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asciilifeform: 'Central to Mead's rescue project are a series of discoveries inconsistent with the prevailing conceptions of quantum mechanics. One was the laser. As late as 1956, Bohr and Von Neumann, the paragons of quantum theory, arrived at the Columbia laboratories of Charles Townes, who was in the process of describing his invention. With the transistor, the laser is one of the most important inventions of the twentieth century. Designed into
asciilifeform: ;;later tell jurov i recently dug up your oldie, http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-December/000186.html , and had a thought: did we ever investigate why, e.g., 0.8+, doesn't leak ?
asciilifeform: what might those be ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: there's much better solutions to this problem.
asciilifeform: that matters to breaking through a problem.
asciilifeform: it isn't the 5 minutes, but 'how far you can push the tachometer arrow in the absolute'
mircea_popescu: not that they're not getting enough done in 5 minutes.
mircea_popescu: and the principal problem of exceptional people is that they have trouble keeping balance.
asciilifeform: elementarily true.
asciilifeform: we had this thread also.
mircea_popescu: let's put it this way : the most stimulants can do for you is stimulate ; but on the long term they still debalance.
a111: Logged on 2014-08-25 03:08 asciilifeform: busy as a bee << funny that they show an idiot sow scrubbing, and not, e.g, paul erdos crapping out theorems
asciilifeform: see thread, http://btcbase.org/log/2014-08-25#808005 ☝︎
asciilifeform not mega-expert on dopes but is aware that certain types bring about excitability and amplify existing inclinations; others - torpor, lethargy, and a sort of living death
mircea_popescu: there also isn't such a thing.
asciilifeform: observe how nobody's about to legalize the performance dopes. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: myeah, in that sense i guess.
asciilifeform: seems to go pretty well with the 'dope'em up to reduce barn repair cost' program
mircea_popescu: and then they want to legalize pot. worst fucking idea.
mircea_popescu: and finance sprawling suspended gardens of the future where ecofeminist tribes will raise the blabla.
mircea_popescu: if it weren't for trilema, people'd still derp about how bitcoin is here to save the geeks and the poor.
mircea_popescu: hence all the vomit about imaginary links between "cypherpunks" and bitcoin. and so on.
mircea_popescu: people have this capacity to imagine what's going on in their head is most important, and everything happening outside a sort of minor companion point.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'm sure there were people in america who believed the spanish showing up to be a good thing.
asciilifeform: i was referring to the 'we are small and weak and please don't rape us gnomecoin folk' types.
asciilifeform: everything starts somewhere. but as observer i am more interested in whether it has wheels to begin with.
mircea_popescu: it could also simply be "we have to start somewhere"
asciilifeform: rather than on account of mechanism.
asciilifeform: they gave distinct impression of labouring under a notion that 'our thing will be different because we can keep the Bad People out by being Modest'
mircea_popescu: at least that's how i saw it ; "i ~~~just want to~~~ work on these technical problems, and will ignore/hallucinate/otherwise cope with the political implications"
asciilifeform: the folks with the 'modest' coins always rubbed me wrong
mircea_popescu: technically i suppose the word would be emotional debt.
mircea_popescu: it's one of those "i'll be a man and everything else will stay as it was when i was a child".
asciilifeform: married to a broken-down husk of a thing.
mircea_popescu: well... mno ; they're not bad people, just, married to a context.
asciilifeform: it means, as i understand, 'this dun work but WE KNOW HOW TO FIX!111111 and will fix before anyone notices!11'
asciilifeform: american business folk have a term, 'technical debt', for this kind of horror
mircea_popescu: funkenstein was doing something or the other (even more modestly) with some other coin, wood-something.
asciilifeform: or what that somebody else
mircea_popescu: not really. main dev was in #b-a, invited twice to argue his thing, declined twice to do so.
asciilifeform: i could've sworn we had a monero thread
mircea_popescu: and the "punishes adultery and encourages marriage" thing - exactly the same.
asciilifeform: and the proponents - in denial.
asciilifeform: the 'bitcoin but no public record of movement' thing is theoretically appealing but the math was defective.
mircea_popescu: technology that works by itself and solves their problems, that sorta stuff.
mircea_popescu: they're the same people who think islam means they get a nice wife courtesy of allah, just like that.
mircea_popescu: it's not clear it's heresy in any sense ; but the core of web-shannonizers is always the same.
asciilifeform: had nfi it is still a thing.
asciilifeform: i thought monero was an ancient heresy
mircea_popescu: it's like the derps got kicked out of bitcoin, seamlessly moved to whatever.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the best part of that article is random derp frothing about how "monero'd have made it impossible for egypt to be a shithole"
asciilifeform: 'lose the other army!'
mircea_popescu: well, pick different abstractions i guess, because the only response stavka has for "we don't have adequate tools" is coming down a gun barrel.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my contention is not that it is impossible to write proggy that behaves sanely under unix when catches SIGABRT or whatnot, but that the effort required to do so and the verbosity of the resulting code is beyond most folk.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://themerkle.com/egyptian-dentist-apprehended-in-bitcoin-sting-operation-in-cairo << qntra ?
mircea_popescu: this isn't the case ; and that it isn't the case is proof archsufficient it knows EXACTLY what's what and OPTS to not do what i tell it to.
asciilifeform: see again the mempool example.
mircea_popescu: if it dun feel like doing what you want, "it has nfi" ; otherwise, if there's a virus or something, it knows them like its own tits.
mircea_popescu: it's bullshit. of course the machine has fi. just... it likes to ambiguously pretend it does or doesn't, like a lazy bitch.
asciilifeform: where, e.g., bignums dun exist, only big puddles of ??? that the machine has nfi re the purpose of, etc
asciilifeform: the basic plague of c machine is that forces computation into semantic soup.
asciilifeform: was always turd.
asciilifeform: iirc ff is a single threaded turd even.
mircea_popescu: try the experiment : open temp-mail.org in a browser let it sit for a day, then profile it.
mircea_popescu: nothing can be more expensive than this "oops sorry firefox got lost in bootstrap.js".
mircea_popescu: i'm willing to bet it isn't,.
asciilifeform: btw ada forces pointers to obey frame, interestingly. it is expensive.
mircea_popescu: DONT LOOK AT ME! I'm not the one who came up with that bright idea.
mircea_popescu: this is a superclass of that.
asciilifeform: do you recall my attempt at forcing trb to flush its mempool?
mircea_popescu: you didn't wipe the program scope ; you wiped the frame in question.
asciilifeform: but in this case mircea_popescu wants proggy to carry on
asciilifeform: this 'die now' business works for sigkill because it is quite obvious to os what to do to clean wholly dead process.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you can't do this on c machine, because it has, e.g., a heap also
mircea_popescu: "every stack frame can at any time and for no reason return ; handle this."
asciilifeform: the result is ~certain to be barf.
mircea_popescu: that may be, but there's still absolutely no reason it can't IMMEDIATELY RETURN WHATEVER CURRENT PROCEDURE ITS IN
mircea_popescu: drop them all.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what do you do with the progressing system calls?
mircea_popescu: what, forcing program writer whores to procedurize sanely is too onerous ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, what's the big fucking whoop. when caught sigabort, return(6) or w/e.
mircea_popescu: ftr, since "micro atx", no, not the power switch.
asciilifeform: where there is no such thing as clean aborts even if author wanted this.
mircea_popescu: no. i do not want to kill the program. i want to force it to drop what it's doing and pay attention.
mircea_popescu: i want what used to be signal 6, ABRT ; indicating to the receiving item to immediately drop whatever subroutine is doing and continue above.
asciilifeform: devil has a head on his shoulders, to an extent.
mircea_popescu: in fairness, it's the optimal use for "his idea" such as it was.
asciilifeform: which he took.
asciilifeform: fella wasn't quite certain what he wanted, and soon after the publication, devil approached him with bargain. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: sometimes i wonder if i'm the only guy who ever had one blog.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo will be stimulated to learn that there is some sort of comic book convention going in washington and i saw 'land whales' last night in a train, headed from it to dinner
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i've seen them, they simply aren't to be met with regularly anywhere i've been
BingoBoingo thought asciilifeform had not seen nor believed in them. Or were they in Chiraq the other week?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that part's not in any doubt.
asciilifeform: having seen in real life the circa freaks in question, i find it plain as daylight that they cannot reach own arse
BingoBoingo: Who knows how many fat people were helped in this version of legend because they moved up from not wiping at all thanks to stick discovery!
mircea_popescu: i honestly believe the item exists because you were bored one day ; and people couldn't distinguish between "social media signal" and actual need.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> but that's nothing ; the case is still fresh in my mind when BingoBoingo made up some stupid shit about how a guy was so fat he used a stick to wipe his ass ; and other perverse defecation tales - which then became the ACCEPTED STANDARD of "what fat people do" according to "everyone" on social media. << ty, but that is credit for TOO much
asciilifeform: the sumo men are well documented to use apprentice fighters as arse wipers.
mircea_popescu: but that aside, as many people use a stick to wipe their own ass as died of fan-mediated asphyxia.