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mircea_popescu: sweet trinque
mircea_popescu: and the sucuri bs also fucks up the url by lowercasing it
mircea_popescu: that they don't fucking detect it
asciilifeform: May 06 12:50:33 <mircea_popescu>and in other "internet security" lulz, https://www.virustotal.com/es-ar/url/900d5651bf561ce804766d1a8f3483080a0e3879f16bfb7f820fdffef82fb807/analysis/1462553268 << what is notable about this sample ?
mircea_popescu: are they ?
mircea_popescu: and https://sitecheck.sucuri.net/results/yerl.org/vyvkz to go with it.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-06#1464063 << yet another item they used to have in teh best soviet union. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: so something like "anyone voiced can calc and google, gotta be in lordsheep to curl ?"
trinque: I like making use of the WoT just fine
trinque: yeah, not to be a broken record, but had we a gossipd, I'd just give people I trust access to dangerous tools.
mircea_popescu: i guess that's not trivial huh.
mircea_popescu: trinque sed and grep then ? or just parse out their shellout calls ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it was surreal, last night, whole squad of folks were rubbing in 'all the fun stuff' i could do if only i agreed to join hitler's wot ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: as to the last one : that's it, one call to curl passed through whatever chain of awk/sed/grep
trinque: crap the latter to wotpaste?
mircea_popescu: yeah speaking of which, anyone of the botmasters, young or old, wanna make a gribble replacement ?
asciilifeform: when's the last time this worked ?!
gribble: Error: We broke The Google!
mircea_popescu: "who the fuck are you ?!" "TREMBLE BEFORE ME! FOR I AM TEH GOMIDED OF LYSDEXIA!"
mircea_popescu: that's what you get for being a terminal blessed with the daily touch of a gomided such as myself!
mircea_popescu: EVEN MY TERMINAL KNOWS!
mircea_popescu: that's a red herring. aptly displayed on my terminal in red font.
asciilifeform: well, not being a demigod like mircea_popescu , i actually rely on other people to want to.
mircea_popescu: it's the #1 symptom of esl-ism, and as unbefitting as it's unseemly.
mircea_popescu: stop wanting other people to.
mircea_popescu: cuz this "i want FOR X to Y" ain't a want, it's a voodoo.
mircea_popescu: well ok mr turtle, so whadda ya want then.
asciilifeform: with that in mind, i am good at a reasonable breadth of things, but again 99% of the employment in them, in as far as i can access, is usg.
mircea_popescu: lol. "the sewage goes into this pond i live in" "you need to live in a better pond" "didn't we discuss the whole i'm not walking on land again thing???"
asciilifeform: didn't we discuss the whole 'i am not voluntarily being 19 with none-of-the-upsides again' thing ?
asciilifeform: (there is an unknown percentage, to be fair, of 'nonemployment' work also, i.e. 0day market, overlapping with the 99, but i have - as previously discussed - no 'in' to it.)
asciilifeform: consider, 99+% of the employment in my field is raw usg.
asciilifeform: quite the rarity, and may be 'too good to be true' etc.
asciilifeform: and yeah it took a few rehashes of contract.
asciilifeform: even simpler than there, they make exactly one $item and that's it.
mircea_popescu: do you tell them during interview that a) everything you agree to will have to be presented in writing ; b) you will not do x y or z and soo n ?
asciilifeform: (kept around for scutwork after having refused to take holy orders)
asciilifeform: just as well that i am leaving rupture farmz, because a few honest folks there finally informed me of what i already knew, which is that i was being 'warehoused'
a111: Logged on 2016-05-06 15:57 mircea_popescu: anyway, perhaps the next one's satisfactorily ribbed or what.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-06#1463998 << no leaving the house!111 ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: linked therein.
asciilifeform: but in point of fact there is a tool.
jurov: asciilifeform: i was in jest, but ty
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes but he has a point, the derp brain is memetic not rational. "the x of y"
asciilifeform: vanity HASH is as strong as the hash algo
asciilifeform: so it is not the same.
asciilifeform: in bitcoin addr there is a ~hash~
asciilifeform: thing is, no sane person WANTS a vanity - that is CONSTRAINED SPACE - rsa key
asciilifeform: jurov: https://evil32.com links to one
mircea_popescu: anyway, perhaps the next one's satisfactorily ribbed or what. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: you're not only a stakebunny, but also a total stake slut! keep changing them.
mircea_popescu: pity usagi is not here to generate some keys for later. iirc he had a service to generate long rsa keys for people.
mircea_popescu: and in today's breakfast helper, http://66.media.tumblr.com/ae8701991aba86b03f6fb3ef0ae6de37/tumblr_nq9mclHDz81tgdz6ro1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ~today~ no such value. ~tomorrow~, when the ocean of shit overflows - there will be.
asciilifeform: but, handily, 'p' actually has 'if [this program evals to true] i rate [key k] [rating r]' as primitive...
mircea_popescu: but that aside, who knowns, mebbe.
mircea_popescu: i don't currently see much value in someone bringing old unknown key rather than freshly made.
asciilifeform: imho we're nearly there even now.
mircea_popescu: there's also that lobe, as distant and sf-ish as it may sound.
asciilifeform: what i do see, is that this'd be good insurance for the spamocalypse when we start ~demanding~, e.g., pre-2020 keys, even to be LOOKED AT
mircea_popescu: recall, the WoT is NOT!!! about the user in question. but about his deeds and their reflection. only.
trinque: asciilifeform: key still identifies a point in time if it produced any signed material
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the matter is not what the derp uses it for. the matter is that i want to mark specific, extant and known items.
mircea_popescu: curtrently this is dark info.
mircea_popescu: yes, but for instance i want to be able to nuke some keys of some people who will not come here if it kills them.
asciilifeform: so what'd be the point of stowing the junkyard.
asciilifeform: as i currently understand, most uncommitted derps lose their old keyz ten times before breakfast every morning.
asciilifeform: the other thing is,
mircea_popescu: "we will have all keys prior to T, and add new ones on the basis of X spamtrap only"
mircea_popescu: andre "what happens when enemy gets wind" 1. this is a very valuable canary for such a wonderous change in the enemy ; 2. time offers a natural breaking point, we're protected well by the configuration of the field.
mircea_popescu: note that ~all us "Science and Engineering" consists of young men doing homework in a poorly managed, ineptly driven manner collectively known as "phd"
asciilifeform: 'but pythagoras already did this!111'
mircea_popescu: depends. if the point is the end result, then yes. if the point is the person doing it, then no.
asciilifeform: trick is that it works best if you have the duplicated thing done in ~improved~ way rather than ad-hoc
mircea_popescu: (in retrospect, from my very instructive republican experience, im discovering that the principal job of management actually is to decide when to and when not to duplicate work. it's a much deeper point than it seems.)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah. the whole point is to duplicate work.
asciilifeform: where the db already lives.
trinque: it heads towards deedbot being a keyserver too, already sorta is with $key
asciilifeform: perhaps some of this could happen on the massive 'dulap'
trinque: I'm gonna need to upgrade the box, but that's been on my list for a while anyway
mircea_popescu: in any case, the driver for this thought process in my head is, believe it or not, the messing around with phf re beefy few days ago. seems a deeply valuable learning experience, to be exposed to large sets in this sense.
trinque: postgresql can probably handle that
asciilifeform: anyway it's doable, but you gotta think about what happens when enemy gets wind and generates a quintillion crud keys.
mircea_popescu: trinque asciilifeform has some sort of point, BUT, i think it should be approachable. needs some cranium grease put into it all.
trinque: asciilifeform: how big is the whole key archive?
asciilifeform: the big deal is that a db that gets ~added to~ is not so simple as 'tree of 40 levels'
mircea_popescu: seems to me it'd be a tree, 40 deep. whats teh big deal
punkman: you don't have to import it into gpg
asciilifeform: 'there aint no such thing as a free lunch'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: l0l! yer gonna love the n*log(n) lookups
mircea_popescu: on some level it seems one shouldn't be precluded in rating a key merely because the owner of that key failed to register it with teh republic.
mircea_popescu: trinque what are your thoughts re importing into deedbot the ENTIRE key db as owned by phuctor ?
asciilifeform: and when i say 'show me a place ~not~ ruled by usg muppets where a cultured man might want to live' mircea_popescu laughs.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-06 04:46 mircea_popescu: he's competent, economically. better, what's that. he's a faithful usg muppet, working to make the place more in line with washington's interest.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-06#1463847 << ahahaha mircea_popescu may as well open, e.g., scintillator fibre factory, in kentucky then ?! ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-06#1463926 << this is fall-off-your-chair hilarious until you realize that - quite likely - no puritan derp actually went and told africans not to fuck. instead, the MONEY bought yachts, fattened harvard, bought dope, and whatever else anglo ruling class imbeciles normally do with it. ☝︎
asciilifeform: because their search space is constrained.
asciilifeform: but what it DOES mean is that folks who know 'where the corpse is buried' can derive yer keyz.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-06 04:00 mircea_popescu: search me how the fuck they managed to get rng in js, but w/e.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-06#1463821 << realize that 'poor rng' does not necessarily mean 'phuctorable.' if the keyspace is reduced from, say, 10^100 to 10^10, it does not follow that given the number of extant keys there will be duplicate factors. ☝︎