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ben_vulpes: show up and start in with
the unfounded ideas.
ben_vulpes: the rest have never had
the autonomy over any scope
to know how much better life is under a good master.
shinohai: paging BingoBoingo ... he has
to write
this one.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: well, yeah, but very progressive and looking for a black man
to cook for.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform zee germanz had a small unit built at some point.
then
they
tore it down because usg lobby for fucking
them over ; ended up paying ~half a dollar per kW produced in "dismantling" costs.
mircea_popescu: usually
the
traincar-boxed gensets are 1500-2000-2500 kw sorta deals.
mircea_popescu: strangely enough, small nuclear plants are actually a lot safer
than
the large ones also.
mircea_popescu: by
the
time you're
talking
traincar sized gensets, you're prolly better off building a small nuclear plant anyway.
mircea_popescu: if you're about
to drop 1mn on a piece of property,
the notion
that you wouldn't drop a few
tens of k's on actually having power for it is outright idiotic.
mircea_popescu: these, it should be pointed out, are not
THAT expensive. which is
the important item here.
mircea_popescu: anyway, off
top of head 400 kw generator eats ~28.5 gal/hr full load and ~15 half load ; 250 kw eats 18 and about 10. it degrades from
there.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you recall at no point "just a gas generator" was contemplated.
that + battery bank + electronics = win.
mircea_popescu: no point in solving half-problems, especially when
the shit's not even expensive.
mircea_popescu: eh, you want
the whole
thing. converter ; battery and generator.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes well...
they run ~50% efficiency, so you can get consumption from power rating pretty much. so you should expect about 1galon/hour drawn for every ~16kW of installed power. roughly speaking.
mircea_popescu: gillette also makes up
to iirc 1mw units. but really, from both a redundancy and efficiency pov it's better
to buy multiple smaller ones.
mircea_popescu: (re above link : a buried gpl
tank and a gpl/lp/ng generator possibly much better solution
than gasoline powered. unless you actually intend
to build a gasoline
tank, which is a permit nightmare usually.)
davout: ben_vulpes: one could also say
tmsr is reinventing microservices
mircea_popescu: he's affecting
that he can't hear docker, so we don't realise he sleeps with a stuffed bear with a penis
that reads docker
davout: ben_vulpes: who/what
triggered who/what?
davout: aha, so in other words
tmsr is making its own docker
mircea_popescu: davout not at worker level. you do
that at administrative level.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes note
that
there's a lot of space between 100kw and 1mw.
mircea_popescu: davout because he's not supposed
to do emulation on
the worker. if your kernel runs javascript, you expose reals. if your kernel runs balanced
ternary, you exposed balanced
ternary.
ben_vulpes: what is really at issue here is one's connectivity
to
the bitcoin network. so yes, power. also, shortwave.
ben_vulpes: either provision for your "megawatt standard lifestyle" or...scramble around unplugging
things
to extend
the
tiny window before your node goes offline completely.
mircea_popescu: yeah but you want
the bridge
to be wide enough. 1kw is not practically useful - inductive charge for an average ac unit for instance easily beats 5kw
☟︎ ben_vulpes: either you can depend on
the mains or you can't. and
they're not getting better in NA.
ben_vulpes: the ups is just supposed
to be a bridge
to
the gennie.
mircea_popescu: (doesn't have
to come with
the
trailer, of course. you'll need a battery rack about
the same size and a serious converter, ie, 100kW as opposed
to 1050kW)
ben_vulpes: 'power supply'
to me means i dial a voltage and it holds it
to a hundredth of a volt.
mircea_popescu: but if it cycles from -4
to +4 V it's noisier
than grid power.
mircea_popescu: reading
the specs of
that ds1500b-rm opti-ups
thing... output voltage regulation +/- 2% ?! srsly,
that noisy ?
ben_vulpes: p much just
the value of
the
tokens neh
ben_vulpes: "what is
the value of owning source code for a
token system
that everyone else must have a copy of in order
to play?"
ben_vulpes: yeah,
that's not
terrifically well
thought-out.
mircea_popescu: will also have
the great benefit of c) clip his wings a shade.
mircea_popescu: alternatively you could explain
to your boss
that a) he's not
terribly informed, and if he's interested in
this sort of
thing b) really should make gpg id and show up here with his q's.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: yeah i mean.. yeah. it's almost as if: if bitcoin valuation of ip returns > 0,
then bitcoin failed in
terms of one of its design principles, or something
a111: Logged on 2016-06-10 16:09 asciilifeform: can someone
tell me ?
mircea_popescu: ftr : not only it's impossible
to have an "ip valuation of bitcoin", but moreover
the bitcoin valuation of ip returns 0.
trinque: asciilifeform: maybe you can find
the
thread for Framedragger regarding whether certain
things (bitcoin, V) can have "valuation"
a111: Logged on 2016-06-10 14:21 mod6: speaking of which, i
think I'm going
to need
to rework
this whole antecedent
thing. while building it, it seemed
to make sense
to me, but now, looking at it
through a different set of eyes, it seems unintuitive at best, out right backwards at worst.
Framedragger: i detest
these glossy landing page designs.
then again, maybe a stability point has been reached on
the web, in
the sense of content-less websites now employing a content-less form
Framedragger: yeah it's probably bull; interesting
to
think in
terms of IP
though, whether
there's a valuation methodology possible
Framedragger: one of potential clients: scotcoin (as in chief operators - haven't looked yet if
that even makes sense)
trinque: sounds like he read an article on blockchain
teckmology
trinque: Framedragger: aside from
the market cap of
the
thing?