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mircea_popescu: well, work on your own
time. but work
the way we're going not orthogonally.
mircea_popescu: there is exactly ONE rsa format, for all
time, past as well as future, and it goes like
this : N, e, comment.
mircea_popescu: not by centering on
the non-rsa formats and adding
tms on
the side.
mircea_popescu: illustrate
them by storing rsa in
the rsa format and adding
the illustration on
the side
mircea_popescu: i do not have use for as much as a rotten end of a
thread from usg. you follow
this concept ?
mircea_popescu: different packagings of
THIS SAME OBJECT are not
to be entertained. we control
ther fucking horizontal, not "gpg" or "opensshit".
mircea_popescu: there ARE NOT
two classes of object. rsa is
the class of object.
mircea_popescu: if you store as a csv, add more fields. if you store in any other format, a mechanical equivalent for "add more fields" exists. what is
the problem ?
mircea_popescu: it is
the height of ridiculous for you
to
tell me
that "my program is so fucking stupid if it has
to handle
two items it can only pick one and pretend
the other doesn't exist". you understand
this ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so write it a convertor. it's strategically stupid
to make "a new gadget".
mircea_popescu: phuctor gotta move
to
tmsr format not
teh other way round. give
the guy a moment,
Framedragger: asciilifeform: do you
think it's a sensible idea
to
try and convert ssh public keys into rfc4880, and
then submit
them
to phuctor (possibly in bulk)? or is
that something i should leave
to you?
mircea_popescu: now, man beset with lots of
typhus may end up
thinking so, "they're all
the same", etc. but
this is not exactly
thinking in
the proper sense, more like emotional lashing out.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
that's basically saying "can't get a proper meal assembled without getting a bacteria in
there. if it's clean it's an industrial product nobody wants
to eat, if it's made properly, well!".
this is
true, but also irrelevant,
the bacteria are everywhere but
they aren't specifically dedicated
to a cause
through being bacteria.
they're not
typhus specifically.
mircea_popescu: (with any luck, slave's kid could become knave, ie, 4th rank in
the army, below yeoman, squire and knights in
that order.)
mircea_popescu: as late empire
turned
to medieval
times, colonus -> peasantry and foederatus -> yeomanry.
mircea_popescu: the barbarian is
the basis of
the european minor nobility.
mircea_popescu: the roman "citizen" is
the basis of
the european slave class.
mircea_popescu: check out
the inept agitprop bullshit. NOBODY wants
to be "a spook", and for most people, including cashiers and waitresses,
this move isn't an upgrade.
mircea_popescu: " All hackers aspire
to an upgrade
to spook." <<< ahahaha. "all barbarian lords aspire
to colonus status". fucking bs. foederati had superior legal status
to "colonus servusque". much like black dudes in
the us have superior status
to white office drones.
Framedragger still hasn't read schild's ladder. prolly need accompanying graph
theory
textbook
mircea_popescu: plus you get some delicious canned soup out of
the deal.
mircea_popescu: you want
to buy a "genre fiction" novel, buy fifty cans of campbell soup and read
the labels in succession. same shit.
mircea_popescu: psa : genre fiction is not fiction, it's
those merchandise
tags and labels
that ran long for
the space.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform because you people have ~no
taste and read shit spread on paper.
mircea_popescu: no wonder he's being promoted. by now,
the moment i see lamestream going "X is a Y"
the ~only
thing i
think about is
that if Y = bitcoin,
they'd be saying x=gavin.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: gotcha. i have
thing which converts ssh pubkey format
to e,N,IP. i'll probably have a
thing which generates rfc4880 (inserting ip address as comment field, say) from e,N,IP.
thanks!
mircea_popescu: guy has a solid point.
there's nothing new in
this world except for hte history you didn't know etc.
shinohai: so10K causes
the BitGold pyramid
to collapse under weight.
mircea_popescu: (you can write
two pages of cannonical implementation in lisp even if your actual implementation
that you use is in py/c/whatever. make it a sort of official lingua franca of coding, is my idea.)
Framedragger: asciilifeform: ah wait lol: i'd be parsing ssh rsa keys, not pgp keys - different format -
though also base64 etc. i'll check!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform an idea here would be
to make a soft commitment
to publish all cannonical code in lisp implementations.
mircea_popescu: and a blog is a valuable and important asset for
the adult man.
mircea_popescu: yeah, if you get imagemagik installed (lol!)
there's a bunch of interesting visual stuff. quick way
to jumpstart a blog, socialmedia exists ~out of
this.
Framedragger: i guess right now i'm more curious
to see general statistics /
trends, e.g. distribution of ssh server versions per given geo region / AS etc., not
that it may be
too useful, but just genuinely curious
mircea_popescu: generally,
the fiat of
the fiat state must be leached away from its crippled hands. very generally. what way one goes
to accomplish
this... well,
that's why
the one is one.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: yeah not
the worst idea, i
too
think
there may be not much of a market
there
though, but who knows.. good
to know, if i ever come
to consider b2b plans more seriously
mircea_popescu: Framedragger
there's also nothing wrong with
trying
to package it for b2b and beat in
the marketplace
those derps mentioned in
the log days ago. i don't personally
think
there's a market
there, but maybe i'm missing a crease.
teh republic'd support you in any case.
mircea_popescu: it is kind of a big deal. asciilifeform
there must be a standard.
this "submit key"
thing doesn't work if for instance he's
trying
to dump 2mn static html pages into a website.
Framedragger: not a big deal at all
tho of course, useful for laters and for future exploitations and analysis infrastructure
though
Framedragger: asciilifeform: kk,
thanks, a script (or some description) would be useful!
Framedragger: the latter would be quite useful - i may spin up some simple analysis
thingie which shows info for
those ssh keys, and it'd be nice
to be able
to link
to corresponding phuctor entries
Framedragger: for example say i have some public key available. is
there a way for me
to derive phuctor's permalink for
that key (acknowledging
that
the permalink may not be active yet, i.e. phuctor does not even know of
the pubkey etc) ?
Framedragger: asciilifeform: is
there a 'stable' algorithm / spec for deriving phuctor's hash / permalink? you'd mentioned before
that it "includes
the entire key - names, emails, ~all~ subkeys."
thestringpuller: i preserved
the chain, and
the bitcoind
that built it. so what i'll do is get another disk,
try
to start from scratch with
that build, and see if it wedges at
the same place.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-16 02:17
thestringpuller: i built with stator
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "but for
the grace of god
there goes i" or how did
that quote go.
mircea_popescu: phf it's very hard
to differentiate oneself when oneself has nothing
to offer. forced mistake, what else
to do other
than.
phf: which i always
thought is a pretty poor rhetoric
tactic ever since i encountered it in like 6th grade