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coingenuity: Ukto: from what i've seen btcjam is uh...dubious at best
Ukto: anyone taken a loan on btcjam? i have some question on it
smickles: I've heard people say that it's not true that bitcoin isn't backed by anything; it's backed by drama.
mjr_: I scurry back to bitcoin-assets
smickles: mjr_: well, i didn't wan't to go with one of those 'free' providers, and my self-signed just wasn't cutting it anymore
smickles: heh, i had a lot of fun earlier getting and installing a 'proper' ssl cert
mjr_: the finance guys I work with are like send it to India
smickles: ya know, it really says something about their business if *i* can code a functional replacement for them before they even respond to me
smickles: i would've used bitpay, but they still haven't responded to my application and the certainly didn't respond b/f i had 90% finished my own system
mjr_: so, I was thinking an assurance contract could be a good way to start a unified clearing process for exchanges
mjr_: yeah...just not sure if I want people to associate me with a hot blonde lesbian
Josh_Rossi: but I like her...
mircea_popescu: you know i can't see your name without thinking of portia de rossi
Josh_Rossi: mircea_popescu: I don't see anything either
mircea_popescu: it's a bizzare question, what, they shoot canadians in wisconsin ? or how should i know anyway
midnightmagic: Why would I be living in Wisconsin then?
midnightmagic: I thought I told you I'm Canadian.
mircea_popescu: i got it all because i asked, half hour ago or whatever.
mircea_popescu: for that matter i know you live in de soto, wisconsin, and that you collect, and what, and when you dated, and a whole other pile of stuff.
mircea_popescu: do you mind if i call you joe ?
midnightmagic: Anecdote proves everything, I always say. Right mircea?
RandolphDuke: what i find most amusing about the US, is if you actually research what the so called tyrants extracted from the population it was roughly 5-10% of annual income
kakobrekla: i still dont see what the problem is
mircea_popescu: i think that's what they hoped it to be, but it didn't work out.
midnightmagic: Pretend you are my better then. I'm confident you don't grow out of that no matter how true or untrue it may be.
midnightmagic: I'm fairly sure you have no idea how old I am.
mircea_popescu: i guess for some views that constitutes proof of progress.
mircea_popescu: but anyway. i'm satisfied myself, thanks.
midnightmagic: I literally don't have an answer for your contrived example.
midnightmagic: I don't feel so.
mircea_popescu: (yes, surmise but not conclude. which is specifically why i used that word and not the other. i'm trying to help you judge here.)
midnightmagic: I surmise but not conclude, as you'll note in my previous comment about the possibilities of why you're doing that.
mircea_popescu: it's because i presupposed in your usage of "progress" that you do not look at percents but absolutes.
mircea_popescu: listen, the reason i phrased that way is not because of a misunderstanding of statistics, as you seem inclined to conveniently surmise.
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: The population of the world also went up. Your statements of statistics are flawed, and either you're doing it on purpose and waiting for me to mock you, or you really do think these things, in which case I .. well I'm not sure where to go from there.
midnightmagic: You make a nonsense assertion about Bayesian reasoning being nonsense and then tell me I'm incapable of cognition for saying you're making ignorant comments?
midnightmagic: I'm no sure you understand what Bayesian reasoning is at this point.
mircea_popescu: i'll rest on that one, seems too easy.
midnightmagic: Thus, I do not agree to disagree.
midnightmagic: And I would say that those who prey on other humans and run confidence games with them are more responsible for the destruction you think outweighs the progress humans have made in science and medicine.
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: If you would like to make a specific point about altruism rather than make quotation-like assertions, I would be happy to entertain it.
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: Nor is courtesy and kindness in the face of cruelty anything I would espouse.
dub: its been 30 odd years since I've been there
dub: tbh I spent ten minutes looking for porn and gave up
smickles: heh, actually i do think it's funny, but it sends a bad message
mircea_popescu: i'm like in love over here.
jurov: i dunno. so 1DzxV3arKg22TfVYx4nw1rLFJmjLTnXHi7 then
jurov: i remember i had to add them all cause some browser was unhappy
smickles: hmm, i'm going to have to send a new csr to those guys now, arn't i
smickles: i will send you a tip if this works
smickles: jurov: i believe i do have a passphrase set on the key
smickles: and i've come across a handfull of "UPDATE: i fixed it after finding _this_line_ in som OTHER logs" But they never say what logs those were
smickles: unfortunately, i don't think i have the right kind of mind for that solution
smickles: the internet is so useful: "Wow after hours of digging I finally found the solution thanks to a post by rajanichand Here what I did in httpd.conf I commented out the SSLCACertificateFile line and it worked."
smickles: mircea_popescu: but this should be simple, and common. I'm sure many people install ssl certs
smickles: how am i supposed to fix something when there are no errormessages or logs?
kakobrekla: how could i have missed that.
kakobrekla: Inaba: My open offer for a bet: BFL will ship the promised products within a reasonable time frame (as determined by a reputable member of this community, I propose Casascius). I offer BTC from 100 BTC to 2000 BTC. I am also willing to accept the domain name joshzerlan.com in lieu of BTC on the part of Bryan Micon.
smickles: and i can't find any useful error in the logs
smickles: and, ugg, i just installed a proper ssl cert ... now apache wont start
smickles: RandolphDuke: i believe that coinbr is the only mpex broker with a website
jurov: no, i'm coinbr owner, mircea_popescu is mpex owner
RandolphDuke: from what i take it btc-tc takes 5% of the dividend ammount
jurov: i have just issue with communication and delays
jurov: okay okay, i'm not complaining about that
dub: jurov: not to be rude, and this is why I still use linode, you can't expect any $20 vps to handle anything critical
dub: I would only go with big name brand for a vps
jurov: to be honest, i was thinking about moving somewhere else back after december outage
jurov: ^exactly this i was speaking about
mircea_popescu: Mar 07 03:48:14 <Namworld> i would be surprised, jurov
jurov: okay, it was the server then, not the dc. and yes, i shouldn't have expected any thing else
dub: and yes I took out linodes fremont facility once
mircea_popescu: yeah i guess communications didn't work.
dub: I think while there could have been a quicker response (and really the pain here is for any other customer of bitvps), a $20 vps is not expected to handle any kind of dos in a way that mitigates the attack for its target
mircea_popescu: if i may, everyone has a point here. in fairness we didnt really know how hot things will get early on. in retrospect it can be said that "well duh, obviously if it can take out mpex's main it will wipe a vps somewhere". but at the time i was busy and i guess nobody else realised it.
jurov: Namworld, i wanted you to consider the possibility beforehand. not being caught like a deer in the headlights
jurov: No, I think the right answer would be to ask the client why they expect the dos and where
Namworld: <jurov> okay, so i'll ask only one thing. next time client asks you "in case of ddos, will i be billed the traffic?" what do you answer?
jurov: i hope not "i'll be surprised" like you did last week just few hours before the ddos
jurov: okay, so i'll ask only one thing. next time client asks you "in case of ddos, will i be billed the traffic?" what do you answer?
Namworld: I've cancelled the service, you'll no longer receive invoices/notices.
Namworld: I wasn't aware of anything
jurov: Namworld, PR-side I recommend that next time a client mentions ddos possibility, you damn well listen to them
Namworld: I should probably handle PR from now on...
jurov: really should i dig them for you?
Namworld: I'm not in there 24/7
Namworld: I hope he wasn't as harsh as that short sentence makes it sound.
jurov: smickles, i shopped here: https://www.namecheap.com/ssl-certificates/comodo.aspx
smickles: so i'm doing research
smickles: well, i'm not finding this 10 euro guy who you have
smickles: kakobrekla: suppose i tell them that it's an accounting service and not mention anything about bitcoin
jurov: i hereby recommend you all to stick it into orifice of your choice
jurov: oh Namworld, btw i got an invoice from bitvps
Namworld: Well I managed to get gigavps to remove me from skype by arguing against his paid upgrade.
kakobrekla: i have a guy here that can make em for 10e or so
jurov: i got comodo positivessl
mircea_popescu: why do you think i don't ?
smickles: mircea_popescu: i thought you just didn't use ssl, so how would you know?
TomServo: I don't understand how the price is holding given the uncertainty surrounding the bug.
smickles: ug, why can't i tell this thing to use my self signed cert ?