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mircea_popescu: another case : fambly does poorly economically, borrows, can't repay. lender goes : either you produce crops or human fat, but you'll produce. so they do. etc.
mircea_popescu: i dunno that any fingers were chopped.
mircea_popescu: which is exactly like "unjust enrichment" case in common law. "i gave youy a broken woman turns out she wasn't broken you owe me"
asciilifeform: nothing about finger-choppings in there tho!
mircea_popescu: 1. woman marries, has no children. this is almost always man's fault, but almost nowhere is this known. 2. woman divorces, marries new man, and has children. old man kidnaps child, wants payment for woman.
mircea_popescu: 1. young man is worth X according to young woman, sqrt(X) according to woman's father. 2. man "kidnaps" woman, proving that he's actually worth sqrt(x)+k, where k is the safety margin the father allowed. 3. young couple needs money, and the old faggot owes.
asciilifeform: if everybody knows the fella just wanted a bride, why would father pay ransom
mircea_popescu: let's take some cases.
asciilifeform: how does the ransom work tho
mircea_popescu: there's scarcely any other stable solution possible to all this than "kidnapping"
mircea_popescu: which is what it mostly is. gotta somehow resolve the joint problems of 1. cunt and money flows need to be matched ; 2. age and money flows need to be matched ; 3. cunt flow and age must be matched.
asciilifeform: as seen in pretty much 100% of sufficiently wild untouched orc tribe
mircea_popescu: anyway, there's been ~100 cases of "kidnapping" reported in buenos aires last year alone. worth maybe about 1mn all together.
asciilifeform: patience!1111 they'll undrop!
mircea_popescu: awww! but ethereum continues to drop ? i thought the usg.mit.mongoloid party had "infinite funds"! !!!
mircea_popescu: moreover, where wife has the authority to settle estates and dispose of chattels.
mircea_popescu: (for a very good reason : you need someone to get the money together)
asciilifeform: now account for the males ?
a111: Logged on 2016-06-17 17:23 mircea_popescu: and the fucking examples are from colombia and whatnot. tell you what, newspapers here were full of some woman who ran a parillada (cheaapo restaurant) who had her kid kidnapped which the newspapers related to her "flashing lots of money" and "publicly declaring she's making asd much as 10-15k pesos a month" (about $800)
asciilifeform: so what's a toyota kidnapping look like.
asciilifeform: prolly any is too much
mircea_popescu: you catastrophically misunderstand. in no small part because you spend too much time reading idiots.
mircea_popescu: similarly to how "programmers" of docker and javascript are pissants not worth the mention.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you read an article about "vehicles" that strictly discussed am i would say the AUTHOR is a pissant not worth the mention. which is what i;m saying here also.
asciilifeform: yeah it looks somewhat like the 'nsa codename generator' from a few yrs back
asciilifeform: "100 of instances worth 30mn a year" << is also, iirc, about same as the market of aston-martin. will say that a-m is also insignificant pissant unworthy of mention ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i started to say how : they miss any sort of comprehension of anything. vaguely alluding to shit they read on reddit dun count for journalism.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-17 17:19 fromphuctor: So pasting in a bare modulus would be the easiest, and GPG and SSH would just be fancyness to make the website easy to use
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-17#1484076 << see the logs, this is covered, we even made a new tmsr standard for rsa. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's gunk from end to end, i'd rather "read" the excrement found in a bona fide chicken coop.
phf: trinque: sure, put 104.131.72.249 and i have another ip which i need to fish out later
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: alludes to a largely undocumented insurance chumpatron of unknown size, hence link.
trinque: phf: yeah I mean, WONT STOP HITLER MITM, but I'd prefer putting your IP in the firewall and pg_hba
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, it's a fundamental behaviour at the intersextion of sexuality, property and generational change. so... whatevs.
mircea_popescu: now then : it's a major anthropological tradition, with millions of instances yearly and no dollar value, because the dollar is a meaningless measure of value.
phf: trinque: oh you need to restrict ip?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i meant the insurers
mircea_popescu: traditionally marriage started with kidnapping a woman, much like rome started with borrowed sabines and all flocks of sheep ever started from the neighbour's sheep.
asciilifeform: link back to your site, perhaps
asciilifeform: fromphuctor: in fact, this is recommended practice, say something in in the username string re 'this key generated by ... for ...' or the like.
mircea_popescu: and the fucking examples are from colombia and whatnot. tell you what, newspapers here were full of some woman who ran a parillada (cheaapo restaurant) who had her kid kidnapped which the newspapers related to her "flashing lots of money" and "publicly declaring she's making asd much as 10-15k pesos a month" (about $800) ☟︎
fromphuctor: Or do I have to make up dummy names and email addresses? How does that affect phuctor?
trinque: phf: would you be connecting to the db via btcbase.org ?
fromphuctor: Looks like it's going to take me a while to get up to speed on pgp. Is there even a way to minimally wrap an RSA public key without entering name and info fields?
trinque: http://www.no-fly-list.com/details/Bo_Saluga << what the fuck are threat vectors and aberrant behavior ranges
asciilifeform: (the kind that have fingerprints, usernames, series of moduli that may be shared between multiple keys, etc)
asciilifeform: well no, roughly 95% of the code is related specifically to displaying gpg-format keys.
fromphuctor: So pasting in a bare modulus would be the easiest, and GPG and SSH would just be fancyness to make the website easy to use ☟︎
asciilifeform: correct. but the actual db shuffling and conversion to pretty printed www material, etc. is laborious.
fromphuctor: All it's doing is extracting the rsa modulus before it gets to work, right?
asciilifeform: fromphuctor: this is in the works. (it will take a while, because it makes the thing roughly 2x more complicated)
fromphuctor: Would be nice to paste in SSH keys too, not just PGP.
gribble: Error: We broke The Google!
fromphuctor: I'd rather know what the format is and assemble the bits in linqpad, if anyone has a reference lying around. Can't seem to find it quickly via google.
fromphuctor: Also if one should be weak, I'll skip using that server.
asciilifeform: fromphuctor: contact jurov, he has a tool for this
fromphuctor: This is most idle curiosity on my part, but I think this project is cool.
fromphuctor: x509 certificates for various timestamping servers. All either 2048-bit or 4096-bit, all exponents are 65537.
fromphuctor: I have the moduli and the exponents in hex or base64, but I'm not familiar with GPG.
fromphuctor: I have a bunch of RSA moduli I'd like to test. The phuctor entry page says it requires GPG public keys. How do I format them as GPG keys?
fromphuctor: Hey, thanks.
BingoBoingo: https://archive.is/5t6sX << These fuckers forgot to include Waco in their list too!
asciilifeform: http://www.mmegi.bw/index.php?sid=1&aid=36&dir=2010/January/Monday18 << lulzy piece, re one of the ways moneyz are pried loose from folk who dun belong having any
asciilifeform: as per the last crow.
mircea_popescu: i'm kinda curious how that'll go :D
thestringpuller: Funny. Ethereum was able to recreate the traditional banking system in 1% of the time! With bailouts and everything.
mircea_popescu: undo various things, make it be 1992 all over again.
mircea_popescu: with any luck after he does that he could maybe get a job consulting for the clinton she-slug
asciilifeform: shinohai: dun worry, buterin will turn on time rewinding machine !11111 and unhappen it.
shinohai: dao -34.34 % <<< another 10% since this morning
mircea_popescu: unfortunately for the "greatest country^H^H^H^H^Hgovernment in the world"'s ambitions, the horse keeps turning out lame and slutty.
mircea_popescu: mno, it was ripple v2.0, "usg must have a horse in the race".
mircea_popescu: except these aren't made out of real people, but out of esltards and other civilised shitheads, so they keep falling over.
asciilifeform: i read eth as a standard altcoin scam. 'i'll take your btc, and you can have this magical thing'
mircea_popescu: the point is EXACTLY the same ineptitude of usgism that created the taliban, "russians must have competitor", and then the isis "taliban must have competitor" and so on.
mircea_popescu: today, more like 84 to 16.
asciilifeform: then what was the point ? laundry for coke machine plundered btc ?
mircea_popescu: about 97% to 3% or thereabouts being the split of these two categories, historically.
mircea_popescu: EVERYTHING else you see is mostly fake in the sense of "my webpage can print any numbers i want it to", and less so in the sense "mit will pay so you say shit smells nice"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the "chumps" bought in worth less than 100k.
mircea_popescu: anyway. hopefully they don't get spooked and do as you say. end up paying the market cap out of pocket a dozen times over the next coupla years, one for each consecutive hole.
asciilifeform: i dun get it. chumps bought in, usg (via shill exchanges) collected usd, btc, in return for shitcoin. that is now worth 0. what does usg lose ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, the fiat exchanges are even faker than the bitcoin ones, but still, money IS bleeding out. i can assure you of that much :D
asciilifeform: i doubt they'll pay a cent.
mircea_popescu: so they're actually gonna pay out the whole billion the shitpile is supposedly "market cap" ?
asciilifeform: and it isn't like they had to ~spend~ any
mircea_popescu: anyway. so they're in well over 100 fake mn by now. what's the usg.mit budget for propping up the scamcoin ? any guesses ?
mircea_popescu: in the sense ubuntu is linux and systemd a demon
mircea_popescu: anyway, /me loves how teh usg is spending its crap fiat to try and prop up a crap altcoin.
mircea_popescu: shinohai well... plenty of slack there naimean ?
thestringpuller: anyone making a killing on shorting eth/dao today?
thestringpuller: holy shit this is gold
shinohai: http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/fashion/daily/2016/02/09/09-slack-engineers-win-award.w529.h352.jpg is this why slack sucks?
thestringpuller: 2/2 - I'd be VERY interested to know the identify of anyone coordinating an effort to oppose a hardfork. PM me stephan@slock.it ☟︎
thestringpuller: LOL: 1/2 "Thief" now probably coordinating an effort to oppose the hardfork that would see the DAO token holders getting their ETH back
mircea_popescu: this is vaguely reminiscent of the power rangers sucking themselves off on reddit about how great they were at testing some shitlibrary they wrote.
mircea_popescu: s to realise he wasn't mocking the inept mit shit but actually playing it straight.
mircea_popescu: "Stephan Tual is the Founder and COO of Slock.it. Previously CCO for the Ethereum project, Stephan has three startups under his belt and brings 20 years of enterprise IT experience to the Slock.it project. Before discovering the Blockchain, Stephan held CTO positions at leading data analytics companies in London with clients including VISA Europe and BP." <<< schmuck who wrote a blogpost so fucking dumb, it took me 10 minute
shinohai: I woke up this morning and died laughing when i saw dao "b/c"
mircea_popescu: ah the internets have delivered this friday.