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Framedragger: look i just came back from an awesome mountain hike, can't even move my legs, but have just enough energy to re-use someone else's precious hacky code to test the ssh-rsa db entries
a111: Logged on 2016-06-17 19:08 jurov: whoever wants my tool for converting rsa moduli to phuctor, send him to http://explo.yt/post/2016/05/20/Parsing-OpenSSH-RSA-keys-in-Python
trinque: Framedragger oblivious to any condescending remarks :P << wahahaha
jurov: lol you think the latter is better?
Framedragger: jurov: do you have a script which uses PGPy and generates rfc4880 from e,N, then?
Framedragger oblivious to any condescending remarks :P
jurov: but times have moved on, i see :)
jurov: um.. i thought copying and pasting code is for lazy people
Framedragger: distributed computing on the other end
Framedragger: jurov: irc interface is for the lazy people
jurov: you could have tested it yourself in less time than you typed above
a111: Logged on 2016-05-02 14:24 jurov: if it requires self-signature, then testing ssh keys is out
Framedragger: jurov: are you around and if so did you end up finding a way to make this work?
Framedragger: are you sure your tool will parse an 'artificial' openpgp key generated from public e,N only?
Framedragger: asciilifeform: re openpgp format: wait a sec, doesn'tt the 'packet' (as they are called there it seems) containing user info have to be signed or sth?
Twix: i think my bouncer remembered i joined a while ago
Twix: hi, i'm twix
trinque: hello Twix. who are you?
trinque: $up Twix
trinque: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-russia-idUSKCN0Z30W3 << huh, guess the "moderates" and the "terrorists" don't shoot each other when they mingle
trinque: so the ass-dicking continueth
trinque: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-strike-idUSKCN0Z306L << and lately USG helps Al Qaeda / ISIS to what end? presumably to light a fire all along the southern border of Russia.
trinque: eh I don't care; the US dicked the USSR in the ass whenever it could too
BingoBoingo: What the KGB did to American culture is unforgivable
trinque: hell I'll give Trump this: he's talked about pulling out of NATO and improving the relationship with Russia.
jurov: whoever wants my tool for converting rsa moduli to phuctor, send him to http://explo.yt/post/2016/05/20/Parsing-OpenSSH-RSA-keys-in-Python ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: (notice the rollbacks on her buttocks, also)
mircea_popescu: doing the martyred saint etherea of the dao!
asciilifeform: conan the barbarian ?
asciilifeform: i have nfi what the genuine stupidity looked like.
mircea_popescu: there's no good way to distinguish sheer stupidity from randomness. the usg is ~about this dumb irl.
trinque: heh! who can tell
asciilifeform: i thought this was mighty clear
asciilifeform: like that nsa generator
mircea_popescu: no fucking way this makes any sort of sense.
mircea_popescu: da fuck is this nonsense, 4 significant digit ek rate ? "gait" described in what looks like multiple bytes ?
mircea_popescu: anyone bored enough to enumerate the "auto-surv stats" bs on that no-fly-list.com page ?
mircea_popescu: i dunno, i've not followed closely. maybe someone can produce an item of trump's that's actually actionable in any manner.
asciilifeform: trinque: the last time they elected a fella who actually thought the buttons were connected, they had to shoot him later
mircea_popescu: trinque ~nothing he's said makes any sense in any actual perspective. the man's a walking soundbite.
trinque: I don't think he's a puppet; I think he's the spray-tanned caricature of something better cultures produce
trinque: I see him more like the guy who, guts hanging out after a grenade, tries as he might to stuff them back in.
mircea_popescu: guy is ~a bankrupt tv star, "all his money" stuff is bs. he's poor as a church mouse, all his capital is imagologic.
asciilifeform: (then again it is quite possible that all of 'his' money is denominated in buffettola, and he's entirely compliant, i have nfi)
mircea_popescu: it currently looks like it's going to go the 2nd way.
mircea_popescu: there's a very simple choice, "push buttons connected to nothing in particular in the hopes that time machine activates and it's 1992 all over again" vs "push buttons connected to nothing in particular in the hopes that something burns down".
asciilifeform: trump is no moar electable than perot was, and for same reason - will try to push the buttons that aren't connected to anything, and get belligerent, and has the resources to attempt to do something about it
mircea_popescu: this election's gonna be a total bloodbath.
mircea_popescu: trinque cnn moving on the buttered side.
asciilifeform: utinely publishes breaking changes - note the trouble node.js has had tracking upstream.'
asciilifeform: 'I'd like to ask specifically about Fare's criticism of large jets. Since it's highly unlikely that the Hoon implementation is bug-for-bug compatible with the native markdown parser, is including that parser in a jet an "unprincipled exception" to Urbit's vision of deterministic functional purity? An even better example is the possible future inclusion of a native JS or Lua interpreter... V8 in particular is a massive project that ro
asciilifeform: 'For example, I would love to offer my own children a filtered Internet experience where I owned and controlled the filter. Ideally, that would mean an MITM proxy running on my own cloud server. I would not trust anyone else to MITM me or my children, but I feel quite comfortable MITMing my 8-year-old daughter. So that's another long-term use case.' << also mr mold
asciilifeform: what is arcade token worth outside of arcade ?
asciilifeform: it is difficult to discuss 'it is worth'
mircea_popescu: except there's no 2% here, i would be much surprised if a fiat dollar is worth a turkey cent.
asciilifeform: sorta like that famous (in certain circles) case where u.s. mint 'sold' crates of coins, at face value, and folks bought'em, putting it on a cc with 2% cashback, and loop
mircea_popescu: and which, as an end game, i'm perfectly fine with. who the fuck cares the soviets don't like living in the best countryt in the world. a) i told them to leave and b) if they deserved any better they'd shoot the gestapo.
mircea_popescu: the ~only solution is, obviously, a withdrawal of the usg inside its borders. which has been happening and is accelerating.
mircea_popescu: and this is exactly how soros raped the bank of england, fake convertibilities form circuits.
mircea_popescu: the "convertibility" of 1:1 turkey dollars to fiat dollars is a very expensive proposition.
mircea_popescu: but what's important here is the "turning fake dollars into turkey dolars through market destruction/replacement" mechanism.
asciilifeform: not problem until he picks up the handset and nobody answers
asciilifeform: if his ar latifundista thing goes sideways
asciilifeform: my understanding is that turner is living in a mental 1950s when he thinks he can pick up red phone, united fruit style, and call us marine corps.
mircea_popescu: this allows mp to turkey-ize the fake dollars, by denying a market to the usg agentura.
asciilifeform: ^ not that it was ever a secret, was announced quite clearly on day1
mircea_popescu: ere BOTH turner and popescu have 100 : in the second situation, turner doesn't stand a chance.
mircea_popescu: and to best understand HOW the turkeyization works, consider the case of argentina, wherein exist both an old cuckold by the name turner as well as a young rapist by the name popescu. now, for whatever imponderable cargo cult reasons (see http://trilema.com/2014/la-florida-and-other-places/ for discussion), the local cunts want "dollars". there's a huge difference between situation 1, where turner has 100, and situation 2, wh
asciilifeform: 'We'll announce specifics of a crowdsale soon, so I'm gonna dodge just a little. (Honestly, we're still deciding exactly how to do it). I can say, the idea is to sell a small number of stars and to cap the total number anyone can buy.' << finally the altcoin sc4mz0r motive.
asciilifeform: if yer feeding the monkey regardless, why not have it do tricks.
mircea_popescu: this is mostly turkey-izable dollars, and by the million not by the thousand.
asciilifeform: so where is the cost
mircea_popescu: looky, yarvin's fast food bill is no cost, he'd be eating it off ebt anyway. similarly whatever similar schmuck's credit card expenses to the tune of 5k we discussed recently.
asciilifeform: in urbit's case, usg (in its andreessen horowitz face) is paying to keep a dozen bois fed ('press the clown face for a food pellet') and housed (subsidies to silicon valley land racket.) so about 1/1000th of a google.
mircea_popescu: this is currently, and for as long as it'll last, a black hole in the usg budget to parallel the f-35 airplane-coffeemaker-submarine combo.
mircea_popescu: paying "good" dollars for fake altcoins. to people who aren't americans, or for that matter taxpayers.
asciilifeform: how's that
mircea_popescu: actually most of this is net capital outflows to ~bolivia.
asciilifeform: that's the key here, fiatola is ~= a superconductor.
asciilifeform: they pay ~100% back to landlords.
asciilifeform: not like his boiz are spending turkey dollars in bolivia.
asciilifeform: no moar than my electric co is in the hole. goes in, and mostly back out.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform usg.mit a further 20mn in the hole. an' the volume keeps on growing lolz.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: last i heard (but this was years ago) he had some sweatshop with a buncha college dudes.
mircea_popescu: so nothing changed in two-three years ?
asciilifeform: 'Urbit has a very good profiler (language integration makes up for a lot of elbow grease), and our attempts to squeeze out performance are usually successful. In extremis, anything can be jetted and probably will.' << yarvin
mircea_popescu: wait, urbit has a core team ?
phf: i thought the chinese finally got to me
phf: went pgpdump on it "this is all sigs, what manner of wizardry is this"
trinque: lol, on the pubkey?
phf: took me a while to figure out why my pgp key doesn't decrypt
asciilifeform: (laziness in resource-impoverished environment is adaptive. i could've sworn we did a thread re this...)
asciilifeform: as well they should.
asciilifeform: after that - the roustabouts go home.
asciilifeform: like oil well, lasts for so long as the dinojuice is in the ground at sufficient pressure.
mircea_popescu: o yeah, there'll be plenty of that once the us croaks and the power has to be split up.
asciilifeform: so happens that we have another su about to nova
mircea_popescu: you need supernova, stuff like the soviets falling over, to BRIEFLY get such wonders.
mircea_popescu: think in terms of nuclear processes. "where are the pressures that create elements heavier than iron ?" "not in this star"
asciilifeform: so where are the old-fashioned kidnappings where they take 3 sons and send back the head of one, the ears of other, the nose of 3rd ?