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mircea_popescu: but in short : it's not
that ~my~ endeavours succeeding ;
there's no personal flair involved here, nor any magic. it's
that all
the endeavours of a certain
type will succeed.
Framedragger: hm. i guess your notion of "adoption" is not like many others. i.e., it's not a matter of "whether majority of animals use it", but rather "whether majority of intelligent animals use it", or somesuch. because folks are also super lazy about switching from a broken
thing
to a more functional and better
thing. case in point: much of enterprise software. (not
that
there may not be good gems
there)
mircea_popescu: there's no argument
to be had with functionality. not all
the
talk in
the world ; nor all
the money nor anything else can stand in front of something
that functions.
Framedragger: k, i see
the.. angle. i suppose you belief in
them having
to adapt or die comes from most of your endeavours of
the kind succeeding? which - don't get me wrong - is very admirable - but, like, it requires napoleonic levels of confidence. not
that it's bad in and of itself
mircea_popescu: there's at least a dozen disparate, independently useful items
that go into a gossipd.
mircea_popescu: anywya, once mod6 gets
that
T thing going we can actually create
tickets for all
this, which'll make
the
task less insane.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger actually,
the process of creating github and
then confusing git for github, aka embrace and extinguish / "rms-ing" is also amply discussed in
teh logs :)
☟︎ mircea_popescu: Framedragger read up on v, it's worth
the read. more generally, you are ideologically naive, for which reason you're perhaps missing
things. for instance, when i say "add a html parser" i do not mean "introduce support for
THEIR definitioon of html". rather, i mean "create our own html, and by its presence passively force
them
to adapt or die".
Framedragger: every
time git is confused for github, a kitten dies
danielpbarron: git is what, social media masquerading as some sort of programming
thing, not unlike how wikipedia is social media masquerading as an encyclopedia
Framedragger looks for reasons
to hate git in logs. (spoiler, i don't hate git.. at least not yet)
Framedragger: no but i've heard of it in logs. some approach
to patching and (presumably) general version control? or more
than
that, even?
Framedragger: libressl uses comic sans
to deter web people and dummy hipsters.
that in itself adds +10 in my book
Framedragger: i mean let's say one wouldn't depend on gnupg or anything like
that. fine. use RSA. but with
the (admirable) level of scrutiny employed herein, i'd be wary of even suggesting a single implementation of RSA which would not be shitty. i mean,
there is libressl...
Framedragger: i hear you. i'm just
thinking in more mundane/practical
terms, "can i build X without waiting for
the everything i'd need for X
to also be rewritten"
mircea_popescu: a properly made, functioning
this will
turn
the "browser" period over, entirely and without respite.
they'll become what
the bbs are.
mircea_popescu: and make no mistake, i said it and i'll say it again :
this is one of
those moments.
Framedragger: and accidentally won
the netscape wars. or whatever
mircea_popescu: Framedragger
the ~only way you're going
to end up with a web crypto api in browser is if you/someone builds
the social media app discussed and
then adds a html parser
to it.
Framedragger: goddamn language was designed in under
two weeks
Framedragger: "apparently you can't EVEN DO MATH in js" << yes yes YES :/ i knowz...
that's why people want a web crypto api (crypto itself implemented in browser).. but
the answer
to your snarky follow-up "that just adds salt
to
the wound" is yes.. it's doomed
mircea_popescu: anyway Framedragger : just
THAT fucks up permanently
the notion of "crypto in javascript".
mircea_popescu: so it has alll
the === lulz, but also... nonfunctioning arithmetic.
mircea_popescu: lmao. i dunno why
they have a page about how php sucks, and nothing about javascript. apparently you can't EVEN DO MATH in js (9007199254740993/28059810762433 === 321 is false).
mircea_popescu: a process
that'd have been perfectly safe on its own becomes deeply insecure when part of "the community".
mircea_popescu: this is like
the anti-vaccine. not immunity
through
the herd, but insecurity
through belonging
to a herd.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but even as a very low effort
thing you know, "everyone's on aws". and
they all use
the same fashionable shitstack. and
there's... millions of
them.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-20 15:16 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, random guy on reddit points out
to a very lulzy attack indeed. consider : you boot up 1k VMs running
the same os, and upon boot-up you sshgen. how many keys share primes even if
they are properly generated ?
mircea_popescu: not putting more in deliberately is one
thing ; but actually
taking
time
to remove
them... forget it, do it sometime when you do stuff with
the site.
mircea_popescu: giving
the web pointless buttons is what
the web is all about.
mircea_popescu: Moduli Waiting for
Test: 20 <<
this is like... permanently. pretty incredible, so "the public" puts in keys at about
the rate of 1 every 3 minutes for a month now ?
jurov: yes, going
to prep
the csv for download
mircea_popescu: we absoluely gotta get
those ssh keys in
there. jurov you actually working on it ?
mircea_popescu: there's no way
to check for
this "multiplicity", it's essentially brainwallets-for-computers.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, random guy on reddit points out
to a very lulzy attack indeed. consider : you boot up 1k VMs running
the same os, and upon boot-up you sshgen. how many keys share primes even if
they are properly generated ?
☟︎ BingoBoingo: Anyways best
thing in CHicago isn't even in Chicago. Go down
to Joilet and
tour
the old prison.
mircea_popescu: what do you mean! it's a
town so chic
they put it in
the name! chic-ago!
BingoBoingo: You could always just
take
the El
to random southside neighborhoods or play "James Lafond Presents"
BingoBoingo: Nah reactor was on University of Chicago campus, library where
the stadium was
BingoBoingo: I
think
they just have a dumb statue
there
though.
BingoBoingo: Oh
then you could
try
to go see
the site of
that reator
they built under
the sportsball bleachers
mircea_popescu: anabasis being
the one
true marathon. yes, good point, i shoulda said
that.
mircea_popescu: this means, a marathon, not a sprint ; and most
things "people generally" count as a marathon here are still a sprint
mircea_popescu: Framedragger
this problem re-occurs here with some frequency. #trilema and
tmsr generally are for adults.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform:
The river is
the best place
to
throw up after drinking in
the city
Framedragger: mircea_popescu:
thanks, appreciate it. but damn does it depress me a bit,
then
mircea_popescu: in
the sense
that you don't sit around
to sniff
the anthill, but merely care how
tall it is.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I ended up going cordless because I wanted
the battery.
mircea_popescu: strictly a matter of numbers, any 800 vote / 300 comment
thread is exactly equal
to any other.
BingoBoingo: Aha,
those are still around here. Popular for hunting camps and barns.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'll have
to disabuse you of
the notion
that "the content" ie "what it says" matters in
that context.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-20 14:44 BingoBoingo pretty happy with yesterday's string
trimmer purchase. Just kinda regrets going cordless electric and not 2-cycle.
BingoBoingo pretty happy with yesterday's string
trimmer purchase. Just kinda regrets going cordless electric and not 2-cycle.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: govt "borrows" in europe, pours
the cash into subsidies, defaults ; borrows more.
shinohai: ^ Of course
they'd say
that
THEY LIKE GOV SUBSIDIES
shinohai: Feel free ...
take it and run.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Imma have
to chop
this up a bit moar.