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midnightmagic: dub: All I see is "[18:01:08] <midnightmagic> dub: What a horrible way to live, in constant fear." I guess all I can say is that's not a statement born of ignorance.
mircea_popescu: i guess i used the wrong word
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: Hey man, in that log on that day you're talking about that boobpic I've been trying to grep for forever.
midnightmagic: dub: *AWESOME* you just found for me the reference to the mpoe-pr boob pic that I've been searching for forever.
dub: midnightmagic: egrep -i '(dub.*eastern.*europe)' \#bitcoin-assets.log
midnightmagic: dub: I'm trying to dig up the log because I'm curious what I was thinking at the time. I've actually grown up in a place (yes, they exist even in Canada) where one must assume the stranger is evil.
Chaang-Noi: i want to know how much asic miner shares are worth
thestringpuller: based on a 500,000 NRE cost on the chips I assume there will be at least 600 total on the first "batch" of chips
mircea_popescu: why wait five years, i always say.
BitHub: i hope that's me in 5 years haha
mircea_popescu: BitHub im hung so i hang.
BitHub: i thought you were talkig about your daughters or something, till i click on the pics lul wtf
dub: anyway, if I don't want this PM to actually climb up my ass I need to deliver some shit so I'm closing this term
Eduard_Munteanu: I see.
mircea_popescu: i've not made a comment on the topic so far.
mircea_popescu: sometimes i suspect there's like five balls in three ballsacks available in the entire continental us.
dub: midnightmagic: my memory of it is different, I don't think we were discussing a specific place, only the existence of such places
Eduard_Munteanu: I guess mircea_popescu pledges to be the benevolent dictator of MPEx forever, after reading a bit through the contract.
midnightmagic: dub: I was floored by the fact that it was so *in that specific locale*.
Eduard_Munteanu: I wonder if bitcoiners are going to experiment with different governance rules / contracts than you usually see in the real world. Which is usually majority of shares.
midnightmagic: Unlike most people, I am not interested (this time) in simply honing my ability to refute. If and when you come up with actual cites, I'd be happy to look them up. I still have fulltext research credentials at the local university.
midnightmagic: I'm sorry you think that. You should realise that the implication is that I am aserting my mind can be changed.
dub: i'd like to continue this and know it looks like weasling out
dub: the problem is you can likely produce data to refute any opinion as can I
dub: I guess at some point, some people like to actually form an opinion
dub: midnightmagic: and I'f I were a victim of that would I need to have read about this before or after observing it?
midnightmagic: dub: I'll presume you are aware of the notion of confirmation bias.
dub: midnightmagic: thats easy, it closely mirrors what I have observed
midnightmagic: dub: I'm fairly sure your evaluation of my cultural "naivete" is based on incomplete data.
midnightmagic: dub: Making negative assertions about the person you are having a discussion with is not usually productive. I'm readjusting my evaluation of your random, seemingly-connected comments post-statement.
dub: yes, well I'm more of an experience guy than a take debunkment at face value guy. Dorkins calls it the belief gene, though I don't really believe it exists.
midnightmagic: dub: Much of the literature usually cited to conclude such things has been thoroughly debunked, so perhaps someday when you're willing to cite, after making such assertions, I'd be glad to read and evaluate such studies.
kakobrekla: During the BDT experience, because i was very concerned about the high interest bond and the lack of supporting high revenues i've made the decision (unethical, possibly illegal) to repurpose some of the funds raised with the IPO.
dub: midnightmagic: I don't really have time to go through this, there is quite a bit of literature out there
midnightmagic: dub: Is it now. I'm.. glad you're paying such close attention to my activity that you think you have me pegged.
midnightmagic: dub: I haven't called you a racist yet.
midnightmagic: dub: I'm at a loss here to meaningfully discuss this with you. I don't know where to start. If you're serious, I'm fairly sure we are so alien that there is basically no common ground on which to meaningfully converse for this topic.
dub: we'll I don't but based on past discussions I think its rather unlikely
midnightmagic: And how do you know I'm not Chinese origin?
dub: I hear there are a couple up your way
midnightmagic: ... I can't actually tell if you're serious.
midnightmagic: dub: I am not. ngzhang is extremely ethical, or else Icarus wouldn't exist.
dub: midnightmagic: I'll assume you're being facetious?
mircea_popescu: i dun think chineseness has much to do with anything
midnightmagic: dub: And yet ngzhang is one of the most ethical businesspeople I've seen in a long time.
mircea_popescu: i'll certinly say something
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: I would be very interested to hear from you if you discover that they aren't just clueless, but seemingly deliberately clueless.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic well, i don't know the whole thing, but from this angle it looks more like they're clueless/haven't been thinking things through/haven't slept in weeks
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: You are beginning to see some of the strange contradictory nature of the asicminer people, I think, that I've been complaining about for months.
dub: I heard that on the radio a few days ago, first thought 'wonder if mp shows up on irc today'
dub: mircea_popescu: I thought it was teh lion/bear licesning regime
BitHub: i'm trying
BitHub: i live in a fuck hole
mircea_popescu: that's why i live here, it's close to shit.
mircea_popescu: i could be in budapest literally by sunup
Bowjob: I don't know the price yet
BitHub: i would sell my car today and go get one tomorrow
Bowjob: if its legit, I'll fly over there to pick a couple of them
BitHub: wish i live near hungary
dub: I recall at least 4 bottles that where brought from home
dub: theres only $633 worth of whiskey listed here, I don't think thats accurate
BitHub: what i want to bet on this being a huge fail
BitHub: where can i place a bet that coinlab will be out of business by end of year?
dub: I should delve into this road trip expenses sheet
dub: it took quite a few moments to decipher that I was not actually reading an official bfl blog
mircea_popescu: still, i had no idea ltc tanked that bad in btc
mircea_popescu: maybe i'm not understanding something.
mircea_popescu: i'm saying they're either through sheer incompetence, sheer lack of resources or by actually being frauds behave just like a fraud would.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla unless the sqrt log guy has a better solution, i think you're spot on.
Eduard_Munteanu: mircea_popescu: I see the problem. Still, wouldn't an exchange / market-maker be able to eliminate all those delays for things traded within the exchange? Not sure how one'd deal with double spending if you don't wait for confirmations.
mircea_popescu: i've never seen that sort of dynamic before.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/why-i-nixed-p2p-colored-coins-and-all-that-jazz/
Eduard_Munteanu: Unlike BTCs, shares are by definition centralized I suppose.
Eduard_Munteanu: If this has been discussed on the forums, I'd be glad to read those threads.
mircea_popescu: but i guess people gotta try it out.
Eduard_Munteanu: Ideally shares could work like BTC, I wonder if that's possible.
Eduard_Munteanu: But then I suppose you can't trade shares outside the exchange.
Eduard_Munteanu: BTW, how do you manage shares traded on your exchange? I hear asicminer people had to do some manual bookkeeping. Do you keep an exchange-local tab?
mircea_popescu: i strongly suspect the reason satoshi made himself scarce was that he was getting sick of dealing with the current team of devs.
jurov: lol, i have to make closed source wallet defrag tool.. and sell it for 1BTC. or at least accept donations
jurov: i guess you'll end up having to defragment the bitbet wallet occassionally
jurov: i wonder why i haven't seen the idea of applying hashcash to *every* transaction
mircea_popescu: i thought litecoin was like all cpu
kakobrekla: i mean automagic or smth
topace_: well at least there was nothing wrong with the code, i just had the multiple set wrong.
topace_: think i might add bbet this week
kakobrekla: i was just wondering
mircea_popescu: seems i didn't miss much huh
kakobrekla: aha ok i see something
topace_: i think there needs to be a way for people to freely move shares between mpex and the passthru's and maybe even between the passthrus themselves
topace_: yea, i could
kakobrekla: i mean
kakobrekla: i mean the question here is y u open this at all
topace_: 3) i manually approve transfer (for now)
kakobrekla: i dont even have havelock acc thb
jurov: OT: if anyone uses postgres, i recommend: http://postgres-bits.herokuapp.com . several things blew me away, like, it can store dictionaries
Ukto: I will get that changed
dub: wish I had usagi in a hat with a bat and a '84 skoda
dub: I wish I was a little bit shorter, wish I wasnt a baller, wish I had a girl who looked bad, I wouldnt call her?
thestringpuller: I wish I could short.