost. ( this however would require 4 u worth of iron evacuation request, to be practical. ) BingoBoingo will say moar when wakes up.
asciilifeform: ( which is why i suspect there will be at least 1 new (if smaller) auction . or >1, if, pessimistically, BingoBoingo runs for a spell on personal battery while searching for work )
mp_en_viaje: pond also has a new frog
ossabot: Logged on 2019-01-15 13:04:09 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in a quite hilarious conclusion to the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-15#1887012 saga : http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1390&cpage=1#comment-19775 << yarvin throws in the towel.
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-18#1946274 << seems that they have a new schmuck. ( old one -- retired )
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-18#1946268 << BingoBoingo is working on a detailed quote ( transportation cost is the unknown; and appears that meat-powered transport may actually be cheapest. )
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: well, there was the naive assumption on my part that "how hard can it be"; fwiw though I rather doubt it really makes a difference simply because there is no real interaction from the other side either.
mp_en_viaje: hey trinque, you about for entitrely unrelated issues from a few hours ago ?
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: should I set her up with a ftp account on logs.ossasepia.com?
mp_en_viaje foresees a whole fucking ocean of these before we're done, much like the few good rockbands of the 70s had an entire fucking ocean of morons with guitars trying their best to choke them out
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-17 22:13:06 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in heathendom lint traps, new lolz from a very old lolcow .
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-17 19:38:00 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i actually have a pogo in stock, if you like just-for-you it can be plugged in.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-17#1946199 << the spirit of service-eagerness is fine, but you're going overboard with the options. no, he doesn't want a pogo, simmer down.
mp_en_viaje: a cool! let's put this in then
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-17#1946136 << yup, and once he chases a different skirt in a week or two again, "problems" again and so on.
mp_en_viaje: stop tryna fix imaginary problems as a transparent cover-up for not fixing existing problems. it's transparent and it'll stay transparent, disavowing it'll NEVER work
mp_en_viaje: the problem of pizarro was, 100%, your joint an' several failure to build it a customer base.
mp_en_viaje: http://jswin.github.io/javascript-window/jquery-thickbox-fullscreen-iframe.html http://jquerythickbox.com/thickbox-not-working-with-firefox.html check out these fucking idiots, 1990s era url keyword stuffing, works a-ok in 2019 google (just as long as what it's pushing is its shitty jquery infection vector)
mp_en_viaje: if you don't change for change's sake then you're happy with everything as it is, if hilary didn't give you your rights then pangloss gave you the best possible world, god fucking love 'em with a sharpened stick already.
mp_en_viaje: they're big networks in the sense bizantium was a big city cca 1000ad
mp_en_viaje: aite. i shall read ; atm buried under a pile but yes
diana_coman: fwiw on irc-project, thimbronion contacted at least oftc, undernet, dalnet and espernet but because 1. he has to improve there 2. they are all into this wank of "us big networkz, no need serverz" , I'll have him get some proper data and write it up to have it in clear: set up some bouncers and log for a while all chans,
BingoBoingo to meat a bit
asciilifeform: wait why's it a tar.gz ? oughta be straight gz of the stick image
asciilifeform: a.
asciilifeform: hopefully it aint a multi-day download, lol
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in heathendom lint traps, new lolz from a very old lolcow .
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 256 ( i dun recall there ever being a 128 ? )
asciilifeform: maybe even a hero will stand up who opens a 3rd, even-cheaper rack. (i'll be surprised tho)
asciilifeform: there is to be (just nao uncrated it) a 36in shelf for 'nonrackable rackables'.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i actually have a pogo in stock, if you like just-for-you it can be plugged in.
asciilifeform: as far as i'm concerned , a box is a box, you can set it up how you like.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I don't know about moving blogs right away, but I am interested in a something to spread out the DNS record serving
asciilifeform: qntra is a mp-powered system, btw, so he may want to weigh in 1st re where plugged in.
asciilifeform: ( iirc trinque uses a few internally in castle trinquestein )
asciilifeform is setting up a thing where invid. inhabitants could even reserve % of pipe for exclusive use. can discuss cost if anyone seriously interested in such variant.
asciilifeform: a++ BingoBoingo
diana_coman: asciilifeform: lolz, not yet; I still need to schedule a meeting with at least a few dc-s within reachable distance; then I'll see; fwiw though atm I don't have any rack-irons anyway
diana_coman: then again, I wouldn't quite want to *live* in a dc either and computers seem to multiply in my house as it is so probably not much choice there in the end anyway.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: filling a rack, asciilifeform-style, is entirely doable w/out megabux , it costs roughly like those old mercs mp buys. ( at least until one tried to buy ip... )
diana_coman: asciilifeform: mind publishing a torture test with pics and all that too?
diana_coman: asciilifeform: how much do you pay for a dulap-box anyway?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'm a miser. but, cage is there, gotta fill. i expect there will be inhabitants.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-17 13:21:47 asciilifeform: diana_coman: and perhaps if you end up with a full booth and lotsa irons, can even hire BingoBoingo .
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-17#1946115 - hopefully he has already a job by the time I get to move anything; I still work full time for s.mg and I fully intend to get eulora off the ground.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It's gzipping at the moment. Prolly a few more hours until done baking.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: and perhaps if you end up with a full booth and lotsa irons, can even hire BingoBoingo .
asciilifeform: diana_coman: it aint 'phd-grade' work, but will take a little learning.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: have you ever had occasion to run a rack before ?
diana_coman: asciilifeform: thank you, that might be useful indeed; it does seem to me that I might not really have many choices other than picking at least a dc within short distance and getting space there + searching them thoroughly for some human; but atm I'm under such a pile of work on all directions that it's not going to happen tomorrow or next week yet.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-17 01:43:57 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-16#1945955 << this incidentally is a great service!
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-17#1946050 << there will be a set of 'din rails' for expandable-on-demand, properly ventilated rk plant. already purchased .
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-17 01:44:12 mp_en_viaje: b) it is unlikely any lawyer you don't previously know will treat this as anything but a meal ticket. much like usg doctors don't treat the underlying condition in the sense of getting rid of it, but treat it as a cash cow, in the sense of maximizing their own income from it, the whole fucking point of knowing lawyers ~prior~ to needing them rather than once you need them like the retail-buying schmuck is so as to
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-17 01:05:53 mp_en_viaje: it's a thing, and as long as it's a thing you own some ; dun even matter what you think about it, you can deem it as evil as you wish ; as long as it's a thing you get yourself some.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-17 01:44:58 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-16#1946013 << php is perfectly fine. there should be a counter somewhere keeping a "max disk size" setting, an inventory of total bytesize, and that deletes oldest-first when the former exceeds the latter.