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mod6: what i also want to build is a CI thingy for trb ☟︎
mod6: <+shinohai> ;;later tell mod6 my tbot can now add/remove tickets, little ugly but working :D << ah, ok. are you wanting to take yours all the way?
shinohai: hold on I'll bring it to ur chan
mod6: <+shinohai> ;;later tell mod6 http://ephemeralp2p.durazo.us/42bb769b817d7b02f237f1754ab7c1287880dc59547f30af28208ff21a3caff6 << ahh cool! what's it do?
mircea_popescu: i'm looking at teh data.
asciilifeform: iirf those turned into 50.
mircea_popescu: nah, it's the expensive sort. upenn et co. the cheap sort do 10k instate-20-odd k out of state. exactly like a community/agricollege.
asciilifeform: and this is the 'cheap' sort.
mircea_popescu: so tuition is by now like 50k a year huh.
asciilifeform: these lands, they be cursed.
asciilifeform: even goes through socks
asciilifeform: i can walk into my back yard right now and get stung by 7 types of insect.
mircea_popescu: few summers back, took girls to field to observe beehives and other such orchard lovely things. motherfucking bee came out of nowhere, stung me in the ear.
asciilifeform: but yes, they still have a good chunk of campus devoted to animals, and fields for 'test crop', etc.
mircea_popescu: if i had parents not only idiotic enough to insist i get a degree but actually brain-manged enough to do this in the us, i'd have gone to arizona u. definitely.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: today there is precious little left but for the party.
asciilifeform: it, like all of the others, was originally an agronomic thing, eons ago. and there are still signs of it everywhere
mircea_popescu: how's the party scene
a111: Logged on 2016-05-15 14:39 asciilifeform: that is where most folks go. incl. asciilifeform.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-15#1466778 << aaahahahaha what, alf went to agricultural college ?! dudewhat, like the kursk state agricultural academy ?! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: son of julio ; a sort of latino michael. they still trot him out, propped against some wood and a chick or two to sell perfume or w/e
asciilifeform in the depths of his pit, has heard of none of these people
mircea_popescu: oh nm, birdy sez she married.... wait for this one... enrique iglesias!
mircea_popescu: if the ru mob had any brains, she'd have been exactly that, inna.ru
mircea_popescu: anyway, review the woman's record, she smells like a fixed up wonder from a mile away. "you can't fix the champ", sez rod steiger. she never lost... to anyone outside of the tops.
asciilifeform: that it is more like buying plutonium than milk
asciilifeform: i thought mircea_popescu specifically explained that this is not how pro grade whores work ?
asciilifeform: it is almost at the level of postulate, that folks who have dirigible are those who don't need.
asciilifeform is too thick to see the connection
mircea_popescu: i never pursued the matter and by now i guess she'd be old. but anyway.
mircea_popescu: anyway : as i watched the woman be in 50% of the shots and never ever win anything, it occured to me that maybe she's doing the same thing, only much better ?
mircea_popescu: ~same thing was reprised with the "leaked" "sex tapes" by proletariat whores, aka "pop singers"
asciilifeform: the kind where the rope is perhaps an arm long, and the hangman has to twist yer head just-so to snap it, using rope as a fulcrum
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know, well i dunno if you know or not, but anyway - at the same time women contemplating a career in porn were more than willing to shoot a few features for the more respectable sites ~for free, because they gained popularity and a stamp of quality.
asciilifeform: does everybody know what this was ?
asciilifeform: i always found austro-hungarian hanging to be interesting
mircea_popescu: hanging, what's that, couldn't find someone that'd care enough ?
mircea_popescu: the problem there is, well... "what's the best way to jack off ?" "eh, get kournikova to do it."
phf: w.s. burroughs wrote about that one a bunch (he had a general obsession with hanging)
asciilifeform: but only there.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not entirely lost. much to my shock and awe, was recently in an oglaf!
asciilifeform: bouncing to and fro.
asciilifeform: where folks would string themselves up, properly, with a noose, and (most of the time) live
asciilifeform: relatedly, i was reading a thing re 19th c performers, and one of the tricks lost to modernity is the sport hanging
asciilifeform: the turks did it with a bowstring though, not bare hands
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well yes. but i don't expect you'd do this in the bedroom, it's bad for the brain.
asciilifeform: eh they didn't choke, they strangled
mircea_popescu: but otherwise ottoman executions rather eastern in their excruciating approach.
mircea_popescu: and i did not say strangle idly - it was the method for that situation. no idea if you've ever choked anyone but it is a) deeply sexual and b) probably the easiest way to go, outside of freezing, which they had no access to.
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mircea_popescu: i believe the key to understanding ottoman poetry (which, btw, was very accomplished) is in this tension.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform note that they never ate the mother.
mircea_popescu: to tell her that well... ima strangle all your babies, you may call me chronos now.
asciilifeform: eating siblings is optional, depending on how small is the box you live in.
mircea_popescu: today is the day you, a healthy, talented, good riding and accomplished poet of a man, go to your mother who is this woman that saved your life as a 3yo and shared all the ups and downs of the past two decades,
asciilifeform: hey, everybody eats their parents
mircea_popescu: it;s a bitch not more novel and general literary exploration of that conflict has been produced by the oh-so-unignorant west. it's a fucking fascinating situation.
mircea_popescu: notwithstanding that the woman's clintonicity was 2/3 of the reason guy even had a shot at sultanhood.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform su had a very similar problem. they all do - turks kinda had to kill all their brothers, including their mother's other sons.
mircea_popescu: (to ease the work of the research-scientists and chemists of world renown, egology is a husserlian concept.)
asciilifeform: simpler than this, even, usgocracy has no provision for arbitrary cuts. given as anybody arbitrarily excluded from whatever ends up forming interest group, 'pumping his rights', etc. and buluceala.
mircea_popescu: in general it is directly obvious to a woman that "yeah you have a nice cock, but i'm full ty". somehow the point is an egological insult to the healthy male.
mircea_popescu: and you know, in the endless "protocol vs promise" thing (such as - if you free man from labour, you will get incredible developments in culture and civilisation (promise) ; or else you'll get a horde of decayed re-monkeys (protocol) | respectively "if you include women in the political process, you'll get the fundamental if unobvious points to males, like this one, well included and represented into the public matters (promi
asciilifeform: the added lolspice is also from usg's inability to admit that, e.g., princeton admission, is ration of nomenklatura membership
mircea_popescu: hence the jew quotas.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: well no shit. but the usg variant specifically lacks a mechanism for 'you are competent but sorry we're out of jam'
mircea_popescu: as phf says, "it's nice to make an effort to see the competent are accidentally included". there's no promise there, nor can be. the only promise is that the shitheads won't long survive.
mircea_popescu: meritocracy means that all involved are competent ; not, pointedly not, that all competent are involved.
mircea_popescu: the notion that meritocracy means "EVERY meritous individual" gets a place is buluceala out and out, and has nothing to do with meritocracy. such a socialist rewriting of the concept is an insult to humanity in the first place ; but to sit and wonder why the cardboard cut "in the shape of a car" and with car written on it doesn't take you places... c;mon.
mircea_popescu: mply "it's undemocratic and therefore bad" or "it's unrepresentative and therefore evil". Reality doesn't work that way."
mircea_popescu: "The #bitcoin-assets aristocracy is not incompetent. Whether in anyone's estimation others not named are just as or even more competent is immaterial : arbitrariety is not the problem, incompetence is. The #bitcoin-assets aristocracy is not particularly fixed, at least in the sense of it being extensible (in fact the list was 25 names long earlier). Therefore, objections on this line will have to be a lot more refined than si
a111: Logged on 2016-05-15 14:37 asciilifeform: the basic unsolvable boojum here is that 'meritocracy' is ultimately a form of buluceala.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-15#1466772 << no bojum, basic or otherwise. the problem is long solved and the solution well known. i even published it, but you overlooked. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and then it blows up.
mircea_popescu: what you do to slaves ?
mircea_popescu: this view may even be correct ; but then their inability to maintain abundant, loyal whores is very striking. it's such an obvious point of failure, after all. but hey, not that i don't understand them - the whore will kneel lovingly, but not before every idiot. and being a self-indulgent idiot is so much... easier... and nicer... and pushing yourself so... hmm... is it even compatible with the dignity of warrior ? ain't that
mircea_popescu: in their view, strangely mirrored by various other failed warrior castes, such as the manchuku or the usg, translation is a whore's job.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-15 14:34 asciilifeform: not that quota would have helped.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-15#1466771 << it's more complicated. turks believed that it is below the dignity of a warrior (you have to remember - for a stretch about a degree of magnitude longer than "modernity", being the guy who beat up the cows, bipedal or otherwise, and took their shit was the only respectable line of work for a healthy male ; starting with the romans) to learn languages. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: you certainly can't put later lines in if earlier lines are missing, that's asking for black eyes.
phf: but seeing the general freak out that happens, i think that i'd rather it was self healing, and a message or two was lost :p
mircea_popescu: phf i agree to the concept.
phf: i personally prefer logs to be accidentally realtime, but with stronger correctness guarantees, so it's down for a bit, but there's no message loss. otherwise we have a new jersey solution of "check that a111 is in chan before you say things that you don't want lost"
mircea_popescu: w actually did!) would have more or less brought back the burning stake.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-15 14:32 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: similar situation with 'jew quota' in su. 'officially' it never existed. in practice, any serious institute where the management did ~not~ quietly implement one, would rapidly turn ~80% jew and the brass would have to confront party official asking 'why are you running a synagogue here'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-15#1466767 << and if brass had unmitigated audacity to answer "because the jews educate their women to be sluts, which results in the boys being motivated to think, which means one of them can eat ten of your evanghelical shitheaded sons for breakfast. fix your fucking religion, you're lagging behind the fucking irish, even the negro reinterpretation thereof is more socially productive" (as a fe ☝︎
mircea_popescu: very good. see that this is a very iffy point of failure, in the sense that the chances to end up an enemy of the people inadvertently are possibly best. seeing the logs incorrect gets ~everyone's defcon level up a notch or two
phf: on the bright side it looks like i finally have time to work on some code improvements
phf: manual tit tickling ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-15 10:32 davout: phf: log doesn't appear to sync properly
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-15#1466754 << i checked, seems to be fixed. does it self-heal phf or do you have to tickle tits by hand ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: at least it won't make alf feel too alone.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, looking forward to more "{Security researchers|IT specialists|Computer experts} with {University of Derp in Derpistan|USG.RedHat.Whatever|The HTTPS Internet} published {Literotica|Fetlife|OkCupid|Ask.fm|Phuctor|whatever} {database|userlist|secret excel codebase} publicly! We don't have a copy because we don't believe in things, we prefer names."
mircea_popescu: but perhaps if you're esl, "made public" means "made privately available to some people who aren't us" or something. god knows everything else means something else, so what the hell's the difference.
mircea_popescu: do you know what the most read file for the month is, on trilema ? http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/lit.txt linked from http://trilema.com/2016/files-from-the-war-on-the-web-today-literotica/
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-15#1466759 << no they had published their research in 2005, it's just a) nobody saw it and b) it's STILL not fucking published omfg. ☝︎
asciilifeform: they ~will~ have one. it is, to use mircea_popescutronic terminology, simply a question of how thick the spiked club they will be raped with until submitting. ☟︎
asciilifeform: so knowing all of this, it is quite obvious, the americans do not want a 90%-chinese nomenklatura 20yrs from now.
asciilifeform: the third type, included here for completeness, is 'spam school', a straight chumpatron perpetrated largely on uppity proles. formerly cornered by places like 'strayer' but now the big boiz are expanding into the market.
asciilifeform: these are not really schools in the ordinary sense. yes, you can take classes, but it is nearly impossible to flunk, and really admission to, e.g., yale, is equiv. of nomenklatura membership.