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mircea_popescu: it specifically says you're not supposed to play as a 0.00x
mircea_popescu: 72 * 0.0001 = 0.0072, and allow me to remind you what the mathematical notion of optimal play is
mircea_popescu: should you decide to make it go 72 units to the left, which you can do, what guarantee you can offer re "shortest distance from origin" ?
mircea_popescu: suppose you have 3.141592 squnits of brain. you get the option of making it into a circle [mens sana in corpore sano!!1] and you are guaranteed to be no dumber than 1.
mircea_popescu: it's almost as if the meta-brain was made of plasticine, and with a fixed origin. yes you can make it go as far in one direction as you want, but this thins it out in all others, meaning there's an exponential relation between "furthest out" and "furthest in" points
mircea_popescu: no, no, protect smart people from scaling up the dumb.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this, incidentally, is the one cure / amulet of protection / curse removal / whatever actually worth finding.
mircea_popescu: phf did you read the story ? he did become a mage. ☟︎
phf: mircea_popescu: i don't think so, since moses was a man on a mission from god, it would be a distraction for him (from the mission) to choose to become a magi, hence the story
mircea_popescu: you lot can not be trusted. the smarter you get, the less you can be trusted not to be dumb.
mircea_popescu: it has to, you understand ?
asciilifeform: pretty much the whole of usgology boils down to 'keep folks with brains from accessing the boojum'
mircea_popescu: [hence why jews have the best old stories - they had the courage to do what good writers always do, go in the middle and subvert the trope]
asciilifeform: when somebody with half a brain gets the bottle, all bets off.
mircea_popescu: phf this breaks down once moses gets box of covenant ?
mircea_popescu: is then the wall one fucks a woman by that gift ?
mircea_popescu: is it a wall, that the impotent can not fuck, for the not fucking ?
phf: also stories about dimwits getting genie bottles always have some moral to them that's applicable to "real life". there's really no moral to solomon getting genie bottle, since solomon is that with or without one
mircea_popescu: if roxy goes into the bath in front of the trusty eunuch, is she a pile of bricks ?
mircea_popescu: they are both selected for dullness, arguably of distinct kinds, but ultimately very much the same : they're the sort women want to raise their babies [if not to make their babies].
asciilifeform: any time you see 'below random shot' result, sit and think !
asciilifeform: consider the folks who often rise up in times of civil war etc
asciilifeform: i.e. the folks who play lotto, are selected in practice for dullness
asciilifeform: btw thinking again about it, lotto is quite like usgotto in that the skill distrib. in either case is NOT random
mircea_popescu: ends up in a "did you forget to buy bread" situation.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, that it dilutes the cool ?
asciilifeform: is there any practical reason not to have spare bot ?
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell trinque the problem with deedbot being offline is that i am forced into the dilemma of either turn ben_vulpes req for voice down, or else voice people outside of the model. i don't like either horn, at all.
asciilifeform: incidentally how come we have no turks.
asciilifeform: i think pete_dushenski knew
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they will, in article i'm writing.
asciilifeform: not this one!11
asciilifeform: just pointing out that 'roxy' is a pile of bricks
mircea_popescu: it's a case of "the cure seeker never really needed a cure - magic was always in him ; the non-seeker... well..."
asciilifeform: i did not say there were.
mircea_popescu: not anymore than "can i trust this eunuch with my dear roxy" is political.
asciilifeform: my point being that the actual amount of 'polit reliability' asked of the esr folk is minimal.
asciilifeform: but it isn't as if they were paid on actual hard money that could buy the necessary truck of kalash ammo
asciilifeform: and not only are they selected as the 'least likely to take the money and run to namibia',
mircea_popescu: or as the women call it, "civilisation".
mircea_popescu: knowing as we do in fact know that children normally develop into whole men almost half of the time, their presence is proof of artifice,
phf: none of these people are hired to do something out of their nature, they show up how they are, hence lobotomized
mircea_popescu: there's a deep reason that works, and that deep reason is that these aren't whole men.
asciilifeform: i see more quisling than lobotomy victim re esr et al
asciilifeform: how really different are the two ?
mircea_popescu: in the second kind, highly intelligent BUT SPECIFICALLY LOBOTOMIZED male is gently nudged back into the pen.\
mircea_popescu: in the first kind, random derp ends up with some chumpatronium. being random he is randomly distributed re skill, and normally the juice leaves him. similarly if i took a marketable blonde and told her to go live with random guy on the street, which she will because they do what i say, he'll STILL manage to lose her over time.
mircea_popescu: there's lotto and then there's usgotto.
asciilifeform: the progression from lottery winner to pauper is sop tho
a111: Logged on 2015-09-07 12:55 punkman: then http://news.slashdot.org/story/99/12/10/0821224/esr-writes-on-surprised-by-wealth >> and now http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6835
phf: esr is the guy who's into guns
mircea_popescu: i god danged mixed them up!
mircea_popescu: oh ers was just begging generically, at the same time orlov needed new engine
mircea_popescu: didn't he have a webbegging page up for a new engine back when the lulz at him started ?
mircea_popescu: [i suppose we're all too distant from our sailing ancestors to know what age at sea does to man]
mircea_popescu: it's almost like a tabletop rpg, this shit.
mircea_popescu: phf different types of fanatics.
phf: in the end wreckers ended up being much more effective against rms than esr's oss
mircea_popescu: gnu mostly rode on the coattails of the pgp panic of 1990
asciilifeform: he hangs out around this town.
asciilifeform: but i suppose gnu was seen as possible threat, as pgp once was.
asciilifeform: his 'open source movement' thing was specifically a counter to rms
asciilifeform: the notion being that anything can be buried beneath an infinitely tall pile of 'cheaper, user-friendly', mit-endorsed imitations
mircea_popescu: as is usually the case, i guess.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but for the record, the brief, illusory "wealth" rained on idiots like ers et all had much more to do with zimmerman's work than with, say, murdock's.
phf: mircea_popescu: nah, worst case it doesn't return to a default (typically much more permissive) umask after handling the keys
a111: Logged on 2016-04-21 16:11 asciilifeform: where pgp seemed to 'threaten to go mainstream' and usg had not yet decided what to 'do about it'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-21#1454550 << it's always the same playbook, incidentally. and we're climbing up the same curve with bitcoin, also. ☝︎
asciilifeform: perhaps the resident zoologists (ben_vulpes ?) could comment.
asciilifeform: i have never seen it in the field. but it appears to be a webtard thing
mircea_popescu: moral being "don't use salt", nfi that anyone does/would.
asciilifeform: 'One note to consider: certification, e.g. OpenSSL on RHEL is certified to FIPS 140-2, so if you used TLS with OpenSSL as the backend the FedGOV/large firms/etc could use salt.' << gold.
asciilifeform: gotta love the 'use openssl like everybody else, peon!' folk.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i am mostly reading the names so they're in the search.
asciilifeform: or where they are now.
asciilifeform: and no i have no idea who the zoo animals were.
mircea_popescu: i can see that.
asciilifeform: put this in pipe, smoke it...
asciilifeform: thread was about none less than RSA WITH EXPONENT OF 1
mircea_popescu: "good this was changed, world wasn't doomed before". who the fuck is madduck
mircea_popescu: who the fuck is thatch45 ?
mircea_popescu: o noes, the maid and the gardner!!11
mircea_popescu: looky, even here, the faux is obvious : "solamente correos cifrados porfa thunderbird/enigmail" ? gimme a fucking break.
asciilifeform: the folks who give a shit - know who they are.
asciilifeform: it was a niche thing. firm that specialized in writing virii for idiot orc govs.
asciilifeform: and so got thoroughly raped.
asciilifeform: anyway tldr is that 'hackteam' used a boatload of commercial crapolade on their lan.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'm sorry, i can't go through the introduction
asciilifeform: word on the street is that it was published in sp as a deliberate insult.
asciilifeform: well the phacts check out.
mircea_popescu: and fucking luchemos omfg. everything is wrong with these people. EVERYTHING
mircea_popescu: here's a thought, nobody that needs to discuss computing in his dumb mother's tongue has what it takes to "luchar".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: tldr - linked item purports (pgp-signed..) to be account of the hackteam vivisection.
asciilifeform: in case anyone did not know this
asciilifeform: interestingly, if e is not coprime with n, the key cannot be used.
asciilifeform: and these are just moduli that tripped the heuristic checkz
mircea_popescu: i'm guessing users can't just re-enter their orders or something ? anyways.
asciilifeform: phf: that would be quite spiffy
phf: oh i should add date ranges to search..
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu explained this some time in 2013 but i haven't the link here.