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asciilifeform: speaking of, if i lived in s america, i would definitely try to at least sneak a peek at the german villages
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform im thinking bayesian "rule system" / markov chains based off the next girl's brain wavery./
asciilifeform: more interesting than ~100% of modern day academe.
asciilifeform: what'll the headsets do
mircea_popescu: actually i suppose one should be a darling and a) add VR headests to the girls and b) add lsd at the top.
gribble: Error: We broke The Google!
mircea_popescu: measure creatinine clearance per intervals, send for publication to medical journals.
mircea_popescu: (tie womenz to stairwell, connect one's urethral intubation to the one below's laringeal intubation. pour cider in the mouthpipe of the topmost one)
mircea_popescu: if porn weren't so fucking dead, i might be making some avantgarde anatomy explorations. such as the female stairwell.
mircea_popescu: and as he's hurling through the air, his doppler-effected voice can be heard going "now that's what i caaall a blooowjoooobbbb"
mircea_popescu: so moments later the boa spits it out, and the rabbit goes flying over a large arc quarter mile wide
mircea_popescu: but fucking angora rabbit you know, all that fur, doesn't sit well with the snake
mircea_popescu: which proceeds to swallow it hole.
mircea_popescu: eventually he finds some people willing to do it. so they put the little rabbit in a room with this eighteen foot monster of a snake
mircea_popescu: angora rabbit goes to brothel. he asks for a blowjob
mircea_popescu: btw, do you know the joke with the angora rabbit at the brothel ?
mircea_popescu: do you know how many girls ate me to date ?
mircea_popescu: this first level, mechanical approach to things isn't going to yield much.
mircea_popescu: the larger cow also eats the prions.
asciilifeform: obviously the larger snake eats the smaller, not vice versa
mircea_popescu: there is this derpy episode when he wrote to some french wing to dissolve and go join whatever local socialists ; the plan "succeeded" because they were kicked out but when they got kicked out there were 300 of them, so SICK GAINZ!
mircea_popescu: surely ; but you know what trotsky tried to do to whatever party ?
asciilifeform: hirin' folx away in order to kill something is very much a thing that exists, tho. consider what, e.g., microshit, did to borland.
mircea_popescu: no recognizable "us" exists in the process, except if one's so culturally acclimated in the 1990s su mentality as to be able to reconstruct the world in their eyes.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-23 15:27 mircea_popescu: ie, the INDIVIDUAL as a "us item", aspirationally ; denied the "su item" as a projection of his own, himself.
asciilifeform: is the only ~reasonable hypothesis i know of for most of it.
mircea_popescu: the collecting of defectors, as a perceived phenomena, is imo best explained by the internal duality of the very defectors in question, fighting with their own demons.
asciilifeform: and i have nfi what the motivation for vacuuming up most of the relevant folk, was. my entire point was that the motivation remains, to me, a mystery.
mircea_popescu: the us was just there.
mircea_popescu: my thinking is that this is a passive thing - the usg wasn't collecting them more than the sewer collects pearl necklaces.
asciilifeform: collecting su defectors was very much a pre-2001 thing
mircea_popescu: and on the other hand, i don't admit that 'stealing people for the sake of stealing', whatever may mean, is either related to what we were discussing or a useful method to approach the subject matter we were discussing.
mircea_popescu: look - the blunders of usg post taliban beheading in 2001 are not more meaningful nor worthy of investigation in the direct sense than the movement of a salted snail. so i don't admit that whatever post 2001 example of behaviour or anecdotal poit of evidence may be used as part of a larger construction of ideas.
asciilifeform: alternative would be what..? that everyone was stolen with a clear purpose ?
mircea_popescu: i lend no credence to the theory.
asciilifeform: was re 'stealing people for the sake of stealing'
mircea_popescu: anyway, i feel dumber for having dug up into the unfunny pit of usg-ian unintentional comedy. was there a point to this excursion ?
asciilifeform: for this.
asciilifeform: well recall, i recently learned that nsa has blanket license to piss on 'equal employment' crapolade
mircea_popescu: ie, what if the black dude were a white blond girl claiming rape ?
mircea_popescu: "everyone knows" etc. anyway : the sterling dude had his discrimination suit thrown out of court because "sikrits". much more interesting angle than all the rest - where's the limit of "human rights" ?
asciilifeform had nfi this existed
mircea_popescu: incidentally, J.A. Parker's apology / trashing of the da should be mandatory reading for anyone on this "usg can do things in its own courts" tack.
mircea_popescu: A LOT MORE than 50k a year. right ?
mircea_popescu: ^ equally lulzy case. accused of things, govt failed to prove ; eventually they settled, guy got 1.6mn out of the deal.
deedbot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wen_Ho_Lee << Wen Ho Lee - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://www.wenholee.org/ << WenHoLee.org | | http://www.nytimes.com/2001/02/04/us/the-making-of-a-suspect-the-case-of-wen-ho-lee.html?pagewanted=all << The Making of a Suspect - The Case of Wen Ho Lee - NYTimes.com
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha, that
asciilifeform: (or more recently, raghead general helpfully snapping selfie with ipnohe and uploading own coordinates to nsa)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "operation merlin" was one of the countless usg ss blunders cca 1998 ; it actually did something cca 2001 ; described in a 2010 book, for which some black dude was sentenced to jail in 2015.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: usg has this 'orcs are dumb' thing going. and isn't even always wrong - e.g., winblowz at natanz centrifuge plant
mircea_popescu: i don't put any stock in this story.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if we're still speaking of the same man, the thing played out in 1990s
mircea_popescu: the whole idiocy of this construction - so the iranians were not going to compare the designs with other designs ?
mircea_popescu: dude. a) 2015 ; b) things, not own asshole ; c) you pay 60k a year you get exactly what you paid for, lmao.
asciilifeform: what's the man gonna do if he decides 60k is chump change ? defect to zimbabwe instead ?
asciilifeform: plenty of ru defectors sold far bigger things for far less
asciilifeform: why would they.
mircea_popescu: for a nuclear physicist risking his neck. fancy that!
mircea_popescu: among other incredibly lulzy points : the guy's salary was ~60k a year.
mircea_popescu: i recall now, the supposed.... whatever the fuck it was, bizarro clinton thing with iran. almost exactly the same quality of secret service work as the "saddam has wmds" thing.
mircea_popescu: i don't even count this sort of shit, for all you know it's a movie trailer.
mircea_popescu: ah, i thought this was 70s, wtf 2015 recent events.
asciilifeform: ^ whole thread under link.
mircea_popescu: iirc that was a conviction neh ?
asciilifeform: and usg somehow forced to cough up exhibits of what was leaked
asciilifeform: article concerned a 'leak trial'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-01-29#997014 << thread. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: these are the "partners" that went to russia in the end neh ?
mircea_popescu: we might be tlking of diff guys.
asciilifeform digs futilely in l0gz for the story
asciilifeform: (usg went to whine)
asciilifeform: recall, it was the opposite
mircea_popescu: at least until something happens on tv, or w/e.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha, how it usually works, the dudette then goes to the inept-woman-chorus and they wail for a while.
mircea_popescu: but the whole nonsense is wholly predicated on the inner self-representatons of an intellect divorced from reality for a long while.
mircea_popescu: fortunatelly they moved on to "sexual soimething or the other" now.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall, this turned into a disastrous scandal, when (quite plausibly, and with much courtroom wankery to follow) was leaked.
mircea_popescu: the courts of common pleas are full of this inept bullshit, usually dudette with absolutely nothing going for her argues that "company allowed her to interview to steal her ideas and give them to X team of theirs".
asciilifeform: and sent him (why? ask them , not me) to deliver the schems
asciilifeform: well the interesting bit, iirc, is that it was not 'job interview' in the customary sense, usg had no intention of actually using the fella in the stated capacity, they simply wanted a plausible-looking piece of shit to 'hangout leak' to ir. so they took his, and munged the component values for good measure
mircea_popescu: so how is this milking, and if it is who's milking whom.
mircea_popescu: in the sense of, yet another dude that failed his job interview, notwithstanding that he came "highly qualified" and "he had bills to pay". that ?
asciilifeform: and when he had done this, the result was judged and the milking deemed concluded.
asciilifeform: iirc there was a specific report of what milking consisted of - he was sent to los alamos and asked to design detonator for nuke, and told that it would be tried, and had better be of quality
asciilifeform: he: 'i need a job' usg: 'you will be mule to ir'
mircea_popescu: "allowed to post on reddit all day for a spell" ?
mircea_popescu: so then what do oyu mean by "milked" ?
asciilifeform: taken to usa, and milked, and eventually handlers concluded 'useless, what we have >= what he has, on all subj'
mircea_popescu: ah i recall this. ok, what of him ?
asciilifeform: the one sent to ir with doctored schematics, which he 'helpfully' fixed en route
asciilifeform: he is in the l0gz...
asciilifeform: the example currently in my head is the ru nuke detonator bloke
mircea_popescu: now, i can appreciate you personally wish to look at things in this "management doesn't matter and doesn't exist, so no difference should be made between gasteropode and man", but this is really nonsense. there is such difference, and it's called a spine.
mircea_popescu: no, looky. if the case is that the knowledge vessel was a jwz, which is to say all juice no politics, then the truthful rendition of the situation is, that the knowledge in question was removed from its unstable situation, to a more sensible one. otherwise, if the vessel in question is a balanced construction, the attempts to "remove" run into the age old "nsa can't hold bitcoin and stay nsa" issue as discussed in the logs.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> shinohai: wat << Baltimore cop cleared of all charges. "Black Spring" incoming to James Lafond Presents Baltimore
asciilifeform: 'emptied', to somebody running agents, is sort of same as empty applied to bottle of vodka - yes, '40 drops rule', you can keep shaking it and get >0 output almost asymptotically infinitely - but at some point the expense of the effort is > yield
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform understand that this image "emptied, cut loose" is entirely nonsensical. knowledge is not a substance to be filled with or emptied of.
mircea_popescu: anyway, to make that obscurity clearer : sentence structure is agent - verb - object - 2nd object. agent denies to x y. the agent = the INDIVIDUAL as a "us item", aspirationally ; the verb = denied ; the object = himself. "the "su item" as a projection of his own" is a third party, 2nd object.
asciilifeform: (folks shipped over, milked for a spell of what they knew, then cut loose)
asciilifeform: it fit in a few cases known to me