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pete_dushenski: speaking of which, anyone ever tried to send full 'account balance' from trb node when it was clearly a bullshit number ?
pete_dushenski: trinque: leave it to me to show you how badly your beautiful toys are broken
a111: Logged on 2016-06-03 21:52 mod6: damnit, tbot is taken
pete_dushenski: danielpbarron: colour me impressed at the depth of your twatter pull
trinque: and now I learn that the custom search api doesn't do site:
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-01#1474350 << in case you missed this, dan, it worked!!1 ☝︎
pete_dushenski: j. trudeau as media darling has been well established since before i was born
a111: Logged on 2016-06-01 21:22 BingoBoingo: ;;later tell pete_dushenski http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=4521
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-01#1474946 << this is famous and not unlike trump's experience on the apprentice. ☝︎
pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/07/the-follow-your-heart-myth/ << quoted him here too. smart fellow, particularly on chinese historical happenings and interpretations, evidently.
pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/21/statelessness-of-fearlessness/#footnote_0_4063 << there it is
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-03#1476047 << I thought you wrote the post with them as the heroes? ☝︎
mod6: damnit, tbot is taken ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-03 16:42 asciilifeform: i've never actually met an adult who had the experience and wasn't a traumatic wreck.
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-03#1475877 << Go to Florida, visit the dope recoverers meetings there. Many adults long reprogrammed. ☝︎
Framedragger: vc: hey better slower than fast and shitty :)
Framedragger: yeah, hard to argue with that
asciilifeform: including the horse it rode in on.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: whole thing is ~very~ overdue for the cleansing fires.
Framedragger: (re. pkcs#11, because e.g. that substring-attack is only meant to be against symmetric keys stored in that shitformat, but since e.g. ECDSA keypair's secret logarithm "is just stored as 32-byte scalar value [it's not meant to be stored that way there, but is, because reasons], [...] extract-key-from-key can be used to successively reveal chunks of that scalar value.") ☟︎
vc: it's going terribly but hopefully things should be ironed out soon and the service will launch ☟︎
Framedragger: ohey vc how's romania treating you then
Framedragger: but look it's secure because when it's deriving new secret keys from another secret key it has this majestic security constraint: "If the original key used in this process is sensitive, then the derived key must also be sensitive for the derivation to succeed."
asciilifeform: seems as if it were tailor-made for crapping out the kind of keys that have been appearing in phuctor.
Framedragger: maybe you can run cellular automata on that thing, with those useless APIs
asciilifeform: 'Extract-key-from-key is defined in section 6.27.7 of PKCS#11 standard version 2.30. It may as well have been renamed “extract-substring” as the analog of standard operation on strings. This derivation scheme creates a new key by taking a contiguous sequence of bits at desired offset and length from an existing key.' << holy FUCK
Framedragger: https://randomoracle.wordpress.com/2015/08/13/safenet-hsm-key-extraction-vulnerability-part-i/ tl;dr "PKCS#11 security = lol"
asciilifeform: spandrell: this is where the cultured men resist the rot.
asciilifeform: spandrell: you are encouraged to return with pgp key.
spandrell: pleasure talking to you
spandrell: but they put up with it in order to beat the crap out of china
spandrell: chinese dun wanna live with niggers too
asciilifeform: (which includes, to jp fella, you an' me)
spandrell: i'm the linguist, you dont play semantics with me
asciilifeform: any more than 'life in jp'
spandrell: what does that say
asciilifeform: just that there is NO such thing as 'life in russia'
spandrell: japanese dont emigrate, most certainly not to russia ☟︎
spandrell: russians emigrate, some even to japan
spandrell: i mean you're trying to argue that life in russia is good
asciilifeform: even 'pay of engineer' is VERY tricky question.
asciilifeform: who the hell cares what is 'average pay of 35 yo'
spandrell: an average salary for a 35 year old man in tokyo would be USD50k year
asciilifeform: which is why i'm stuck in this godforsaken shithole
spandrell: the same job in tokyo
asciilifeform: equivalent to what ?
spandrell: how much is the equivalent moscow wage?
asciilifeform: or two in buenos aires, iirc
spandrell: no way it costs more than 2000 unless you're in an absurdly fancy place
spandrell: most people in tokyo live in 2 story houses in the suburbs ☟︎
spandrell: well in tokyo it can go for 1200-2000
asciilifeform: jp =~ tokyo in my mind.
asciilifeform: where nobody wants to live.
spandrell: provincial town though, not tokyo
asciilifeform: how much does the robo-bathtub flat go for in usd ?
spandrell: prices are pretty cheap these days
asciilifeform: (unless, as often the case, yer money is tied to geography)
spandrell: wages arent that high
asciilifeform: 'middle class' in jp will buy solid gold toilet in, e.g., usa.
spandrell: if russia were rich i'd be living there myself; who the hell wants to stand progressive bullshit if we could avoid it
asciilifeform would like to know this also
trinque: what's the rent on a place with the bathtub robot
asciilifeform: and, what, when they want to breed, their room undergoes mitosis ?
asciilifeform: next to toilet curtain ?
spandrell_: where she's supposed to be
asciilifeform: in typical american expat's - no.
spandrell_: it connects to the kitchen
spandrell_: it has a mike too so you can call your wife from the bathtub to ask for a beer
spandrell_: set the temperature
asciilifeform: spandrell_: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/thumb/7/7d/%D0%9A%D0%B8%D0%BF%D1%8F%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA.JPG/640px-%D0%9A%D0%B8%D0%BF%D1%8F%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA.JPG << them.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ie, the tea maker ?!
mircea_popescu: except they're arabs in exactly the sense reddit's populated by computer experts.
mircea_popescu: which, incidentally, i met aplenty in the arab lands. and they ~match spandrell_ 's ideas of "arab"
asciilifeform: spandrell_: last i heard jp flats have under-counter heaters and many folks still warm tub with electric submersion thing.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile irl, islam is about him dieing with a fucking explosive towel wrapped around his head, as a 37 yo virgin.
spandrell_: hot water? what are you talking about
asciilifeform: yet somehow 'jp is the fyoooootooor' and 'ru sux'
mircea_popescu: https://bloodyshovel.wordpress.com/2015/12/30/men-doing-their-own-thing/#comment-7539 << i so much love little gems like these.
spandrell_: got a ukrainian pal which is fond of sending me pictures of the russian countryside
asciilifeform: y'know, typical ru fella has hot water in his flat
mircea_popescu: hahaha this is a rather... distant view.
spandrell_: such that brain drain happens
asciilifeform: china ate the fish.
spandrell_: oh come on, china is resisting too
asciilifeform: spandrell_: it is the ONE civilized (in whatever sense) country that is resisting.
asciilifeform: spandrell_: why, you're one of the 3 blokes who run reactors, and it'll be instantly obvious which one ?
spandrell_: but japan is completely awesome and i didnt see the point
spandrell_: got a coworker who had a kid too and stayed
spandrell_: i mean it's not that bad
mircea_popescu: they ate too much massachussetts ?
asciilifeform: ate usa, now 'enjoys' the heavy metals.
mircea_popescu: jesus the great empire china built for itself.
spandrell_: babies get kidnapped all the time
spandrell_: didnt want to raise kids there
spandrell_: they'd like to but they're chickens like that
mircea_popescu: omfg fancy this, variance! within our very cult
spandrell_: at least chinese men wont try to kill you
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actually i prefer the chinese chix.
spandrell_: chinese women are easier than arab women
asciilifeform: same thing that keeps spandrell_ from moving to, say, china.