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spandrell: it's hard to meet people, living in japan and all
spandrell: and i'm pretty sure he's not one of them
spandrell: i've only met two people ever from this kind of place
mircea_popescu: ^ it's all integrated, you know. the someone was asciilifeform
spandrell: somebody claimed to have met me in meatspace
spandrell: btw as per the log you sent me
mircea_popescu: so no such thing can ever again exist.
mircea_popescu: well, it's a loose assemblage of terrorists dedicated to destroying the very possibility of what you'd call "a state" and salting the earth where it stood
mircea_popescu: the most serene republic is the most serene because it is the sovereign of all fiat governments, not because it's quiet.
spandrell: what is this place about? here i was thinking it was a bitcoin forum or something
mircea_popescu: but serenity is here used in the metaphorical, political sense of medieval europe
spandrell: contrasted the utmost serenity of venice with the complete fucked up madness of genoa
mircea_popescu: then it works well, that's the reference.
spandrell: i was just listening to a podcast on venice while driving
mircea_popescu: o hello there.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and check out the comments - he has his very own viragh all spinning.
mircea_popescu: (and yes the book burning was correct in spirit, if not particularly productive in implementation. the faux "humanism" nonsense is infamant.)
mircea_popescu: guy even groks the fucking pest confucius was.
mircea_popescu: re about righteousness and love, about what is right for all humanity”. This in 300 BC. Do you see now why the First Emperor burnt their books and buried the scholars alive after he unified the Empire?"
mircea_popescu: "So basically, Confucius today would approve of Angela Merkel and Bryan Caplan. Thanks dude. No wonder he was never taken seriously by any of the dozens of kings of his time, and died a low-class civil servant. His universalism however was catnip for the nascent class of non-aristocratic bureaucrats, who developed it for centuries after his death. They loved this “we are above armies, borders, and that gruesome stuff. We ca
mircea_popescu: check this out!
mircea_popescu: this is approximately how a working thinker works.
mircea_popescu: he is clever. to wit : "What kind of intellectual climate existed in that time. What happens when everyone is coming up with new ideas all the time? Think about it in contemporary terms. What happens when everybody and his grandma has his own ideas is… a whole lot of signaling spirals."
asciilifeform: i suggest mircea_popescu or hanbot try..
asciilifeform: pretty sure i met him in meatspace once or twice.
asciilifeform: seems like fella actually reads the language.
mircea_popescu: anyway, props to the blody shovel dude for noticing the obvious
mircea_popescu: in the end, there's no real solution to naggum's point. herd tither.
asciilifeform: sorta why we put salt on the slug, no ?
mircea_popescu: which really would be to everyone's great benefit.
asciilifeform: which is GREAT!11111 because now they can drop T3rr0R157!1111 keyz, e.g., mircea_popescu's
mod6: <+trinque> monday night I'm gonna migrate deedbot off my trb node box; will be much more responsive << cool
trinque: "Luckily, signature verification crypto doesn't have to worry about side channel attacks. Alternatively, we could add openssl as a dependency and outsource the signature verification to it."
mircea_popescu: brilliant solution. now they'll be responsible for curating it.
asciilifeform: eschewing wot is the exact equivalent of eschewing toilet training.
asciilifeform: 'people will upload cp to sks!1111' 'what to DOOOOOO?!!!' 'censor everything!'
asciilifeform: http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/sks-devel/2015-05/msg00022.html << hilarious related thread from last year ☟︎
trinque: bwahahaha that's great
trinque: monday night I'm gonna migrate deedbot off my trb node box; will be much more responsive
trinque: psa that joe's datacenter will happily stand up an openbsd box on the cheap
asciilifeform: eh this is moar of su 'sov realism' than life.
mircea_popescu: somehow i doubt the real life models were nearly as... bubbly.
mircea_popescu: dude chinese people from the mao ebullitious era all share this rodent appearance. like walking voles or something, all round and teethy.
asciilifeform: interestingly, not 1 of the last 3 phuctor pops, imports in any version of gpg i have.
asciilifeform: i suspect we're gonna see more of these.
asciilifeform: ^ mircea_popescu there's one of yer divisible-by-3's.
deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 819733497 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'David Eisenblaetter <d.eisenblaetter@gmx.de>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/1DD107254DCFC376B8BE46E0E2262793C90EC35088C87891063AE5C96240E77E
asciilifeform: in up, thus reducing the likely costs of defection. The way to signal your intention to defect is to come up with a good excuse. A good excuse to be disloyal becomes a rallying point through which other defectors can coordinate and cover their asses so that the ruling coalition doesn’t punish them. What is a good excuse?'
asciilifeform: 'More likely than not, some members of the ruling coalition are not very loyal. They’d rather defect. But they can’t backstab the coalition just like that. You don’t do that; it looks bad. Your comrades will go against you. There are costs to defection. Unless you’re not the only defector. You need a way to signal your intention to defect, so that other disloyal fucks such as yourself (and they’re bound to be others) can jo
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo will find one of the lulz interesting -- https://bloodyshovel.wordpress.com/2015/12/30/men-doing-their-own-thing
asciilifeform: veneration for the sacred object in no apparent way diminished.'
asciilifeform: venerated, and the gift of the mango was lauded as evidence of the Chairman’s deep concern for the workers. Then everyone in the factory filed by and each worker drank a spoonful of the water in which the sacred mango had been boiled. After that, the revolutionary committee ordered a wax model of the original mango. The replica was duly made and placed on the altar to replace the real fruit, and workers continued to file by, their
asciilifeform: ration. The wax-covered fruit was placed on an altar in the factory auditorium, and workers lined up to file past it, solemnly bowing as they walked by. No one had thought to sterilize the mango before sealing it, however, and after a few days on display, it began to show signs of rot. The revolutionary committee of the factory retrieved the rotting mango, peeled it, then boiled the flesh in a huge pot of water. Mao again was greatly
asciilifeform: 'Mao gave the mangoes to Wang Dongxing, who divided them up, distributing one mango each to a number of leading factories in Beijing, including Beijing Textile Factory, where I was then living. The workers at the factory held a huge ceremony, rich in the recitation of Mao’s words, to welcome the arrival of the mango, then sealed the fruit in wax, hoping to preserve it for posterity. The mangoes became sacred relics, objects of vene
asciilifeform: i've never actually met an adult who had the experience and wasn't a traumatic wreck. ☟︎
asciilifeform: gotta end up in right place, right time, be reasonably young, etc.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-03#1475866 << installing a wholly new mental operating system ~cannot~ be a 'rational' decision, nor is it really a decision as such, more of a 'cock action' that is done ~to~ somebody. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-04-10 15:55 asciilifeform: thinking folks have chronic problems with forming spartan 'testudo'
a111: Logged on 2016-04-10 15:54 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and yes, it goes back to the 'blind loyalty' thread
asciilifeform: nor is effective army a thing if he gets to cut.
asciilifeform: nor is 19 y.o. ru boi going to personally cut apart 'paint the snow piles white and grass green' from 'effective army'
mircea_popescu: fine, but this practical approach does not resolve the discussed 19yo's problem any ; it's not practical to enforce separation between idiocy and sense on all the edges, nor will it ever be.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you may have mistook the address, the 'let's pray to goddess of reason' folk are in the kako house
asciilifeform: in what sense is, say, mircea_popescu's terrarium, where six gurls spin on cock like a peculiarly inverted set of propellers of 6-engined junkers, not a 'cult of solid'.
mircea_popescu: what the everliving shit.
mircea_popescu: your notion that "gods" could be just a label, and then you promote "science" to "god-dom" and everythig will be ok because "it's not really a god" is outright endearing.
asciilifeform: i never subscribed to 'cults' as being intrinsically wrong. they are only wrong when their gods don't actually exist.
mircea_popescu: so yes of fucking course it creeps in, i can't be arsed to police the entire edge of the fucking world.
mircea_popescu: how do you at this point distinguish this encounter from you know, joining a cult ?
mircea_popescu: and even the movie poster is wrong.
mircea_popescu: hey check that out, you weren't even holding the knife correctly...
mircea_popescu: and there's a lot to read up on...
mircea_popescu: part and parcel of this being, you discover you're actually kinda dumb...
mircea_popescu: and you meet this guy, who's pretty fascinating.
mircea_popescu: let's for the sake of argument examine this.
asciilifeform: i could even see an argument that 'screaming - you build a force field wall against, subtle - worms its way in' but mircea_popescu isn't sitting there with cheap beer watching industria argentina filmz, is he now.
mircea_popescu: no. thats the crazy thing. you think, at first, that it does.
asciilifeform: hey it beats the screamingly-idiotic
mircea_popescu: this is the place i live in.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i witnessed folk actually trying it at the range !
shinohai: Got to put solder on top of the capacitors to ensure they stay put
asciilifeform: even supposing the iron were...
asciilifeform: it is a great multilayered gag - what is even there to solder on component-side of pc mobo.
mircea_popescu: http://losandespass.com.ar/files/image/16/04/thumbs/image5702793fa96f03.30026266.JPG < there we go
shinohai: I forgot, I have had it in my ridiculous stock photo collection for some time.
asciilifeform: where did this gem come from shinohai ??
shinohai: Possibly like this girl helping asciilifeform solder? http://btcinfo.sdf.org/uploads/solderingiron.jpg ☟︎
asciilifeform: prolly theatrical rifle made of plastic.
mircea_popescu: there's this lively "industria argentina" making shitty movies, and you know, it's so obviously retard kid copying it hurts
mircea_popescu: im sorry now i didn't take the pic of this movie ad
asciilifeform: because think, how heavy a fishing pole !
asciilifeform: i always liked this example
asciilifeform: 'take the rifle fishing' aha.
mircea_popescu: obviously, a certain lassitude of thought is required to think properly. but nowhere is it said that if you shit in toilet, you must also bathe in toilet, eat from toilet...
mircea_popescu: it's a wonderful thing, i don't rightly understand it either, but they're terrible at it.
mircea_popescu: well, the problem with getting the schwartzes together is that they're traditionally VERY indisciplined.
asciilifeform: but no, it is not profession, nobody has ever been paid ~to do it~, any more than invention is profession.
mircea_popescu: but, like music, or love or whatever the fuck, it's a complete package, with motivation falling within it not without it.
mircea_popescu: it can be what you do, if you choose to do it. it can be what you "are", if you care to think in those terms.
asciilifeform: all i care is to get the schwartzes together so they can burn the world.